User talk:White Arabian Filly/Archive January 2016

2016

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Responding

Hi White Arabian Filly,

First, let me compliment you on your choice of horses! I myself have a black Arabian filly (well, mare). As I mentioned in an earlier post, this is my first Wikipedia edit so I'm sure I'm not getting it done as well as an experienced Wikipedia-er (Wikipedia-ite? ... or ...?). It's been a frustrating experience.

So far, I've donated several hours adding to the page -- only to have just about every last shred of it deleted en masse. (I reread my earlier material and I agree that some of it may have inadvertently reflected my strong pro-PHN sentiment but that was maybe 10% that could easily have been *edited* out.) A host of relevant information was swept up in that purge.

I was apparently accused of copyright infringement, which is absurd, given that I was typing the material in without the use of anything but what was in my head (and only the most basic elements of it at that). And, no, that doesn't make it original research, just a condensation of the basics of PNH.

I was accused of edit warring or something like that for reverting others' changes. I didn't do that, either -- not even once, let alone three times.

Finally, there is one bland laudatory sentence that's so far been permitted. That is then followed by seven *paragraphs* of assorted unpleasantness.

In short, in its attempt not to be an "advertisement," -- and, thus, deleting almost everything positive -- the page has devolved into mostly a smear piece. And...you probably know this...there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of PNH students who *adore* the program. I am one of them.

So, where's the balance?

Anyway, please do not take this small rant to be directed at you. I sincerely appreciate that you took the time to answer my questions earlier. I see that you've made some modifications, too, although I still haven't quite figured out how to follow who changed what and why. But I have so far found this experience to be nothing but throwing my effort -- based on a decade of serious study of PNH -- down the drain.

JackieLL007 (talk) 17:25, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)I think it's best we all discuss your editing at your talk page, Jackie, there are rules for editing wikipedia and the Five pillars are the starting point; they are the absolute gotta-follow rules, the most relevant of which is neutral point of view and to not violate copyright. Montanabw^(talk) 18:51, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Summerfield Johnston, Jr.

Hello. Thank you for paying attention to Summerfield Johnston, Jr.. Could you please remove the unreferenced info which User:Rickylido added twice? I removed it twice and don't want to do it a third time to stay on the safe side. I left a note on their talkpage, but they ignored it. I think this requires a bold edit, removing the alleged first wife and daughter. If he or you can find a reference for it, that's fine, but I am concerned that this may be a total lie. Better stick to the references.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:12, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Zigzig20s I'll go do it now. I don't know if there's any reference for that but I can look later on Google Books or news. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 21:15, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Also, the references I added only said "Will Johnston", not "Will Lasater (Thornton) Johnston". Could you please trim that as well?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:22, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clarence Scharbauer, Jr.

Hi again. Would you be interested in helping me work on an article about Clarence Scharbauer, Jr., horsebreeder and son of rancher Clarence Scharbauer please? I added a bit about him in his father's "death and legacy" section, and I think he could have his own page. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:24, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Zigzig20s: Sure, I'd help with that. You want to create it, or me? White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 22:26, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think you could start as I am trying to finish a couple of articles right now. You could use the obituary I referenced and perhaps this, and more... Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:31, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, will get right to it. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 22:34, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the layout and added an infobox, categories, etc. Would you please fix the bare URL and in-line the references?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:08, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I ended up in-lining them all except for one which won't load. It's about his father-in-law. Who was he?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:46, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it and added his name, which was Fred Turner, and the horse he owned, which was Tomy Lee. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 02:00, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's a glitch (have a look). Was Fred Turner notable? The only Turner I know in Texas is the president of SMU.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:12, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. I don't know if he was notable or not, although I think the source said he was a multimillionaire. He's redlinked at the horse's article. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 02:15, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. I also think his great-uncle, John Scharbauer, should have an article.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to create an article about Turner if you can find enough references. Btw, Valor Farm might be notable. Not only for its abundance of oil (see his article), but also this. And you are in luck, because it looks like it's for sale, if you have a cool 16-17 million lying around.... Here's your ranch! I expect to be invited over for some riding if you do make the right decision and purchase it. Haha.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:22, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, I've been thinking about buying a ranch! (Don't think I can afford $17 million or even $1 million though.) White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 17:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Did you look at the horses on the farm website?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:52, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't. I'll check them out later--I've been turning Pat Parelli into an article instead of a redirect. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 20:01, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, you may want to take a look at Anne Valliant Burnett Tandy and Anne Windfohr Marion, and see if some of their horses could have their own articles too...Zigzig20s (talk) 04:40, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Several already do... @Atsme: may be interested in turning the redlinks blue. Montanabw^(talk) 08:32, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've moved James Goodwin Hall to mainspace. Feel free to expand it as well. Also if it is possible to add any of their pictures in the public domain...Good to see others interested in horses on WP!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:45, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll check them out. There are 4 or 5 active horsey members at WikiProject Equine and several more at WP:WikiProject Horse racing. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 16:12, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I find it interesting that Midland has such a rich history beyond GWB.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:33, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Midland and San Angelo (and their cowboy/ranching history) were featured in many books by Elmer Kelton. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 21:41, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could find out more about Henry B. Sanborn's horses as well...Zigzig20s (talk) 04:40, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Want to help a newbie?

They mean well but they aren't helping, yet. But maybe could get there. User:Eglet. I did the welcome message, but I'm not great at too much hand-holding... you are better at that than I am! Montanabw^(talk) 05:08, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, will check them out. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 17:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Parelli note

Pinged you at User talk:JackieLL007. Montanabw^(talk) 05:35, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]