Talk:2016 in film

2017 in Film

I need a 2017 in Film page to be made, because the movie "Ferdinand" comes out April 7, 2017, it's animated and directed by Carlos Saldanha http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=104401 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.3.6.27 (talk) 20:10, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Harry Potter and the Cursed Child

Harry Potter has 2 movies that are confirmed for 2016.

This is not a movie, it is a theatrical production. 71.13.246.32 (talk) 02:44, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Hercules (2016 film)

This cartoon movie will be presented by Paramount Pictures and in association with Nickelodeon Movies and released for Holiday 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.198.171 (talk) 17:04, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Dirty Grandpa

Hello. Could anyone change where it currently says "Dirty Grandpa: 26/2/2016". The film's not coming out until August 2016. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.229.64 (talk) 22:39, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The August 2016 release date was old info, best information on this date from the distributor's site and theatre schedule says Thusday, 21-Jan-2016. Mojo and IMDB show 20-Jan-2016 in Serbia, but I ain't gonna go there to confirm. Kid Bugs (talk) 20:54, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

BTW, even the official site for Dirty Grandpa shows in theatres 22-Jan-2016, but http://tickets.dirtygrandpa.movie/showtimes has showings on 21-Jan-2016. Go figure. Kid Bugs (talk) 21:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2016_in_film&oldid=700795634 is one reason it is not worth wasting time doing anything... Kid Bugs (talk) 22:50, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Medium column?

Does this need a Medium column? Prior years do not have it, and I really do not believe it adds much to the article. I can think or much more useful information to put in if one was to use the space. Kid Bugs (talk) 23:47, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't have a strong opinion on this. I will note, however, that the 2016-2020 articles all include this column. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:35, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

It would probably be more to remove the Genre and Media columns and put in information on Country, Gross, Closing date and maybe the type of release i.e. Festival, Limited or Wide. Make it sortable and you could get rid of the Top Ten list, although I can't find anything in WP:NOT that says Wikipedia is not David Letterman. Kid Bugs (talk) 23:52, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

yea you can probably remove the medium column from this and all future pages. if you look back at some of the pages you will see that it was discussed before pretty sure they made the agreement to remove it which make sense if you think about it all films are live action unless they are animated I think the only issue was putting animation as a genre because in reality its more of a format then a genre. Jkl2299 (talk) 07:44, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Highest-grossing films of 2016 not on list of 2016 films

It is very nice that editors are updating the list of Highest-grossing films, I an sorry that I do not have time to add the films that are missing from the list of 2016 films. Kid Bugs (talk) 23:43, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about the attempt at sarcasm above, I'm having a bad millennium.

Anyway, I notice that Jane Got a Gun IS on this list. Also notice, per Box Office Mojo, this film was release to 78 theatres in Germany on 2015-12-31, making a whopping $46,482 for the weekend. Per WP:FILMYEAR that would make it a 2015 film. Kid Bugs (talk) 01:50, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

The Revenant

Shouldn't The Revenant be at the top of the list? Or does its limited release in 2015 make it not count? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LegerPrime (talk • contribs) 13:32, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

You got it, The Revenant is considered a 2015 film. It could show up on the 2015 list if it makes enough. Kid Bugs (talk) 20:35, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Film Festivals

I updated the list of film festivals with best information readily available at this time, using the list from 2015 as a basis. I am wondering about notability and if festivals should even be listed before information is made available. New York, Carthage and Metro Manila have not placed any information online, I could not even find where to submit a film for consideration short of sending a random email. All of the festivals listed are reasonably well established, the newest coming into it's 27 year. Length of run is probably not a good basis for notability, any ideas? Kid Bugs (talk) 22:05, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Also, can anybody think of a reason why the table of festivals should be sortable? Kid Bugs (talk) 22:25, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Re: September 8–18 2016 Toronto International Film Festival, we know what year the festival is, it is at the top of the page. If the festival is for a different year, it would be on a different page. Kid Bugs (talk) 08:27, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Sherlock: The Abominable Bride, film or not?

I noticed that Treeroy removed Sherlock: The Abominable Bride from the Top 10 Gross list, with the note "removed Sherlock as it is not a 2016 film and so should not be considered in the chart." I had nothing to do with putting it on this list, but having done a bit to checking on it, I think it should be on the list. It opened in theatres simultaneously with the TV broadcast, which would present an interesting situation for BAFTA and AMPAS for award consideration, but we do not need to deal with that. The fact is, it opened in theatres and generated box office revenue, and was released in 2016. I do not see any reason why it should not be on the list, especially since it has made over $36,000,000 so far. Kid Bugs (talk) 00:13, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

If Disney could combine some shorts and release them theatrically as films, I don't see why BBC can release an extended version of an episode theatrically as a film. Even if this is not right, I don't think there will be any permanent damage, because in 1, 2 months it will fall out of the Top 10 after other blockbusters are released. DCF94 (talk) 19:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

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But here's the thing - this page is not for all box office entries, it is for films at the box office. Disney's collection of shorts is indeed being released, but it is not a film. There are live streaming events of theatre/opera/ballet that are shown in thousands of cinemas and they have reported grosses. This happens every week. But they would not appear on a list of highest grossing films because they are not films. Cinemas accommodate more than just films nowadays, but this article is strictly for films. If TV shows that are broadcast in cinemas are now films, then are films that get aired on TV now TV shows? The answer should be fairly obvious.

Box office reports and the BBC themselves considered the theatrical release to be a 'TV Episode' and not a film.

This article consists of a list of films, and the Top Ten table is simply a ranking of the films that are listed on the article. Would you really place the Sherlock episode on the list of 2016 films?

Finally, as mentioned above, it will only be a couple of weeks before Sherlock would be knocked out of the top ten anyway; is it really worth putting it in? At the end of the day, I believe this article is solely for films. It may be noteworthy box office news that the TV episode grossed so much, but this table is not the right place for its discussion, and may confuse users who believe the table to represent the highest grossing films. |- Treeroy (talk) 01:04, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Quite right that a live stream is not a Film. However, there is nothing in the definition of Film that automatically excludes a television production from being considered a "Film". AAMPAS has conditions by which a film is allowed to be considered for an award, one detail that it is not released on television prior to theatrical release. The Abominable Bride was not released after, but on the same day as the TV showing, and may well qualify for a film award. Would it be allowed on the list if it was not shown on TV?

Another upcoming film that will be questionable is Pee-wee's Big Holiday. It is set to premiere at South by Southwest, which would qualify it for this list, but after it is set for exclusive release on Netflix with no wide theatrical release planned at this time.

Does not bother me one way or the other. The (Year) in film pages are becoming unwieldy, if every film that did qualify was on the page it would be too big to be of any use at all. Much of what people are probably looking for should be on the List of (Country) films of (year), but those pages are mostly ignored because editors put every little thing on the Year in film page. I wager most are not even aware that List of American films of 2016 and it's ilk exist.

The List of (Language) films is another place that could be developed, there are pages on Lists of films for many languages, but notably lacking is a List of english-language films.

Anyway, I would suggest it may be worth getting the community together again to hammer out a workable system for film, the Manual of Style/Film is just too loose to continue. Kid Bugs (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Death List suggested change

No, this is NOT about the current Edit War over the content in the Notable deaths section.

The column "Notable films" should be changed to "Known for" or "Notable for". Many people that will be on that list are not best known for specific films. From the 2015 list, most would not know Donna Douglas for her films, but everybody over 30 knows her for the character Elly May on The Beverly Hillbillies.

Studio executives would not be known for a particular film, Steve Jobs is listed for Toy Story and A Bug's Life, instead of as majority shareholder of Pixar and later Disney.

Agents are normally known for those they represent, such as Sam Cohn who had Paul Newman and Woody Allen to name a few. Cohn isn't even ON the list, even though he was considered the first superagent.

Critics are not normally notable for films they happened to be involved in, Roger Ebert is turning in his grave to see that he listed as being notable for Beyond the Valley of the Dolls and Beneath the Valley of the Ultra-Vixens.

I wanted to throw this out there before making the change. With the current edit war going on, I am sure this will be like stepping on a land mine, unless the page is semi-protected, which would not be a bad idea anyway. Kid Bugs (talk) 22:26, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

By the way, the above will require a change to the Manual of Style/Film, which states "For the deaths section, a person must have two film credits to be added to the list". Kid Bugs (talk) 22:50, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Sockpuppet on Death List

209.140.38.94 is the latest IP in edit war with AleCapHollywood over the death list. 24.191.98.232 was doing it before, both 24.191.98.232 and 209.140.38.94 resolve to Optimum in Hicksville, NY. Kid Bugs (talk) 01:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

RED 3

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that RED 3 has a release date set for Dec 2, 2016. Here's one of the link's to the release date: http://www.releasedateportal.com/movies/red-3-release-date-2nd-december-2016/

Hope this helps! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.196.200.177 (talk) 17:54, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Notable records

Shouldn't Deadpool being highest-grossing R-rated film of all time be listed among the notable records? Malachi108 (talk) 18:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

No because the rating system is different in every country Jkl2299 (talk) 04:30, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit war on Death List

About the edit waring on the "Notable deaths" list, I've noticed that several people have been removed from the list more of once (even when anonymous users added them back), and many of them were added by me. Now, I don't know if adding those people was wheter or not an act of vandalism: according my humble point of view, I think it was more an act of vandalism deleting them all those times from that list. So, what do you think, Mr. @Jkl2299:?

And, by the way, Merle Haggard died at the age of 79, not 73. Peace and love. AleCapHollywood (talk), 10 April 2016

@Jkl2299: Could you please participate here? I see you continuing to remove these additions and refer to them as vandalism, but they appear to be good faith additions. I checked several of the deaths added and the actors/actresses have both articles here on Wikipedia as well as sourced 2016 deaths. What is the basis for inclusion as a notable death that you are following to remove them? -- ferret (talk) 15:51, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

the page was becoming too long so I removed people who were lesser known. I only called it vandalism was because editor AleCapHollywood was reverting it and aslo using multiple IP address to edit war Jkl2299 (talk) 17:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Multiple IP address??? I have always used my IP address to modify the page: when I do an edit, I usually don't hide behind an unknown IP address. Beside, who is able to say that somebody is lesser known than someone else to deserve to be in that list? I've noticed that almost all of them are not American; I don't want to use the excuse that I'm Italian to accuse somebody of racism. I hate edit war and I don't want to delete someone else's edit on the page. So, if any of you will add someone else on the list, I won't say anything. I hope that this courtesy will be reciprocated by everybody. Once again, peace and love. AleCapHollywood (talk) 20:24, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

WP:FILMYEAR sets the rules for death lists and who should be included, and these entries appear to meet the guidelines. Edits are not vandalism just because other editors disagree with you or edit war, please read about assuming good faith and vandalism. You need to stop removing these entries for an arbitrary personal reason like "The list is long". If they fail the guidelines set forth in WP:FILMYEAR, that's a different story, but that does not appear to be the case here. -- ferret (talk) 19:47, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

fine have it your way but it doesn't excuse AleCapHollywood using multiple Ip addresses to edit war Jkl2299 (talk) 01:15, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Assuming that's true, it doesn't excuse you edit warring back, either. Takes two to tango. -- ferret (talk) 01:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm going to look if my IP address has been hackered (it happens, you know). @Jkl2299: There's no need to forgive or to insult anybody. After all, I haven't deleted your edits and I promise you I never will. If you'll add someone else's name, I'll be the first to be happy for you. @Ferret: Thanks again for having pacified everybody. AleCapHollywood (talk) 09:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree that the whole page is too long, and should probably be broken up. However, a short term solution would be to simply collapse the Death List, i.e.:

Death List

Extended content
Norwegian Blue - Dead Parrot Red Shirt - "He's dead, Jim"

Kid Bugs (talk) 03:28, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Captain America: Civil War needs to be moved

Captain America: Civil War opened on 2016-04-27 and has earned $224,300,000 as of 2016-05-02 per http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=marvel2016.htm on 2016-05-03. Even so, it shows an Opening date of 2016-05-06. It is on the top ten list and has not opened? The film currently directly below it on the list, Café Society, correctly shows it's release date as 2016-05-11 as that is when it opens at Cannes. It will not have domestic (North America) release until 2016-07-15.

Make up your minds how release dates will be handled. If editors cannot be bothered to check the guidelines for consistency, then lock the article and allow only certain editors to change it.

I can not think of a polite way to describe the "Year in film" articles, but I give up trying to do anything with them. The way they stand they should just be deleted since they are an embarrassment to Wikipedia and anyone who works on them. Kid Bugs (talk) 22:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Do NOT include Monster Hunt

Monster Hunt is a 2015 movie. It may have opened in my regions in 2016, including the States, but it's initial worldwide release kicked off in 2015. Therefore, it's a movie from that year. Kinda the same as American Sniper counting as a 2014 film despite making 99% of its cash in 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8A0:7456:4401:A4FB:3A87:DD36:EC49 (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Godzilla Resurgence

Hi, sorry to ask but I was wondering if Godzilla Resurgence should be included as there are other foreign movies (Bollywood) included as well as those from Hollywood - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla_Resurgence - RVDDP2501 (talk) 02:31, 10 June 2016 (UTC)