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This article was nominated for deletion on 2006-07-26. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

A similar article already exists

Check out Notable attacks by the LTTE. This one should be deleted. Ulflarsen 21:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This page has hundreds of LTTE terrorist attacks too minor to be included as a notable attack in Notable attacks by the LTTE Ruchiraw 00:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An encyclopedia tries to extract knowledge. We dont aim for listing everything, and this includes all attacks the LTTE has done. So I keep to that this article should be deleted. Besides that, I do believe you hurt your standing by defending this article when we allready have Notable attacks by the LTTE. Ulflarsen 18:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show me that policy. I believe the Encyclopedia Britannica contains all facts relevant to its topics Ruchiraw 02:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When you signed up I placed a number of links on your page as a welcome message, one of them was this oneWikipedia:Five pillars. It says:

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. It is not a collection of source documents or trivia, a dictionary, a soapbox, a newspaper, vanity publisher, an experiment in anarchy or democracy, or a web directory. It is also not the place to insert your own opinions, experiences, or arguments — all editors must follow our no original research policy and strive for accuracy.

Adding an article like that when there already is one very similar is not what we try to achieve. Ulflarsen 17:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not very similar , it has a different focus and there is very little overlap, mayne less than 8 %. When this article is expanded , it will go to less than 2 % overlapRuchiraw 22:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That Artical does not have all the information this artical has

If one artical should be deleated it should be the other one.[[1]] not this. This has more info than that.

we have tried to incorporate the below list to the main artical of LTTE. But the users of that page dont allow any NPOV on that page and our contributions got reverted all the time. Below is the list of attacks we tried to incorporated but they kept deleating them and finally moved in to the descussion page. Then they compleately took off that part from the main LTTE page and opened up a new page to avoid readers to see these attacks. I dont think that this page should be deleted and I vote to keep it. Plus all these attacks are listed as attacks carried out by the LTTE. Why cant we give that information to the readers?? Arent Wikipedia based on facts?----RavenS 03:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is listed In MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Basethat LTTE is a terrorist Group and its listed that the attacks below was carried out by the LTTE in UNHCHR UNHCHR.So I dont see any problem in listing these as "notable attacks" by LTTE.As a matter of fact we are all trying to give the true picture to the world not mislead them.----RavenS 03:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

   * 30/11/84 29 Sinhalese Villagers killed by LTTE at Kent Farm, Oddusudan
   * 30/11/84 33 Sinhalese Villagers killed by LTTE at Doller Farm
   * 01/12/84 11 Sinhalese Villagers killed by LTTE at Kokilai, Vavuniya
   * 13/12/84 27 Tamils killed by LTTE at Oddusudan
   * 19/01/85 11 civilians killed by LTTE in Yal Devi Explosion
   * 14/05/85 120 civilians killed by LTTE at the Sri Maha Bodhi, Anuradhapura
   * 14/05/85 18 civilians killed by LTTE at Wilpattu.
   * 02/06/85 13 civilians killed by LTTE in CTB bust at Morawewa.
   * 04/06/85 13 Sinhalese killed by LTTE at Dewatte, Trincomalee.
   * 03/05/86 16 killed in a bomb blast in a Tri-Star Plane at Katunayake Airport by LTTE.
   * 07/05/86 14 killed in bomb explosion by LTTE - CTO Fort.
   * 25/05/86 20 Sinhalese shot dead and 20 houses set on fire Mahadiwulwewa, Trincomalee by LTTE.
   * 31/05/86 13 killed in a bomb blast at Veyangoda station.
   * 04/06/86 17 Sinhalese villagers including Bakamune Subaddalankara Thero, shot deat at Andankulam, Trincomalee by LTTE.
   * 11/06/86 22 persons killed by LTTE in tow explosions in Trincomalee.
   * 25/06/86 16 Sinhalese killed by LTTE in bomb explosion, Sittaru, Kantale.
   * 08/07/86 15 Sinhalese villagers shot dead at Monkey bridge, Trincomalee.
   * 19/07/86 12 Sinhalese shot dead at Medirigiriya,Polonnaruwa by LTTE.
   * 22/07/86 32 Sinhalese killed in mine explosion at Mamaduwa, Vavuniaya by LTTE.
   * 24/07/86 12 civilians killed in a bus-bom at Issenbessagala, Medawachchiya by LTTE.
   * 07/02/87 28 Sinhalese killed by LTTE at Arantalawa, Ampara.
   * 22/03/87 26 Sinhalese villagers shot dead by LTTE at Serunewa, Horowpothana.
   * 17/04/87 96 Sinhalese killed by LTTE at Trincomalee/Habarana Road.
   * 20/04/87 15 Sinhalese villagers shot dead by LTTE at Jayanthipura, Trincomalee.
   * 02/06/87 30 Buddhist monks and 4 civilians shot dead by LTTE at Arantalawa, Ampara.
   * 11/06/87 13 civilians killed in a pressure mine explosion, Veppankulam by LTTE.
   * 06/10/87 18 Sinhalese shot dead by LTTE at Batticaloa.
   * 06/10/87 27 Sinhalese villagers shot dead at Sagarapura, kuchchuveli, Trincomalee by LTTE.
   * 06/10/87 22 Sinhalese shot dead by LTTE at Talawa, Eravur.
   * 07/10/87 30 Sinhalese shot dead by LTTE at Ampara.
   * 15/10/87 14 Sinhalese passengers shot dead on Ella Kantale, Trincomalee by LTTE.
   * 16/10/87 11 Sinhalese hostages killed by LTTE at Pulmoddai, Trincomalee.
   * 09/11/87 23 civilians killed, 106 injured in a bomb explosion at Maradana, Colombo by LTTE.
   * 12/11/87 12 Tamils killed by LTTE in landmine explosion, Cheddikulam, Vavuniya.
   * 02/03/88 14 Sinhalese villagers shot dead by LTTE - Morawewa, Trincomalee.
   * 05/03/88 16 Muslims and 8 Sinhalese killed in a mine explosion, Sitturu, Kantale by LTTE.
   * 11/03/88 19 Passengers of a private bus killed, Suhadagama, Horawpothana by LTTE.
   * 14/03/88 13 villages killed at Galametiyawa, Kantalai, Trincomalee by LTTE.
   * 31/03/88 10 Muslims and 07 Tamils killed at Saindamaradu, Kalmunai by LTTE.
   * 08/04/88 14 Sinhalese killed by LTTE at Horowpothana, Meegaswewa, Anuradhapura.
   * 01/05/88 12 Sinhalese, 9 Muslims and 5 Tamils wee killed by LTTE at Sittaru in landmine explosion.
   * 28/07/88 16 civilians killed by LTTE at Etawetunuwewa, Welioya.
   * 25/08/88 11 civilians killed by cutting their necks, by LTTE - Marawila, Polonnaruwa.
   * 09/10/88 44 villagers killed by LTTE at Mahakongaskada, Medavachchiya.
   * 14/11/88 28 Sinhalese killed by LTTE at paniketiyawa, Gomarankadawela.
   * 02/02/89 11 Sinhalese hacked to death, by LTTE - Bogamuyaya, Maha Oya, Ampara.
   * 11/02/89 34 Sinhalese villagers killed by LTTE at Dutuwewa, Horowpotana.
   * 27/02/89 37 Sinhalese villagers shot dead by LTTE at Borawewa, Polonnaruwa.
   * 17/08/89 18 civilians killed by LTTE in an IED explosion at Nochchikulam, Vavuniya.
   * 26/07/90 19 Sinhalese killed by LTTE at Thammannaelawaka, Medawachchiya.
   * 03/08/90 103 Muslims killed and 70 wounded at Meera Jumma and Hussaina Mosques, Kathankudi, Batticaloa-by LTTE.
   * 05/08/90 17 Muslim farmers killed by LTTE at Mullayankadu, Ampara.
   * 06/08/90 33 farmers killed by LTTE at Ampara.
   * 07/08/90 30 Sinhalese killed by LTTE at Bandaraduwa, Uhana, Ampara.
   * 08/08/90 26 Sinhalese killed by LTTE in a bus at Meegaswewa, Anuradhapura.
   * 11/08/90 116 Muslim killed at division 3 and 6, Eravur by LTTE.
   * 13/08/90 14 civilians killed in bus ambush, at 15th Mile Post, Pulmoddai, Welioya - by LTTE.
   * 19/09/90 23 Sinhalese killed and 11 houses burnt by LTTE at Vellanmundal, Puttalam.
   * 21/09/90 15 killed by LTTE at Pudukudiyirippu, Ampara.
   * 23/01/91 25 civilians killed by LTTE at Bogammuyaya, Maha Oya, Ampara.
   * 02/03/91 13 civilians killed Havelock Road bomb explosion that killed Ranjan Wijeratne - by LTTE.
   * 14/04/91 17 Sinhalese killed, by LTTE - Ethimalai, Monaragala.
   * 20/04/91 21 civilians hacked to death by LTTE at Niyadela.
   * 27/06/91 16 civilians killed by LTTE in two claymore explosions at Lahugala, Ampara.
   * 06/07/91 16 Muslims and 2 Sinhalese killed by LTTE at Pudur, Polonnaruwa.
   * 19/09/91 13 Muslims killed by LTTE at Palliyagodella, Polonnaruwa.
   * 10/04/92 25 civilians killed in bomb explosion in Ampara - by LTTE.
   * 29/04/92 56 civilians killed by LTTE in Muslim village, Alinchipothana, Polonnaruwa.
   * 02/06/92 15 passengers killed in bust by LTTE at 209th Mile Post at Ampara.
   * 15/07/92 19 Muslim passengers killed in a bus by LTTE at Kirankulam, Batticaloa.
   * 01/09/92 22 Muslims killed in an explosion in Saindamaradu, Kalmunai- by LTTE.
   * 01/10/92 15 civilians killed by LTTE at Konwewa, Welioya.
   * 15/10/92 172 civilians killed 4 Muslim villages - Pallayagodella, Ahamedpura, Pamburana and Agbopura in Polonnaruwa-by LTTE.
   * 01/05/93 17 killed by LTTE at Armour street explosion that killed President R.Premadasa.
   * 16/03/94 17 Sinhalese killed by LTTE in Kudiramalai, Puttalam.
   * 24/11/94 55 killed by LTTE in bomb blast at Grandpass including Gamini Dissanayake.
   * 25/05/95 42 civilians killed by LTTE at Kallarawa,Trincomalee.
   * 07/08/95 22 People died in bomb blast at Torrington Square-by LTTE.
   * 21/10/95 16 villagers killed by LTTE at Mangalagama, Ampara.
   * 21/10/95 36 civilians killed by LTTE at Moneratenna, Bowatta, Polonnaruwa.
   * 21/10/95 19 villagers killed north or Padaviya, Galtalawa, Welioya - by LTTE.
   * 25/10/95 11 civilians killed by LTTE at Athimale,Kotiyagala, Monaragala.
   * 25/10/95 12 villagers killed by LTTE at Panama, Ampara.
   * 26/10/95 26 villagers killed in an attack by LTTE on 03 Kabethigollawa villagers.
   * 11/11/95 15 civilians killed in a suicide attack by LTTE at Slave Island.
   * 31/01/96 89 killed in Central Bank building bomb blast-by LTTE.
   * 24/07/96 68 people killed in a bomb attack by LTTE at Dehiwala Railway station.
   * 15/10/97 18 civilians killed at bomb blast in Galadari Hotel, Colombo-by LTTE.
   * 24/01/98 A LTTE suicide bomber had exploded 02 bombs in the vicinity of Dalanda Maligawa, Kandy.
   * 06/02/98 A LTTE Suicide bomber exploded at Air Force Road block, Slave Island, killing 03 Airmen.
   * 05/03/98 Bomb exploded near Maradana Police Station, killing 38 civilians and injuring 270 civilians.
   * 11/09/98 An explosion took place inside the Municipal commissioner’s office closer to Nallur Kovil. Mr. P Sivapalan mayor of Jaffna and 07 others killed and 15 wounded.
   * 17/07/99 A time bomb fixed to a bicycle exploded exploded near old police station, Batticaloa. 02 civilians died and 17 were wounded.
   * 29/07/99 A LTTE suicide bomber exploded himself whilst Dr. Neelam Thiruchelvam was travelling in Rosmid place junction.
   * 22/09/99 An explosion occurred in a private bus parked at the Negombo private bus stand injuring 02 civilians by LTTE.
   * 22/09/99 A bomb exploded in a People’s Transport Service bus plying from Negambo to Kuliyapitiya, injuring 09 passengers.
   * 26/09/99 A bomb exploded in a private bus near the 2nd Mile post of Badulla, Passara, Monaragala killing 01 civilian and injuring 28 others.
   * 18/12/99 An explosion suspected to be triggered off by a LTTE suicide female terrorist took place at the Town Hall, Colombo.
   * 18/12/99 A explosion at Ja-Ela bus stand where the UNP presidential Election rally was held. 12 civilians killed with Major Gen C L Algama and 45 others wounded.
   * 05/01/2000 A LTTE suicide bomber exploded near Prime Minister Office in Flower Road, Colombo killing 05 persons and injuring 24 civilians.
   * 25/04/2006 a LTTE female suicide bomber attacked the vehicle of the commander of the Sri Lankan army at army headquarters in Colombo. Several military personnel were killed and a number of people were injured.

Replacing 'Terrorist' with 'Cadre'

Sorry I sound cynical but why bother, this entire article is taken from a GoSL letter to the UNHCR and mostly uncorroborated by third party sources as such it is already quite unbalanced by its very existance. It is nothing more than an attempt to bypass NPOV that was associated with the original 'Notable attacks' article and as such a POVFork.--Realstarslayer 20:55, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Realstarslayer, "entire article is taken from a GoSL letter to the UNHCR ". Thats just not true. It uses some material from GoSL but other references are used as well. Ruchiraw 01:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections that need to be addressed

Ok since it has been determined this article will remain, let us then work towards making it at least factual and finding proper citations for these attacks. Then we can look at merger with the main article as proposed.

UNHCR links are not valid citations as they only refer to a GoSL letter and should be removed as a GoSL letter cannot be considered an independent citation given that they are party to the conflict. Incidents refered to in this letter also need to be removed unless valid citations can be found.

untill the UNHCR is confirmed as a inaccurate and non verifiable source It can be used as a verifyable source.

Source was the Government of Sri Lanka not the UNHCR - not an independent source.--Realstarslayer 19:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

The question is not the method of communication, however the source of those communications. The source was the government of Sri Lanka NOT the UNHCR, thus these items should now be removed as I have not seen any independent citations for the majority. Will be cleaning them up now.--Realstarslayer 19:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1984

UTHR link actually serves to support claims of the colonisation of Tamil lands by the Sinhala with government support more than it mentions anything about these massacres - well there is one line which indirectly refers to the incident. So I think better citations are needed.

1985

See UNHCR note above - all attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter - cite valid sources or remove.

untill the UNHCR is confirmed as a inaccurate and non verifiable source It can be used as a verifyable source.
The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1986

See UNHCR note above - all attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter - cite valid sources or remove.

untill the UNHCR is confirmed as a inaccurate and non verifiable source It can be used as a verifyable source.
The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Madras Airport Blast, Indian investigations showed that it was not the LTTE [2] - needs to be removed (this was cited in the same GoSL letter sent to the UNHCR - thus raising doubts about its credibility).

"But the Crime Branch/ CID sleuths, working overtime under my direction, detected the case within a week. The investigation revealed the involvement of a small group called TEA (Tamil Ealam Army). Involved in the conspiracy were: (1) the TEA Chief "Panegoda" Maheswaran (so called because of his daring escape from the maximum security prison at Panegoda in Sri Lanka) who was a chemical engineering graduate from London University and an expert in explosives (who, according to a section of the press, was reported to have visited Madras prior to the Rajiv Gandhi assassination). (2) Vigneswara Raja, retired Collector of Customs in Sri Lanka; (3) Thambi Raja, a Sri Lankan national; (4) Vijayakumar, and (5) Loganathan, both Indian nationals working for Air Lanka; and (6) Chandrakumar, a police constable attached to the Airport police station. The objective of the conspirators was not to blast Madras airport, but to plant a bomb on the Air Lanka plane leaving Madras for Colombo, with the timing so adjusted as to have the bomb explode in Colombo airport. The plan misfired because of the delay in the take off of the Air Lanka aircraft. Vigneswara Raja, Thambi Raja, Vijayakumar, Loganathan and Chandrakumar were arrested immediately, while Maheswaran absconded."

1987

See UNHCR note above - all other attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter.

The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

22.03.87 Serunuwara Horowpathana ... no citation at all
central bus stand blast is only one semi-properly cited - even that an actual article other than timeline would be better.

1988

See UNHCR note above - all attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter - cite valid sources or remove.

The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1989

See UNHCR note above - all attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter - cite valid sources or remove.

The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1990

See UNHCR note above - attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter - cite valid sources or remove.

The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

08.08.90 Meegaswewa Anuradhapura Private coach... no citation.
13.08.90 Gangi village, Muttur, Trincomalee Six Muslim... no citation

1991

See UNHCR note above - all attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter - cite valid sources or remove.

The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

12.06.91 Kokkadicholai Batticaloa LTTE Bomb... no citation

1992

See UNHCR note above - all attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter - cite valid sources or remove. - Other than: 29.04.92 Alinchipothana Polonnaruwa...

untill the UNHCR is confirmed as a inaccurate and non verifiable source It can be used as a verifyable source.
The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1993

This is already covered on Notable attacks page.

1994

See UNHCR note above - all attacks are cited with this one single GoSL letter - cite valid sources or remove. - Other than: 24.10.1994 Sri Lankan presidential candidate Gamini Dissanake...

untill the UNHCR is confirmed as a inaccurate and non verifiable source It can be used as a verifyable source.
The The communication method that took place to notify these allegation are irrelevant to the topic.

RavenS 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1995

25.05.95 Kallarawa, TCO LTTE cadres have attacked the fishing village and hacked and shot to death 42 civilians (22 males,12 females and 08 civilians <-- this needs rewording?

someone's tripod homepage is not a valid citation - find proper citations or remove.

1996

Find a better citation for the train bombing.

someone's tripod homepage is not a valid citation - find proper citations or remove.

1997

citation needed.

1999

citation needed for Neelan killing.

Better citations for other two would be nice, with moe details, rather than just timeline.

2000

27.01.2000:LTTE bomb a post office... - citation does not support this item (inf act it same link as for the next item which is the correct one)
18.05.2000: An LTTE bomber killed 23... - citaiton needed.
03.10.2000: An LTTE bomb kills parliamentary candidate Mohammed Baithullah... - citation needed.

2001

Technically by opening discription this does not count as a terrorist attack, no civilians were killed only military personnel and original attack was on the military aribase [3]. It is also listed on notable attacks page so will be sorted out when merged.

2006

Not sure the national park explosion even counts as an attack?

13 farm workers - GoSL website is not a valid neutral source, we could just as easily cite the LTTEPS who denied any involvement.
Bus bombing - the US did not carry out any investigations - the SLMM did - their chief has stated that increasingly it does not look like the LTTE were involved - entry should mention this.

Thus overall the majority of attacks listed here come from a non neutral source, which is a single letter sent to the UNHCR by the GoSL - these must be removed unless valid 3rd party citations can be found for each attack. Otherwise we could just as easily start an article and list every attack mentioned on TamilNet or the LTTEPS and call it fact.

--Realstarslayer 04:49, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed unverifiable items

As mentioned previously I had posted the complete list of unverifiable items and there has been over 20 days since then. There have been no citations forthcoming for these items and so they have been removed.

If someone wishes to re-add items with a proper citation please do so.

A letter from one party to the conflict does not meet Wikipedia citation standards for reliable sources.

WP:RS Reliable sources

Also note:

Wikipedia:Neutral_Point_of_View#Bias NPOV:Bias in particular nationalistic bias.

Wikipedia:Cite_sources Citing sources

--Realstarslayer 19:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]