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Deletion of the page Hookson

I would like to recreate this page, including reliable sources as advised. Will this be possible? All sources are reliable and relevant, with many being news articles published about the company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hookson (talk • contribs) 11:58, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing that I can see suggests that the company satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The most relevant guidelines in this case are the general notability guideline and the guideline on notability of organisations and companies, but I suggest the best place to look for guidance is Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations, which gives a fairly good summary of many points relevant to creating articles about companies, much easier to follow than having to look at numerous pages on different relevant topics. I really strongly urge you to consider whether the company does satisfy those guidelines before doing anything else, because if it doesn't (as seems likely to me) then any time and work you put into writing about it is likely to be wasted, since whatever you write is likely to be deleted. It is also important for you to be aware of Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest, and of the fact that if your editing is part of work for which you receive pay you must declare the fact. (That applies whether the pay is in the form of salary or whether as an employee, profits as an owner, commission as a paid external contractor, or whatever.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Institute for Development Impact (I4DI).

Hi James. This page was not meant to be a promotion for the organization in any way. I believe I4DI is a notable non-profit that does meaningful work towards sustainable development in the world. I think it is important that organizations such as I4DI that are smaller should have a page so that others can learn about about their work. I based the page off of the page of other management consulting firms such as McKinsey & Company, and PwC. If you could advise me as to how I can fix the language to better the page so it can serve its intended purpose I would appreciate it. Thank you. Also would it be possible to receive the text back from the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shreya bathwal (talk • contribs) 16:58, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Shreya bathwal: How anyone can repeatedly write whole pages of such unambiguous marketing-speak as "With our broad-based expertise, we provide tailored, high quality program and organizational effectiveness consulting services" (and so on and so on) and then say that it was not intended to be promotional is beyond me. Both versions of the article were unambiguous attempts to use Wikipedia as a free advertising service. However, even if the article were rewritten in a totally non-promotional way, I doubt that it would survive long, as my searches have failed to produce any evidence whatever that the business satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. While some problems with articles can be solved by rewriting, no amount of rewriting an article can change the notability of the subject of the article. My advice is that any time and effort spent in trying to create an article about your business on Wikipedia is likely to be wasted, and you would be better off putting the same time and effort into publicising it by other means. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:44, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

your speedy deletion of Katarina Jewelry

Hello James, It was supposed to be a general information page of a reputed eCommerce store. If I can't post this information- would you be able post the similar content. I had found many ecoomerce jewelry companies owning their page on wikipedia. Please help me.

talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samantasmyth (talk • contribs) 17:32, 5 July 2016‎

@Samantasmyth: First of all, you seem to have come here with mistaken ideas about the nature of Wikipedia. That is not surprising: when I first started editing Wikipedia I had very inaccurate ideas about how Wikipedia works, and so do many other new editors. One of the mistakes you have made is thinking that companies "own" Wikipedia articles about themselves. All Wikipedia articles belong only to the Wikimedia Foundation. The Wikimedia Foundation obtains content for articles from volunteers who contribute freely. The intention is that articles should be neutral, and written by uninvolved third parties. As has already been explained to you on your talk page, anyone working for or closely connected to a business is strongly discouraged from editing about that business.

The article was unambiguously promotional, reading from start to finish like advertising copy. That is unacceptable. However, even if the article were rewritten in a totally non-promotional way, I doubt that it would survive long, as my searches have failed to produce persuasive evidence that the business satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. While some problems with articles can be solved by rewriting, no amount of rewriting an article can change the notability of the subject of the article. My advice is that any time and effort spent in trying to create an article about your business on Wikipedia is likely to be wasted, and you would be better off putting the same time and effort into publicising it by other means. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:46, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi James,

Thank you for your guidance. I have found many similar entries in wikipedia. I understand that I should not be using this as an advertising channel. But after running the business for 13 years, I thought, it is fine to make an entry in wikipedia to inform consumers searching about Katarina Jewelry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewelry_retailers_of_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kranich%27s_Jewelers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BaubleBar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritani

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pura_Vida_Bracelets

I would appreciate how can be qualified to be published on wikipedia like the companies listed above?

Thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samantasmyth (talk • contribs) 17:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are quite right: all of those articles are promotional in character. One of them was so blatantly promotional that I have speedily deleted it, and I shall try to find time soon to look at the others in more detail and decide what should be done about them. However, the fact that some businesses manage to get away with posting articles which are not in line with Wikipedia policy for quite a while before they are noticed and dealt with does not mean that it is acceptable for other businesses to do so. You may find it helpful to read WP:OTHERSTUFF, which is written in connection with deletion discussions, rather than speedy deletion, but the same principles apply. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

E-auction 3.0

Hello James. This is the second time when my article is deleted and I do not understand how to change and improve it in such a way that wikipedia will accept it. Can you give me some advices about what I can do? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pasha1443 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 5 July 2016‎

@Pasha1443: The article has actually been deleted three times, not two, under two different titles. There was nothing in any of the three versions of the article to indicate that the subject is significant enough to be the subject of a Wikipedia article, nor have my searches found evidence that it is. To see the sort of thing that is needed, see Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Links to websites associated with eauction or idf are of no value in establishing significance, as they are not independent sources; nor is YouTube, as anyone can post anything there; nor are sources such as gitbook, which publishes publicity material on behalf of organisations and companies. While some problems with articles can be solved by rewriting, no amount of rewriting an article can change the notability of the subject of the article. In addition, while the articles were not written in blatant marketing-speak, the general impression was that they were created for the purpose of publicising "E-auction 3.0", which is contrary to Wikipedia policy. It is very common for people to think that Wikipedia is the ideal way to get publicity for a new and as yet little-known project, campaign, club, web site, company, or whatever else, but it is a mistaken impression, as Wikipedia is not a medium for publicity or promotion, and also as Wikipedia's guidelines require subjects of articles to already have substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. My advice is that any time and effort spent in trying to create an article about your business on Wikipedia is likely to be wasted, and you would be better off putting the same time and effort into publicising it by other means. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:49, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Careers360 Page

James, Sorry If I violated Wikipedia guidelines. Careers360 page was not created with intention to promote the company. It provides information to students to help in college Admissions. Millions of students visit the website to get the information about exams, courses & admissions. I request you to please restore access to page content so I can edit the page following Wikipedia guidelines.

--Alphaq21 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:10, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Alphaq21: You are asking for the article to be restored so that it can serve the purpose of attracting students and potential students to the company's website. That is a service which Wikipedia does not provide. Also, looking at your editing history, I see that your sole purpose in editing Wikipedia is to post such promotional articles on behalf of businesses. That means that you are in conflict with Wikipedia's policy that promotional editing is unacceptable, and assuming that you are paid for doing that, you are also in breach of the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use, as undisclosed paid editing is not permitted. You are likely to be blocked from editing if you continue. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:33, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Egon Spengler

Perhaps you can explain to these users why such info in not needed.[1] Much of that is useless information that does nothing for the page, non-canon info or it's simply made-up and even trivia, because I can't get though to anyone on that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.15.200 (talk) 18:50, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please unprotect Solar power.

I think protection of Solar power is not needed nowdays.165.132.24.162 (talk) 09:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]