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I've tried to request a peer review, but I only get a red banner inserted on my talk page. What am I missing.

Hi,

Since it is getting rather popular, I drafted an article about the Transcrypt open source project that I initiated on:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Transcrypt

Before releasing it into article space, I'd like it to be reviewed. I've looked up how to do that following the instructions closely several times, but all it does is inserting a red banner on the talk page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Transcrypt

What am I missing?

Kind regards Jacques de Hooge

Jacdeh (talk) 08:47, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

how to start a new profile

hi friends, iam dr balaji. i want to start a new profile by name ISVIR INDIA its our medical society. please help me regarding. thanking you dr.balajiDrbalaji777 (talk) 07:26, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Drbalaji777. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and does not publish "profiles". Please use social media sites like LinkedIn for that sort of thing. Wikipedia contains neutrally written encyclopedia articles about notable topics. Please read and study Your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:36, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

hi mr cullen

i mean i want to start a page on ISVIR. Can you please help me regardingDrbalaji777 (talk) 08:15, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

About copyright permissions

Hello! im just a newbie here, Last three (3) days ago, I uploaded an image that fit in the article, it has an sources and authors because i do not owned that image.

3 days after, i found a deletion tag on my uploaded file for it has a missing permissions and it will be deleted in seven (7) days if i could not find, So my question is, How or where should i get my permission and where should i present it? thank you! JournalmanManila (talk) 02:01, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
The images appear to be c:File:Philippine-gold 04c.jpg and c:File:Golden-tara.jpg. -- Gestrid (talk) 02:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, JournalmanManila. I took a look at the first image and its source. It came from a museum website that contains the notice "All rights reserved 2015." The only way that this image could be used on Wikipedia is if you can convince the copyright holder which is either the museum or the photographer to agree to stop reserving all rights and instead release the image under an acceptable Creative Commons license. Although anything is possible, I consider this highly unlikely. If the museum allows photography, you could go there and photograph the object itself, and upload your photo to Wikimedia Commons. I have done just that myself quite a few times, and photos I have taken at museums are used to illustrate several Wikipedia articles about artists and works of art. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:59, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Creating an Article

Hello I am a big fan of this guy named Calvin Ross and I noticed he doesn't have a wiki page. He is verified on facebook, spotify, and does amazing music. Is there a way for him to get a wiki page. Thanks ! Itzkalibaby (talk) 23:50, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

See WP:42. In short, you need multiple professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are specifically about him but not affiliated with him. In other words, being verified on FB and Spotify doesn't really mean anything. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:52, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Itzkalibaby. I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Notability (music), and think carefully about whether Ross meets the standard. Do the type of sources described above by Ian.thomson exist? Social media sources do not make a musician eligible for a Wikipedia article. Please also read and study Your first article if you intend to try to write an article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:16, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Can you guys see if he has news articles please. Itzkalibaby (talk) 00:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

@Itzkalibaby: A quick Google search yields nothing of interest. Keep in mind that, if you're the one creating the article, you're usually the one that has to find reliable sources. If you want to create a new article, I suggest you use the Articles for Creation process to create it. Reviewers will then be able to review the article and either accept it or give you feedback for improvement. -- Gestrid (talk) 01:06, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Claiming upload

Can someone please assist me with this? I'm not sure exaxtly how or where to do what I'm being prompted to do.

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WikiEditorial101 (talk) 16:59, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
I've edited the link above because it originally made the section appear a little weird. See here to see what I mean. -- Gestrid (talk) 17:07, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello, WikiEditorial101, and welcome to the Teahouse! Was the picture taken by you? If so, all you need to do is go to File:Lydia Canaan at MY World Partners Awards Ceremony.jpeg on the desktop version of the Wikipedia website, click on "Edit source", and, where it says {{media by uploader}}, change it so it instead says {{media by uploader|claimed=yes}}. Make sure you're logged in while doing all of this. Does that clear things up for you? -- Gestrid (talk) 17:14, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Changing article name and draft article name

Is there any way to change an article name? How about a draft name? I couldn't follow the instructions for creating a draft and ended up with a draft called draft! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmariez (talk • contribs) 16:22, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Hmariez, and welcome to the Teahouse! The only way to rename a page is to move the page. Click here for more on that, including instructions on how to do it. If you need help understanding the instructions or moving Draft:Draft 2, let us know so we can help you. -- Gestrid (talk) 16:52, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Also, I would suggest you go through the Articles for Creation process since Eric Poe has already been deleted once. Since you've already created your draft, all you need to do is copy and paste {{AFC submission|T}} exactly as it appears here and place it at the very top of your draft. It'll produce something like this. -- Gestrid (talk) 16:59, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gestrid, thank you for the answer and suggestions. I revised the article using the link you provided in hopes that it now conforms with Wikipedia standards. I am posting it here so I can get feedback. If I mark the article for submission, please tell me it won't get deleted again without some useful feedback? I also still need to add categories. Hoping I can figure out where to find them... if not I'll add as a separate question. Thanks again!Hmariez (talk) 17:54, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

@Hmariez: The only ways, I believe, that an article draft could get deleted is if a significant portion of the article is a copyright violation or if it hasn't been edited within the last six months. Also, you shouldn't add categories to a draft. That'll be done soon after your draft is accepted. You can submit your draft multiple times. Also, you will always receive helpful feedback from the reviewers on what you need to change or fix. -- Gestrid (talk) 19:21, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Inline citations and in-text citations

I was checking Twinkle's page tag options. "article has unclear or inconsistent inline citations", "article has some references, but insufficient in-text citations" and "article has references, but no in-text citations". I need to know the difference between Inline citation and in-text citation. I know adding references and sources. Marvellous Spider-Man (talk) 14:18, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Spidey. It seems the options are using the terms in-text and inline interchangeably. (as opposed to inline citation vs in text attribution). My understand is that first tag would be used when citation styles are mixed, such as mixing a parenthetical citation/bibliography, with a style using <ref></ref>. The second two would be used in cases where there are manually input references in the reference section (as opposed to using <ref></ref> and {{reflist}}), and some or all of those citations are not linked to in the body of the article, so that it's not clear what content the reference supports. TimothyJosephWood 15:11, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

"Article has unclear or inconsistent inline citations" would be {{citation style}}. "Article has some references, but insufficient in-text citations" would be {{more footnotes}}. "Article has references, but no in-text citations" would be {{no footnotes}}. You can find usage help for each those templates if you click on them, but they mostly just say what TJW said. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:41, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

removing or editing photos

Hello, just would like some hints on removal of a photo or its gps location. Thank youThe Active Atheist (talk) 13:32, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello, The Active Atheist, and welcome to the Teahouse. Could you tell us specifically what photo you are trying to change? -- Gestrid (talk) 14:54, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

There are few errors in my page but it's way to hard to find that...

I want to start a new page about Fjackets who is not already in Wikipedia. But every time I upload it, within 4 to 5 minutes it get deleted. What's the issue in it? Linda D. Jewell (talk) 07:30, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Linda D. Jewell. The articles you wrote have been deleted as advertising and you have failed to show that the topic "Fjackets" is notable. Based on a quick Google search, this seems to be a company that just sells knockoff jackets online, so is highly unlikely to be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is a reference work, specifically an encyclopedia. It does not exist for advertising or promotional purposes. There are countless other websites that can be used for such purposes, including Facebook and Twitter. Wikipedia is not among them. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:49, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Cullen328 for the reply, is there any way to make it approve. I didn't want an promotional article to be publish it, I just want people to know about it and this is the best source for that. Linda D. Jewell (talk) 08:00, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

I've merged a new section here. — RainFall 08:07, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Linda, what you really need is a lot of WP:Independent reliable sources that talk about this company. Do you have ten or more newspaper or magazine articles about this company? Do those sources talk about the company, e.g., founding date, sales revenue, profitability, tax reductions/economic development incentives the company negotiated to have their business in a city? If you don't, then the company probably doesn't qualify for an article here.

You probably need to read the WP:BFAQ and the WP:LUC (as well as all of WP:COI, especially the parts about being paid to write an article, if that applies. WhatamIdoing (talk) 09:12, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Enough for an article

Just wondering if I have enough for my article before I submit it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tlanders09/Pacific_Power_Group Tlanders09 (talk) 03:58, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

I didn't submit the article for review I was just looking for some feedback. Can you please undelete the page so I can fix the cites.

Tlanders09 (talk) 04:43, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Tlanders09. It looks like the page was deleted by Fuhghettaboutit because it contained too much copyrighted material from multiple third-party websites. Wikipedia articles are supposed to reflect what is written in independent reliable sources, but the content is supposed to be written in your own words. Simply copying content from another website, and pasting into the article is considered a copyright violation and is never allowed. In some cases, it might be possible to re-word or remove the specific copyright violation rather than deleting the entire article, but that does not seem to be the case here. You can ask Fuhghettaboutit for clarification at User talk:Fuhghettaboutit, but articles deleted for copyright reasons are almost never restored. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:34, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

What is wrong with my page? It has been deleted. Hillier, Parker, May & Rowden

My name is Phil and my friend's name is Harold. He used to work for a company that was very well known in the commercial property world, which was prestigious in his day, and a household name between the wars in the period 1919-1939. I have taken up the interest and I have been enjoying researching the subject. I am not being paid, it is just something I like doing.

I keep having problems with 'editors' who seem to be doing everything they can to make this pleasant pastime difficult for me to follow. I was just about to add a bit more to it, which I got from The Times Digital Archive, but now I can't today because the page has suddenly disappeared. What am I doing wrong?

Philjones573 (talk) 23:44, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

It hasn't suddenly disappeared. As has been explained to you twice, the page was deleted following a deletion discussion here. Regards Exemplo347 (talk) 23:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

For suddenly, read unexpectedly. I am told Wikipedia is not a democracy. I was happy this afternoon because it seemed to me that the argument in favour is strong. The thing I would like to do next is look in the archives of Estates Gazette, where Harold tells me the subject was discussed in detail in almost every issue for 100 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philjones573 (talk • contribs) 00:10, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

The article has been deleted following a Deletion Discussion (as you are aware) due to a lack of Notability. The issues around your proposed article have been discussed at some length and there is no need to revisit that discussion. This isn't the appropriate page for your issue and I won't be replying here again - you should post a very brief summary of your thoughts here and then await a response from an administrator. Exemplo347 (talk) 00:23, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Philjones573. You (and anyone else) are welcome to ask any reasonable question here about editing Wikipedia, and I am sorry that Exemplo347 told you that this is not the appropriate page. It is the appropriate page. I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Userfication, and ask an administrator to restore the article as a draft outside of the main encyclopedia. Then, you can ponder all of the criticisms of the article, take time to research and add sources, and then use the Articles for Creation process that includes review by experienced editors. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:38, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Cullen328 for your helpful suggestion. Yes, please, I would like it as a draft. At the moment it is too wordy and contains quotations that aren't necessary. It can be much more concise and I would like to do that. I was planning to go to the archives of the Estates Gazette and I would like to do that, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philjones573 (talk • contribs) 21:13, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok, now restored and moved to User:Philjones573/sandbox. Nthep (talk) 22:02, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Another question regarding reliable sources - CD booklets

Are booklets of CDs primary sources or secondary sources? And is there a difference if it's from the artists own band, or from another band where he appeared just as a guest? The text is about a musician, not an album or a song. Thanks in advance! Xandra73 (talk) 21:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Xandra73. They would mostly likely be considered a primary source, since, although they may not be written by the artist, they are, to some extent, published by them or with their permission. Even if it is from another band, it's probably not an independent source. For example, it's hard to imagine that they would put out anything unfavorable.

Having said that, it may be sometimes alright to use these, in the same way we use self published social media, as long as they're not used to support a crazy claim. TimothyJosephWood 23:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you TimothyJosephWood. I would mainly use it as proof that the artist participated on this or that album. Xandra73 (talk) 19:58, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Website promotion

Is it possible to promote a website in Wikipedia and how? (74.121.22.10 (talk) 21:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC))

No. See WP:NOT. RudolfRed (talk) 22:32, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

How do I swap web addresses for a link in the reference list in the Paul Harvey article?

How do I swap web addresses for a link in the reference list in the Paul Harvey article? Pediaedit7 (talk) 20:37, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Pediaedit7. Based on your question, I am assuming that the source for the reference is the same, but that the URL (web address) has changed. If so, copy the new URL into your device's clipboard. Then, go to the article. The code that generates the reference is located in the wikicode for the body of the article, right where the reference occurs. Click "Edit" in that section, and find the code that generates the reference. Erase only the old URL, leaving the rest of the coding intact. Paste in the new URL, and save. Check to be sure that the link works properly. You can read a general introduction explaing how to code references at Referencing for beginners. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I just tried to do as you suggested but when I click on "edit source," instead of getting the code for the 48 references in the article, all that's listed is "Reflist | 2" inside two sets of brackets. Pediaedit7 (talk) 21:34, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

You missed where you were told "The code that generates the reference is located in the wikicode for the body of the article, right where the reference occurs. Click "Edit" in that section, and find the code that generates the reference." You need to edit in the body of the article, not in the references section. Again, read WP:REFB. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:41, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks to Cullen328 and David Biddulph for helping me figure out how to swap URLs. Mission accomplished. Pediaedit7 (talk) 17:31, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Setting a page as working (unfinished)

Hi, I've been quite long from editing with wikipedia and Ia made probably a mistake with a page I'm still working. The page I'm working on "Sculpture Park Engelbrecht" is already active, and I still have much more information to add and to correct. Is it possible to set a page as "Sketch" or "Entwurf" untill you manage to get it finished?

Thanks for any help joxo Jjdeav (talk) 18:45, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Jjdeav: yes, you can tag with it with {{stub}} at the bottom of the page to indicate that it is still an early work-in-progress. However, that won't stop it from being nominated for deletion. English Wikipedia has a special area for draft articles (I think this is what you meant by "Entwurf"), where you can work on them in peace and not have to worry so much about such things. You could ask an administrator to move your article to draft space if this sounds good to you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't need an administrator, the editor can move it himself. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:49, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Jjdeav and NinjaRobotPirate A "Stub" tag is not an indication that an article is "under construction", all it actually signifies is that the article is very short. There are thousands of articles tagged as stubs that have not been edited in months or even years. BTW Stub tags should not be used in drafts, only in mainspace articles. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, the under construction tag is actually {{Under construction}}. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:30, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

True enough, but what I'm saying is that a stub tag can help other editors find an article if it has little prose content, no sources, and needs expansion: an early work-in-progress. Most of Sculpture Park Engelbrecht is a table, which doesn't count toward the size according to WP:STUB. Draft space would be the place for an article that has not yet established notability and needs to time to be improved before it's ready to go live. That may be the best place for this article, since it's now been tagged for speedy deletion. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Viewing a page

How can I view my page I created ? I created a page about a 6 weeks ago and has yet to be uploaded? Did it not get approved?Kgainer94 (talk) 18:37, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Kgainer94. Material gets saved to Wikipedia as soon as you click "Save page". There is no upload lag. However, looking at your contribution history, you have made no previous contributions. Did you use another account to create the article? Cordless Larry (talk) 18:47, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. If you are referring to Draft:Simpson, McMahan, Glick & Burford, if you click on the red link you'll see that it was deleted under criterion G11, unambiguous advertising or promotion. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:47, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Ah, so that would explain the lack of a record in Kgainer94's contributions. I would have expected there to be a notification on their talk page, which threw me. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: The bottom of Special:Contributions/Kgainer94 has an "Edit count" link where you can see the number of deleted edits. Only administrators can see their content but in this case, the top of Special:Contributions/Kgainer94 has a "filter log" link you can use. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

citation request question

there is a citation needed request in the family section of the article I wrote. Scott Nute Which part of the statement needs a reference...the never married part, or subjects family, or both? thanks Spacestar7 (talk) 18:17, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome back, Spacestar7. Without knowing exactly what the editor who added that tag had in mind, I would guess that they wanted the whole sentence sourced. Note that Wikipedia:Verifiability states: "All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable. All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material". This is all the more important when the topic is a living person. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

As I have pointed out previously, Spacestar7, Scott Nute relies very heavily on sources which are neither independent nor reliable. Those sources and all content cited to them should be removed from the article promptly. If you do not do so, I intend to. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

How to include an image in the article I am preparing

I would be grateful if someone could give me guidance as to the way of uploading an image onto the article I am making in my userspace. Many thanks. (Dywana (talk) 17:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC))Dywana(Dywana (talk) 17:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Dywana. A lot of times this has to do with where the image you want to use came from, and then whether it's licensed in a way that allows it to be used on Wikipedia. So more detail on the picture would probably help in finding an answer to your question. TimothyJosephWood 18:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Timothy! I want to use a photograph that I took myself. I imagine that it should not be a problem. What do you think? I appreciate your help. I am new to Wikipedia and am trying hard to learn all thew rules. DywanaDywana (talk) 09:14, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Dywana. The easiest way to do that is to upload it to Wikimedia Commons. Once you select which file to upload, click "This file is my own work", and you can agree to release it for public use, which includes Wikipedia. After that, just answer a few questions about the pic, like when it was taken, and describe what it's a picture of, and you're good to go.

Afterward, if you need help with the markup (the computer-code-stuff) to actually put the picture in an article, feel free to ask here or at my talk page and I'll be happy to help you out. TimothyJosephWood 12:08, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

How do I get my article published?

I have a draft of an article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Paul_Travers

But I'm not sure how to make it into an actual article and not just a draft

Adalexander2 (talk) 17:29, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Adalexander2: at the top of the draft, you will see why it was rejected last time it was submitted for conversion to an article, starting "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability." If you submit it again, it will be rejected for the same reason; and if you convert it to an article yourself, it is likely to be deleted altogether. If you want it made into an article, you should start by dealing with the inadequate referencing. Maproom (talk) 21:05, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

orphan image for future use

I'm building a picture gallery for an artists' bio page and it takes time to gather and upload the images. I uploaded one yesterday and was informed it would be deleted in 7 days if I don't link it to an article. Is there a way to create perhaps a draft gallery for future use? I don't think I should just keep adding visuals to the page as inserts. Please advise.

Thanks BlueWind13 (talk) 15:12, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, BlueWind13. Non-free images can only be used in articles, not in drafts. Therefore, the proper time to upload non-free images of artwork is after the article is created and in main space Please note that you must include referenced critical commentary about the works of art. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:28, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

British fashion company needing 'substance' and 'in-depth third-party news sources'

Hi everyone, I identified a British fashion brand that didn't have a page and I've been working on the article https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Draft:Orlebar_Brown however it has been rejected due to a lack of 'substance'. I have included a brief summary, information on products, the history of the brand, information about their online and offline presence (physical shops, infrastructure) and celebrity endorsement but this doesn't seem to be enough. I have included 21 references from notable sources (The Guardian, Telegraph, Economist, Business of Fashion etc). When looking at other brand pages, the articles are so sparse and often so very biased! I'm at a loss as to why my page isn't getting through. It's my first article and I really want to succeed. I'd really appreciate any help/advice. Thanks so much in advance! Aimeliholm (talk) 14:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Aimeliholm. I'll say it's a pretty good start (heckuva lot better than my first article BTW). And good job sticking with it so long, even after four tries at AfC. Most people would have probably given up.

Seems that a Google News search pulls up a metric ton of sources, and I'm seeing coverage in some pretty big names too. So it should be fairly straightforward to beef up the article a little more. I'll start a discussion on the draft talk and we can try to get into more details there. TimothyJosephWood 14:28, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Aimeliholm. The concern is about "notability" rather than substance, and notability has quite a specific meaning on Wikipedia. It requires significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. I haven't checked all of the sources cited in your draft, but I suspect that most of them only mention the subject in passing. What would really help establish notability would be an article or two that provide in-depth discussion about the subject. Note that the drafts process is relatively new, and so many existing articles have not been subject to such stringent review. They are liable for deletion at any time, though, whereas if you draft gets through the review process, deletion is unlikely. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:01, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your message Cordless Larry. Again, I'm confused as the actual comment I received was as follows: "Comment: This is an interesting one because, yes, there are sources listed, but putting aside the ones that are about their business activities such as "expanding" and other activities such as celebrity partnerships, there's still not enough substance; focus with adding news that is in-depth third-party news sources; remember, and I mention this to simply note, no press releases, trivial passing mentions, news about funding or finances or also interviews." So I have understood this as a lack of substance and not a lack of notability. Aimeliholm (talk) 08:41, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

I see, Aimeliholm. The "substance" there refers to the lack of depth of coverage in the sources. Significant coverage (not just the odd mention) is required to demonstrate notability. That's why I suggested that you try to find a source that is focused mainly on Orlebar Brown (as opposed to an article discussing several designers, one of which is Orlebar Brown). Cordless Larry (talk) 08:44, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Actually, looking at the article's first source, there is some good coverage there. I would try to make more use of that source in the article, Aimeliholm. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:48, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Open text and plagiarism

Hello teahouse. I remain puzzled as to why external text, released under a wikipedia-compliant license, cannot be simply cut-and-pasted into an article, along with a suitable {{CC-notice}} or similar. After all, the original author invited its use in this way by adding the appropriate license. And as a wikipedia article is not owned by anyone (as per WP:OWNERSHIP), no one is passing off the new material as their own. But wikipedia still maintains the more restrictive line that "public-domain content is plagiarized if used without acknowledging the source" (Wikipedia:Plagiarism § Copying material from free sources). What is the rational behind this policy? It seems unnecessarily prohibitive. Best regards. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 13:47, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello, RobbieIanMorrison, and welcome to the Teahouse. The policy you have linked to does not say that material under a Wikipedia-compliant license or in public domain cannot be simply cut-and-pasted into an article and attributed using a suitable attribution template. In fact, it says you should do exactly that. Use an attribution template whether you are copy-pasting a freely-licensed or public domain text:

Attribution for compatibly licensed text can be provided through the use of an appropriate attribution template ...

Likewise

If [public domain] text is copied or closely paraphrased from a free source, it must be cited and attributed through the use of an appropriate attribution template

. Why this should be done with public domain text as well is because the term "plagiarism" extends beyond strictly copyright considerations and includes such issues as moral rights and good practices in publishing.

Naturally, it's also a good idea to disclose your source because of verifiablity reasons. If you attribute your addition, you will not be accused of input based on original research that Wikipedia does not allow. The policy you have linked to advises to use inline citations even for copy-pasted free material.

Just of note, WP:OWNERSHIP is a bit of a red herring. Indeed content on Wikipedia is copyrighted to Wikipedia contributors, who each agree to license it under Wikipedia's licensing terms upon release, and those terms require others to attribute them. In that sense, we do pass off new material as ours. That's why when third parties reuse Wikipedia material, we require them to link back to the article (and hence its page history that includes the list of contributors). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:23, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Finnusertop: Thanks for the comprehensive reply. It goes a long way to answering my question. I have a specific case though. Material from a news blog I wish to utilize is released under a CC BY 4.0. I take it I can exactly copy the text or close paraphrase it or more extensively modify it. And all I need to do is add a {{CC-notice}} notice to the end of the citation as follows:

References

Am I correct in this? Look forward to your reply and best regards. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 20:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, RobbieIanMorrison, that looks all good to me. There are a few additional steps you can take, but that are not necessary, that are outlined in the policy. Namely, it might be a good idea to first copy and paste the material you want to use unmodified, and make any modifications in separate edits. For that initial edit, in addition to the CC notice template, you can write in the edit summary something like: "Copied content by Kerstine Appunn: https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/comparing-old-and-new-changes-germanys-renewable-energy-act (CC BY 4.0)".

As far as I know, requiring indication about whether changes were made is not part of the license in question, so doing this is optional. A stricter interpretation would be that by requiring this, they are licensing their text under a custom license, and this additional limitation may or may not make it a free license. I wouldn't worry about that though; based on some conversations I've had over files, I'd probably conclude that this is not a copyright limitation (certainly does not amount to no-derivatives), and we are not concerned with limitations like that. There is, of course, nothing wrong with stating that changes were made. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:53, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Finnusertop: Hello and thank you for your considered response. I will be doing as you suggest. Here is the renewable energy article I am working on. Your help is much appreciated. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 22:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

You are welcome, RobbieIanMorrison. The article looks great; I hope to see it in mainspace soon! Using freely licensed material is a very good thing. I'm glad you chose to do it despite it being, admittedly, sometimes a bit difficult to navigate. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:13, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, RobbieIanMorrison, Finnusertop, but I've only just seen this. I'm afraid that what's been said above is not correct; CC BY 4.0 is unfortunately not a compatible licence here. Text released under that licence may not be copied into Wikipedia, and any content that has been so copied is a copyvio and must be removed immediately. What's been said above would apply to text released under a CC BY SA 3.0 licence, though, which is what Wikipedia uses. This is a confusing issue that's going to keep coming up, I'm afraid; there's some discussion here which may shed a little light. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:48, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: you are incorrect. CC BY 4.0 is compatible, see the table at WP:COMPLIC. CC BY SA 4.0, on the other hand, would not be. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:53, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

@Finnusertop: @Justlettersandnumbers: Hello. I note that the {{CC-notice}} template also allows the parameter value cc = by4. So it seems that support for CC BY 4.0 is quite deeply coded into wikipedia. It looks like a high-level resolution is needed for this question and the appropriate support documents and templates amended as required. I won't make my draft live for another three weeks and will watch this traffic accordingly. Regards. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 14:23, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

@Finnusertop: @Justlettersandnumbers: Hello again. More discussion at Wikipedia talk:FAQ/Copyright#CC-BY 4.0 compatibility?. That thread is however not 100% conclusive. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 22:46, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Have no idea what I'm doing and need help for a worthwhile non-profit

Need help?

I am trying to help a non-profit that represents more than 20,000 get into Wikipedia. Because it is new it doesn't have a lot fo external press yet, but it represents the first real organization battling online fraud, specifically Romance Scams in the world. If you look at their website www.AgainstRomanceScams.org you can see that they are substantial. They have members from 20 countries, and are putting up educational billboards in South East Asia. This is very real, but as I said, almost nothing in the press yet.

You will find the post in the Drafts under Society of Citizens Against Romance Scams Inc. They are being mentored by MADD, that wasn't much when they started either. People are literally killing themselves over these scams, so I am hoping a more skilled editor can help?

Thank you John Romancescamsnow (talk) 13:14, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, but we pretty much rely only on external press, and their affiliations with notable organizations does not result in notability either. existence is not the standard, notability is. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey John. Unfortunately, it seems the best way you can help at this point is to keep a keen eye out for coverage by secondary sources. You are right that sometimes a thing seems obviously notable, but Wikipedia has to wait for the sources to "catch up" and actually write a bit about it. That's just the way it works out sometimes, since Wikipedia has to rely on these sources.

The draft seems like a really good start though. You may want to look into setting up a google alert so you can be notified when something is published about the organization. TimothyJosephWood 13:52, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok, that is what we will have to do.

Thank you all for the guidance.

Will the draft remain accessible so that it can be resubmitted later?

John

Romancescamsnow (talk) 14:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

A new article from whole cloth is among the more difficult projects, as it calls for knowledge that most of us build up by improving many old articles. Easier, perhaps, to get a single sentence into an existing article, for example Romance scam with a link to a source that mentions the organization. This might attract the attention of more experienced editors with similar interests who can provide more precisely relevant help. Jim.henderson (talk) 14:42, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

John, the draft at Draft:Society of Citizens Against Romance Scams Inc. may be nominated for speedy deletion if and when it hasn't been edited for more than six months. You will get a notification around the five-months mark. Editing the draft once in a while will postpone nomination for deletion. — Sam Sailor ^Talk! 14:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Again² welcome

Hi 3rd time again. How can i load my User:FxdhMxdh/massrollback.js and User:FxdhMxdh/IP.js. Because maybe nothing happen after this.– i'm FxdhMxdh (talk) 11:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi again, FxdhMxdh. Scripts are installed by loading them in your common.js or your skin script file; you can read more on WP:SCRIPTS. I can tell that User:FxdhMxdh/massrollback.js is a copy paste of User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js without mentioning its origin. Since your account is 6 days old and you don't have WP:ROLLBACK I doubt this will work. I'd advise not playing around with this. — Sam Sailor ^Talk! 13:36, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

help me i has multiple accounts

help me i has multiple accounts i want delete or close my all multiple accounts User:Osama chandio my orginal account is blocked as sockpupet39.38.58.83 (talk) 08:36, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

• Hi. Read Wp:Sock first. On other hand, in wikipedia we have nothing to delete accounts, the way is you can stop using your previous accounts, and open your master account "User:Osama chandio" and wait some time, then place this template in your talk page: {{unblock|1=Insert your reason to be unblock here}}. And if your talkpage access was revoked just make unblock request at http://utrs.wmflabs.org . Thank you.– i'm FxdhMxdh (talk) 10:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Signature problem

When I try to use the following as my signature: <span style="border:1px solid #0072BC;padding:1px;">[[User:The_Pancake_of_Heaven!|<span style="color:#0072BC;padding-left:1px;">The Pancake</span>]] [[User_talk:The_Pancake_of_Heaven!|<span style="color:#fff;background:#0072BC;"> of Heaven! </span>]]</span> (The Pancake  of Heaven! ) It says Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags. Could someone please show me the right code for the signature? Thanks -- The Pancakeof Heaven! 04:06, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

That's 257 characters. According to WP:SIGLEN, the software truncates signatures to 255 characters. Lose a few characters, and it should work. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:36, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Is there a way to create a category named "House" instead of "Family" in an infobox?

Question 1: The InfoboxPerson does not have an option for "House" as seen here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II in the infobox about Queen Elizabeth. Is there a way to code the Infobox so I can use the alternative to "Family" namely, "House"? Wikieditor4hire (talk) 02:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Wikieditor4hire: I think you would use {{infobox royalty}} for that information. By the way, your user name gives the impression that you're performing paid editing. I see Ian.thomson has already posted information your talk page about this, but it bears repeating: you must publicly disclose such edits, preferably on your user page. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

multiple issues with new article

I finished my first article, it was accepted but with "multiple" issues that I don't really understand. There is no conflict of interest and I am not a paid editor. In the article I used references and cites from many sources and wrote just facts found online, in newspapers, and many bits of info in the subjects biography written by someone else. Can someone help me with my first article please and tell me specifics of what needs to be done to the article to have the "multiple issues" removed. Here is the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Nute , sorry, I put wrong link before, Spacestar7 (talk) 20:51, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

You can link by using double brackets, [[Scott Nute]] produces Scott Nute. It's easier than the external link. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:41, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't see an immediately obvious reason why it was tagged with {{autobiography}} and {{COI}}. Justlettersandnumbers was the one who tagged it. The article's talk page would probably be the best place to discuss this, but maybe we can get an explanation here. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:57, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Spacestar7. When you say that you have no conflict of interest, are you telling us that you have no close relationship with Scott Nute? As for the book length biography about Nute that you cited nearly 40 times, it may have been written by someone else, but it was published by Nute's ministry so it is neither a reliable source nor an independent source. There are several other references to sources controlled by Nute and his ministry which have similar problems. In my opinion, the article should be cut back dramatically, summarizing only what sources that are 100% reliable and independent of Nute say about him. That would allow a fair assessment of whether or not Nute is actually notable. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:33, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate, I tagged the page as an autobiography because it was started by an editor (Scott Nute) with the same name as the subject. The COI is patently obvious, whether or not the subsequent SPA is the same editor who started the page. Other problems I see with the page are:

• excessive reliance on self-published sources; specifically, as Cullen328 so rightly points out, a book published by "Scott Nute Global Ministries" cannot be a reliable source by our standards
• peacock language, exactly as expected in a (self-)promotional COI article ("founder of the worldwide evangelistic ministry, Scott Nute Global Ministries" – what is the independent reliable source for this? Is it really "world-wide" – are we really sure that that organisation is active in Yemen? Saudi Arabia? Oman? Fiji? The Turks and Caicos Islands?)
• at least some of the images appear to be copyvios (one looks like a scan from a newspaper clipping)

I've just no idea why anyone would accept this kind of tripe as a Wikipedia article; RegistryKey, can you tell us why you chose to ignore the obvious and severe problems here and publish this? I'm away from home atm, but I suggest that unless this is quickly moved back to draft space it's likely to go to AfD (where it will probably survive because of our laughable notability requirements for sports people). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:57, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

In theory, AfD can delete articles that, although notable, meet any other WP:DEL-REASON. These include the (rather vaguely put) "Articles that breach Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons", which may apply in this case. In practice, I've never seen a notable article being deleted in AfD.– Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:06, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

The article was different when I accepted it for creation. As it reads now, the peacocking is readily apparent, plus the misidentification of minor-league teams as their major-league counterparts is concerning as well. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 22:18, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Justlettersandnumbers, please be aware that Scott Nute pitched two, count 'em, two games in the very lowest level of minor league professional baseball. There is no way under the sun that he meets our notability guideline for athletes. I very much doubt that this BLP would suvive an AfD on that basis. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:54, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

How do I submit brand new content about a notable individual?

I want to start a new page about a notable individual who is not already in Wikipedia. The submission would include their basic biography, early life, career, etc. How do I do that?

Amanda Bennett Abgr8ful (talk) 20:29, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Abgr8ful. There are instructions for new editors on creating an article at Wikipedia:Your first article. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:32, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Notability Of A Musician

This article by Koker is it not notable? as it is said on WP:MUSICBIO "That if it's meet one of it criteria it is said to be notable" can somebody help me tell this admin's who have been making me look like i am a fool, like Wikipedia now lie's about it's policy that makes an artist notable... The article meet's 4 criteria of WP:MUSICBIO and it's has been subject of notable newspapers and magazine since he rise to stardom in 2015..--Obari2Kay (talk) 13:41, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Obari2Kay. A debate about whether Koker is notable according to Wikipedia's criteria is taking place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Koker (musician). That's the place to make these arguments - which I see you have already done. It is not a good idea to accuse other editors of lying without providing strong evidence of this. Please also note that any editor can start a deletion discuss, not just admins. I am interested in your comment that the article is by Koker. Has it been written by him? Cordless Larry (talk) 14:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Talk page archive

I read the archive bot pages. I want that discussions on my talk page to be archived automatically after 4 days. Someone do that please. Thanks Marvellous Spider-Man (talk) 10:23, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

You could do it yourself using {{Setup auto archiving}}. I use 30 days myself. — Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:17, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

User:Sam Sailor What about the size limit and notice=yes? --Marvellous Spider-Man (talk) 11:29, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

150k size seems sensible enough, but you could set it to 200 or 250; I can't think of a good reason to set it to less than 150, but it's up to you. The |notice= is set to yes if you want to display {{Auto archiving notice}}, I'd leave out, but again, it's up to you. — Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:36, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

@Sam Sailor: The notice above my talk page has last line as Sections without timestamps are not archived. Which sections don't have timestamp? Marvellous Spider-Man (talk) 11:44, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Looks like they all have timestamps. — Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:46, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi again

Hi again. Where we find "Undo" button in mobile device wikipedia?– i'm FxdhMxdh (talk) 09:42, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi FxdhMxdh. I sometimes use Wikipedia on my mobile phone so according to my experience there's no undo button on m.wikipedia.org it is available on www.wikipedia.org (without "m"). You may need to turn on desktop view on your mobile browser. Hope I helped :) — RainFall 16:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, FxdhMxdh. I agree with RainFall. I edit extensively on Android smartphones and almost always use the desktop site because it gives me full functionality. You may find my essay Smartphone editing to be of interest. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:35, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

@Cullen328 and RainFall: I use wikipedia from my android device, and when i want to undo someones edit, i remove "m." From url or just click at desktop at the last of every page. And even twinkle cannot load on mobile. I agree with both Cullen and Rainfall. Thank you.– i'm FxdhMxdh (talk) 04:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Adding our group to list of Animal Welfare groups

Hi I am just wondering how I can add our group- Animal Aid Abroad based in Western Australia, Australia to your Wikipedia page where you have a list of Animal Welfare Groups? Hope you can help Thanks Janet Thomas Founder Animal Aid Abroad www.animalaidabroad.org Animal Aid Abroad (talk) 08:41, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Animal Aid Abroad, just click the edit button in the top, and then add the name of your welfare group in the list and provide reference of your website like this:<ref>https://www.animalaidabroad.org</ref>. And then click the save button. After this, refresh the page and see your welfare name!– i'm FxdhMxdh (talk) 08:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi AAA. You will need to create an account that is not the name of your organisation as these type of names will be deleted. You will also have to consider that you have a conflict of interest and act on advice in this linked guideline. You will need to provide independent published sources to show that the organisation exists and is notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.Charles (talk) 09:15, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your help.

I think I may have to go back to the drawing board on this ..just listing our group will just get us deleted I think.Animal Aid Abroad (talk) 10:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

question

can i upload pictures from flicker to an article?Justheretohelpu2 (talk) 06:21, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello @Justheretohelpu2:, and welcome to Wikipedia. You have to upload the images to Commons first, before you can use them in an article. Some advice about this aspect can be found at Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr. Uploading a Flickr-image is usually OK, if the image is "Public domain" or has been released under a free license (see linked info) by a credible uploader. If you are unsure about a specific image, you can always ask for specific advice at WP:MCQ or Commons:Commons:Village pump/Copyright. Please make sure to provide a link to the original image in such questions. GermanJoe (talk) 10:31, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Logging into and linking between various WP platforms?

I've been around around WP a while, but only doing tiny things like Talk Page questions and grammar correction, nothing big, nothing technical. So -

1. My ID appears redlined in the other WP platforms (Wikimedia Commons, Wikibooks, Wiktionary, etc). Do I need to join each site separately? If so, should I use the same user name?

2. I want to link a Wikimedia Commons image to a TP entry, but can't find information on how to cross-link the various WP platforms. Neither the square braces nor the curly braces work.

Thank you for your time and help, Wordreader (talk) 03:42, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, you have to create your own User page on each site even though you can use the same username and password.

As for linking, try Help:Interwikimedia links for instructions.  —jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wordreader. No, you do not need to join these projects separately. We have unified login and once you are logged in here and visit another project your account should be automatically logged in unless there was a pre-existing account by the same username that the software could not reconcile as the same account by the same authenticated email addresses. What I expect you are seeing is your logged in username in red but all that means is that you have not created a page at your username there—just as your account name here was a red link until you created your userpage. As to your second question, I don't know what a "TP entry" is, but commons images should work natively at other Wikimedia projects, just as they do here. Is "TP" a Wikimedia project?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:52, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Erm, if "TP" is just short for talk page, are you sure you aren't missing some markup? Like forgetting to place File: at the beginning? Can you specify what project you're having this difficulty at and what markup you used?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:03, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wordreader. As Fuhghettaboutit correctly said, no, you don't have to join separately. You could start by attaching all non-incubated projects by going to Meta:Special:Blankpage/globalsul and press start. Then create your Meta user page in Meta:User:Wordreader, it will become your user page on any wiki where you don't have a local user page, and you will no longer be red-linked.

Images on talk pages: use e.g. [[:File:Cape Canary (Serinus canicollis) 1.jpg]] to just link to an image. If you take away the first ":" in front of file, you will be displaying the image. — Sam Sailor ^Talk! 06:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Orphan article from translation

Some people asked me to translate the French article fr:Castellanus into English. The notability of the article should be OK since the French article has plenty of references (in English mainly). However since I do not know how the Meteorology project works in English, I am hesitating to hyperlink the article to existing articles. My plan is first to produce my translation in my user space, ask someone to review my English and then transfer the article into the namespace. However I would prefer to limit the number of hyperlinks to this new article since I am a newbie and I do not want to be blocked because my bad understanding of the rules. Is it acceptable to have an orphan article with plenty of interwikis? I would appreciate the help. Thanks. Malosse (talk) 01:39, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Malosse. You do not need to be concerned about wikilinking in your translated article as long as you do not overlink. I assure you that no administrator would block you over such a minor issue. As for orphan status, that can be corrected easily by adding a link to the new article from articles like List of cloud types, to state an obvious possibility. See WP:TRANSLATE for more general information, including the requirement to attribute the French Wikipedia source article properly. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:26, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

How to add article to a WikiProject

I was looking at an article and I was thinking that it should be added to a WikiProject. How might I go ahead with doing that? Verified Cactus (talk) 00:41, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

You do this by adding the template for the WikiProject to the Talk page for the article.  —jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:50, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

What template might that be? Verified Cactus (talk) 00:58, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

VerifiedCactus, look at the page for the specific WikiProject, which will provide a template for that purpose. If you mention a specific project, we can give you a specific answer. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

@VerifiedCactus: the way I figured it out was to look at the edit source view of the talk page of an article that I knew was part of the WikiProject of interest and imitated what I found there. Most of the project templates take parameters that indicate the quality or importance of the article, from the project's point of view.  —jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello, VerifiedCactus. If you want to have a point-and-click solution for adding the template, you can check out the Rater script. Just be sure to read the page completely before using it. -- MorbidEntree - _{(Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)}(please reply using {{ping}}) 10:49, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Need a template to mark external link

the link does not contain what the article says it does, or only a portion of it. deisenbe (talk) 14:17, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

deisenbe, the template you used, {{dead}} is the correct template for marking dead links, but is usually used in references and not the external links section. See guidance at WP:ELDEAD. If an archived or updated version of the site cannot be found, the external link should usually just be removed from the article. TimothyJosephWood 14:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

The above does not address my concern. It's not that the link is dead, it's a poor quality reference that needs to be improved. deisenbe (talk) 00:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Deisenbe, sounds more like you are looking for {{Failed verification|reason=Justification|talk=Section name|date=December 2024}} that will display like . If not, please be more specific. More examples of copy-paste ready inline templates are found at User:Sam Sailor/Boilerplates/Templates#Inline maintenance. — Sam Sailor ^Talk! 02:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Would Template:Failed verification express what you need? You can add a reason= flag to explain more exactly what's wrong.  —jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:18, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Sam Sailor: Sorry about that, we clearly overlapped in both our suggestion and our typing time. I didn't see your suggestion until after mine had posted, at which time I was willing to leave well enough alone. I would have expected to be notified of an edit conflict.

Deisenbe, another template that might be used is Template:Better source.  —jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Blocked user's signature

Is it okay to use a blocked user's signature (with my name, of course) that has been blocked indefinitely and doesn't seem like he/she will come back? Thanks -- The Pancakeof Heaven! 03:30, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@The Pancake of Heaven!: Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm going to assume you mean using a blocked user's design and then work your username into it. It's not like signatures are trademarked, so it's perfectly fine to use. Zappa24Mati 03:53, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! -- The Pancakeof Heaven! 03:54, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

A friendly observation, The Pancake of Heaven: Human nature being what it is, please consider the possibility that a signature that reminds experienced editors of a disruptive editor may draw unwanted scrutiny to your own edits. The decision is yours, but please think about my comment. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:58, 8 August 2016 (UTC)