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August 30

01:28:49, 30 August 2016 review of draft by Eurydice2016


How do I highlight or mark the "notable" names and entries that are found within Wikipedia? I tried entering the first web address for James Dwight Dana, but instead of his name showing up as a blue link, an arrow to the link appeared. Please advise. This is my first submission to Wikipedia and I am trying to learn how to do it. Eurydice2016 (talk) 01:28, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Answered at Wikipedia:Help desk#How to insert hyperlinks to Wiki pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

06:28:39, 30 August 2016 review of submission by 2604:2000:E016:A700:354B:B296:1058:7227


First, the reviewer was way too involved and emotional (he even attacked me, apparently confused, accusing me of misrepresenting ... when that was obviously not true).

Then, after this long discussion, with his accusation, he decides he is the one to review (and decline) the page?

This leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Why should I try to contribute if people act like this?

See our discussion.

On the talk page of that article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Temtchine

And on his talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:David.moreno72#Hi

Can someone who is not involved, and is not a buddy of his who chats on his talk page, please take an honest third party look? That would be a step forward.

This is not a very good way to get people to believe the goal is working together.

Welcome, 2604:2000:E016:A700:354B:B296:1058:7227. You are correct that a disambiguation page may include a red link, so long as an article also includes that red link. You are also correct that Dummy (film) and Villalobos Brothers link to Richard Temtchine. So it's okay for a disambiguation page to include a link to Richard Temtchine.
However, Temtchine is not, and should not be, a disambiguation page. Chloe Temtchine, Richard Temtchine, and Sybil Temtchine require no disambiguation. A disambiguation page would be in order if the entries were something like: Richard Temtchine, Richard Temtchine (chemist), Richard Temtchine (politician), Rich Temtchine, Dick Temtchine. Instead Temtchine is a set index article, which is explicitly not a disambiguation page, so rules for red links on disambiguation pages don't apply to it. Entries must follow list inclusion criteria. Generally that means entries must have pre-existing articles, although some editors will accept a red link so long as it is backed up by inline citations to three in-depth, independent, reliable sources. Such sources prove that the entry is notable even if it doesn't have a Wikipedia article yet. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:16, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks World.

First - can you please talk to the editor who kept on insisting that what you said is not true? About red links in such pages. That would be very helpful. Because otherwise he will be treating other people this way. Read his talk page for our discussion.

Second - if you take the guy's first name, Richard, there is a page called Richard with lots of people named Richard. Who have different last names.

Are you saying those pages are ok. They just have to be called a different name? Like here, Temtchine? And not called a disambiguation page? They are all over wikipedia.

Third, I did give sources for the red links. But that is not acceptable on those pages I was told. The sources were [1][2][3]</ref> But that same editor who said a red link is not ok on a disambiguation page, and who deleted everything only because he misunderstood that- which was only about one name on the list, also deleted all the footnotes. Leaving nothing. What he did was not nice and did not seem to be him trying to work together with me.2604:2000:E016:A700:858A:BC30:5139:68A8 (talk) 03:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@2604:2000:E016:A700:354B:B296:1058:7227: The sources you supplied fail to prove notability. The New York Times is trivial coverage, essentially a cast and crew list. IMDB is user-generated, and thus not a reliable source. The New York Observer is an interview. To the extent that it is Temtchine talking about Temtchine, it is not independent and cannot show notability. Whether the interviewer provides enough analysis to treat a portion of it as an independent secondary source is open to debate, but even if part of it contributes to establishing notability, a single source is never enough to demonstrate notability. So I've removed Richard Temtchine from the set index article Temtchine.
If you would like to know more about articles, lists, set index articles, and disambiguation pages, I recommend:
--Worldbruce (talk) 15:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

16:28:02, 30 August 2016 review of submission by Richard3120

Hi, the above draft article was started and then abandoned in 2013 by a long-since departed editor – I've taken it upon myself to update it and add reliable sources, and I believe it is now in a position to be reviewed and moved to mainspace if accepted. I've never done this before, so is there anything else I need to do? I would also add that I believe that the article title should be changed: "Festival Estéreo Picnic" is the official name in Spanish, so it should be anglicised to "Estéreo Picnic Festival" or simply "Estéreo Picnic", its common name. Thanks.

Richard3120 (talk) 16:28, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard3120: You can move it from Draft:Festival Estéreo Picnic to Draft:Estéreo Picnic or whatever name you think best fits with policy Wikipedia:Article titles. To submit the draft for review, add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft. There's a considerable backlog, so it could be several weeks before someone reviews it. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:46, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Worldbruce – the backlog isn't an issue because it'll be a couple of months before the press even start talking about the 2017 festival, so the article isn't going to change much in the meantime... I can make alterations at leisure to it. Richard3120 (talk) 22:15, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Edit: hang on, I've just found that another editor has independently recently created Estereo Picnic Festival (no WikiProject tags, so it wasn't easy to find). So what I'll do is copy my changes across to that article as it is already in mainspace, and then put the draft up for deletion. Thanks for your help, anyway. Richard3120 (talk) 22:26, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

August 31

05:37:09, 31 August 2016 review of submission by Faridahmadi.itp

In all due respect I am Farid Ahmadi from Kabul, Afghanistan and want to be Wikipedia editor. I am known as a IT expert around Kabul and people are coming to me when the experience any online streaming issues. They came to me because I am having direct contact with Facebook and Instagram to help people in Afghanistan, I am working for government, non government, high or low profile people.

Many requests are coming to me from public figures, Radio and TV journalists, movie stars, singers, and high profile people that asks me to write about the on Wikipedia. I have written five articles on Wikipedia, but unfortunately the Wikipedia team has deleted all of them. the all had good sources, and the correct information. the only problem was the most of the sources are in Dari our local language not in English, I hope that wont be a problem.

I really need your help as an expert team to improve myself and to be a good Wikipedia writer. Thanks for your consideration

Best, Farid Ahmadi Kabul, Afghanistan

Faridahmadi.itp (talk) 05:37, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Farid. It's fantastic that you want to help contribute to Wikipedia. However, you've given yourself a difficult task to start with. Writing new articles from scratch requires a good knowledge of Wikipedia, its markup language and its many policies and guidelines. For that reason we recommend that new editors practice improving existing articles for a while before embarking on their first new one, and then use the Article wizard, which will take you through the process and first submit your article as a draft for an experienced editor to the review. I see you've done that for your most recent attempt – which is great. Draft:Fahim Tokhi has not been deleted, it's just not ready to be published yet. You should read the comment the reviewer left, try to improve the draft, and then re-submit it for review.
Your first efforts were deleted not because of the lack of sources (sources in Dari or any other language are absolutely fine), or because the information was incorrect, but because the community judged that the topics were not notable. Wikipedia does not have articles about anyone and everything, it only covers people and things that have already been written about extensively in third party sources, and are considered particularly "noteworthy" or "remarkable" within their field.
In addition, there is a problem in that if you are writing articles about people you know, at their request and/or on their behalf then you may have a conflict of interest. Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy strongly discourages editors from writing about people they have a personal or professional connection with.
I hope that helps. Joe Roe (talk) 14:11, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 09:33:31, 31 August 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Desmond011



Desmond011 (talk) 09:33, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have a few comments. An unregistered editor removed the AFC decline notice. AFC decline notices should not be removed while a draft is in progress. (They are removed automatically by a script when the draft is accepted.) Maybe the unregistered editor didn't notice the instructions not to remove the decline template. I have restored the decline notice. Also, the quality of the English in the translated article is not very good. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:00, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

September 1

Request on 08:15:39, 1 September 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by 223.104.177.243



223.104.177.243 (talk) 08:15, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The only references that you have provided are the company's own in three languages, which is not independent coverage. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:23, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 09:01:01, 1 September 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Ksanjida


This submission's references does not adequately show the subject's notability. It needs more coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. and needs substance for established independent notability. Ksanjida (talk) 09:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

13:06:51, 1 September 2016 review of submission by Destructo84


I am unsure what other coverage is needed since I have submitted with numerous independent reliable sources which are the same as other network management software companies. I don't know how many are expected then since companies like Solarwinds reliable sources links don't even exist. When you click on them to verify it leads to a page not found, 404 error, etc. The company Entuity is mentioned by Bloomberg, Yahoo Finance, eWeek, The Business Journals, Techworld, EMA, Marketwired, Infoworld, Networkworld and there are independent studies behind a paywall that can be referenced as well. I am never given a clear answer as to what is needed.

Destructo84 (talk) 13:06, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The draft is Draft:Entuity. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a connection with the company? Robert McClenon (talk) 13:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

23:14:43, 1 September 2016 review of submission by 223.104.177.151


223.104.177.151 (talk) 23:14, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply] 

The page about Luke Shen-Tien Chi was reject the third time. I believe he has enough significant resource for a approval. Who can reconsider?
The draft is Draft:Luke Shen-Tien Chi. The draft states that he is the founder of a field of study, but the name of the field of study is simply a neologism; the study of spoken communication has been a field of scholarship since ancient times. The draft provides no actual evidence that he has made any notable contributions to scholarship. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:34, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

September 2

Request on 02:33:05, 2 September 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by ZEIBUNISHA



SZ SWARTZ (talk) 02:33, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The draft has no content. It is only a question. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:37, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

13:39:26, 2 September 2016 review of submission by Harryhyett


I cannot understand why the page is being contested. It follows all the guidances that I've read about. I've even added 6 more sources are requested. Can you please tell me exactly why the page is being deleted while similar company pages are fine. The speedy deletion request bares no reason. As the guidelines it outlines are not remotely true for the page created.

Harryhyett (talk) 13:39, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your question has to do with multiple pages. The first, shown above, is Draft:mp3TrueEdit in draft space. It has been declined. You created it after a previous page in article space was speedy-deleted, evidently as containing nothing but a link to the web site (which is not sufficient). You have also, after your draft was declined, created a new page in article space, Mp3trueedit. Creating a page in article space while you have a page in draft space would seem tendentious to a reviewer, and might be seen as an effort to game the system. I disagree with the speedy deletion nomination of the page in article space, but I don't think it should be in article space, and think it could be nominated for deletion. The real problem is that the sources don't appear to be independent. Please do not create multiple copies of pages on the same subject. It doesn't increase the likelihood of acceptance, and it annoys the community. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:46, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

14:40:27, 2 September 2016 review of submission by 24.38.227.246

Why was my article submission declined? I do need help in formatting it correctly! Thank you, Doug 24.38.227.246 (talk) 14:40, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only edit that you have made from this IP address, and you didn't identify the declined draft. Please identify the declined draft. Please also consider creating an account so that you will have a more stable edit history. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:48, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

16:56:00, 2 September 2016 review of submission by Serbianboy

I created firstly the article, then it was deleted. Afterwards, I submitted it for a review and I was declined for the reasons mentioned in the article. The organisation is very relevant in Serbia and active in working on high level diplomacy and there are numerous references in media. Can you help me in editing it to become good?VuXman talk 16:56, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You created three copies of the article. The first was Centre for Contemporary Politics, in article space. It was deleted as promotional. Then you created Draft: Centre for Contemporary Politics. It was declined for notability reasons. It also has too many redlinks. Then you created User:Serbianboy/sandbox, which is almost identical to the declined draft. Which version do you want to work on? Creating multiple copies of drafts does not increase your likelihood of acceptance, but annoys the reviewers. Both the sandbox and the version in draft space have too many redlinks. Which version do you want to work on? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:17, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They are the same versions. I would like to work on the one that is in my sandbox.VuXman talk 12:23, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have requested that the version in draft space be deleted to make way for the version in your sandbox. Both versions have too many redlinks. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:35, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

September 3

01:51:40, 3 September 2016 review of submission by Mattyh10


Hi Robert, I messaged you before, but got no reply. I made the changes you suggested for the Chiaki Hara page so I was wondering what was happening? Regards, M

You need to resubmit your draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:36, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

20:34:22, 3 September 2016 review of submission by Mc twizzle

First article - hoping to have it approved. Lots of sources and connections to existing Wiki articles. Mc twizzle (talk) 20:34, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't yet submitted your draft article. It has external links in the article body. They are not permitted. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:38, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

21:25:48, 3 September 2016 review of submission by Steveschuff


Why was my article about Stevedore Skye declined?

Steveschuff (talk) 21:25, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft has no references. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:39, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Steveschuff. David.moreno72 explained why in his message to you on your talk page, and on the top of the draft itself:
The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.
Basically, your article has no references, so readers have no way checking that any of it is true. Another problem is that there is nothing to indicate that Skye meets the notability criteria for musicians. Wikipedia does not include articles about everyone and everything, so you need to provide (multiple) references independent of Skye and his work that show he is particularly noteworthy. Joe Roe (talk) 21:42, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

September 4

07:38:36, 4 September 2016 review of submission by NgYShung Ace-bag


Ace-bag (talk) 07:38, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 08:01:20, 4 September 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Augustinemwendwa


Hi, I humbly request for assistance for the above named draft. I have done the best i can and given out the best output for it. I have done comparison with other novelist's Wikipedia pages and i think it is even better. Inform me what more can be done please. Thanks

Augustinemwendwa (talk) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

16:47:42, 4 September 2016 review of submission by Fuzzylaura


Hi, my colleagues from the Antarctic museum of Siena uploaded some informations about Laura Crispini for wikibomb event. The first draft has been rejected, the second is under review. How could I help the editing of my profile? May I add or send informations ? Thanks Laura

Welcome, Fuzzylaura. The possibility of a Wikipedia article about yourself may seem exciting at first, but don't pay it too much attention. A scientist's best path to being included here is to do great research and publish the results. Doing excellent work will result in real-world recognition, and eventually in a biography.
Wikipedia strongly discourages writing about yourself. If you notice errors or major omissions in the draft, suggest changes on the draft's talk page instead of editing the draft directly. See the following for more information:
If you want to contribute to Wikipedia, and have the time, try improving articles in your area of expertise. For example, we have a fairly good article on plate techtonics, but our articles on other types of tectonics are not so good. There also may be articles on the Italian Wikipedia in Categoria:Geologia that could use improvement. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:20, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

20:38:25, 4 September 2016 review of submission by Verity (the retired Prof)


I submitted a new page on Anil Kashyap on August 29, 2016 and it was rejected for not meeting Wikipedia's minimum citation standards (evidently I had too many in-line links and not enough references). I spent a day fixing it and resubmitted it on August 30, 2016. I understand that it may be too soon to have a decision on it, but what worries me is that I only see the August 29th submission. This is the first entirely new page I have created and I am afraid that I did something wrong and the revised page did not get submitted at all.

Thanks for your help. (PS- there is no "Save page" button referenced in your instructions -- only a "Save changes" button which I assume is the one to use.)

Verity (the retired Prof) (talk) 20:38, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Verity (the retired Prof). Not to worry – your draft has been submitted, you can see the template at the bottom of the page. It may take some time, though, as there's a large backlog on the moment.
While you wait you might want to improve the referencing further as I'm afraid I think it's unlikely to be accepted as is. External links should not be used in the text at all (see MOS:LINK) so they should be removed completely. More importantly, the whole draft is very thin on references. You have some very specific biographical info in there (e.g. "He is a long-time season ticket holder of the Chicago Cubs and the Indianapolis 500") but no indication where it came from. Anything material on Wikipedia that is not verifiable is liable to be removed and at this point that applies to basically your entire draft. Joe Roe (talk) 21:11, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

September 5

08:46:09, 5 September 2016 review of submission by Pierre Lamarre


I've written an article that has references from national newspapers and multiple online sources. I have amended the page countless times to meet Wikipedia's criteria. Please can someone tell me in clear english why this page is not notable enough? What more does it need?

Pierre Lamarre (talk) 08:46, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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