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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 37.253.211.21 (talk) at 20:05, 13 September 2016 (Should you mix up different racial ideologies?: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.


Swastika?

Why would white supremacists use the swastika as their symbol? Sounds like someone is trying to ruin the article...112.198.83.66 (talk) 04:34, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whites and blacks?

I am not a politically correct person but I do wonder if the terms' whites' or 'blacks' are the right ones to use in an article like this. I appreciate that using only 'white people' or 'black people' might become a little monotonous but I still think we should generally avoid the terms 'whites' and 'blacks'. Martin Hogbin (talk) 09:20, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is a good idea. I also find it interesting that where people in olden times would say "I am not a racist... but" they are now saying "I am not politically correct...but". Surely this signals a change in society's values.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 18:22, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That is an interesting comment. I think there is a difference between 'correct'and 'politically correct'. You can call me 'correct' if you like. There is some other terminology that a may comment on too. Martin Hogbin (talk) 18:41, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

White power a whole different concept

White power is a whole different concept with a different history of definition, should have a separate entry and not redirected here. --State of clarity (talk) 12:20, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, I got here through the redirect too. I don't know too much about the subject, but my impression is that it's a subset and more contemporary than what this article mostly deals with. The Celtic cross isn't even mentioned in this article and that is the primary sign that reaches day to day life from this subculture, at least in my experience. 1Veertje (talk) 20:30, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
White power is no different than the Black Power movement, or the Asian Power movement, or the Gay Pride movement for that matter. White power can simply mean pride in being white, without hatred of anybody. Well not the extremists have hijacked the slogan, it should not represent in any way being proud of being white or proud of white heritage. James12345zxchuiS (talk) 06:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We go by what the WP:RS say, not personal opinions on the matter. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 06:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well said James. White power is no different than other race power pride, the same goes for race supremacy, it is no different. I didn't know that white power has a specific definition. Please get this changed as it is wrong. ActorBoss (talk) 00:23, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article is completely biased and discriminating!!

As someone else said white power and white supremacy are two different subjects. Notice on the page of black power there is literally nothing morally bad said but on this there is. Why was white power redirected to white supremacy? Shouldn't the same happen to black power and be directed to black supremacy? I believe in white power but that does not mean I believe in exterminating and creating black genocide. As I said this page is incredibly biased as this is the new white power page and frankly I'm hugely insulted. The black power page says that the words "black power" is a positive political slogan yet the Black Panthers used and still use it despite the FBI in their own words saying "The Black Panther Party (BPP) is a black extremist organization founded in Oakland, California in 1966. It advocated the use of violence and guerilla tactics to overthrow the U.S. government." Please change this and make different pages. If not I strongly encourage other people to battle against Wikipedia until this is done as this not acceptable and extremely unfair to the people that are proud of being white.

ActorBoss (talk) 00:19, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a forum. Take it elsewhere. Ogress 00:45, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For someone who's been here since 2012 and worked on so many BLPs, you should know Wikipedia's policies by now... Go check out Talk:White pride/FAQ as most of that applies here. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 01:43, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

East Asian IQ denial

White supremacists give lectures about the East Asian Intelligence control over the design of the IQ test in general. They simply claim that the Intelligence Agencies of China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan (even Singapore that isn't East Asian but has a significant Chinese population) etc. use agents inside the companies or commissions which design the various tests, to produce a test that corresponds to the average mentality, abilities and faculties of the East Asian population. Also they claim that the East Asian probabilistic distribution (bell curve) of IQ per person, is "bumpy" and lacking statistical significance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:410C:A00:2575:EF28:A5B5:25FD (talk) 18:56, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Should you mix up different racial ideologies?

I can see the authors of this article have tried to mix in different ideas here, probably to make a longer article.

The nazis belived the Germans and to a lesser extent the Germanic peoples to be a superior race/people. You write about nordicism, which are more or less what Adolf Hitler belived in.

The reasoning you use to justify this is the idea, is that there are different defenitions of white. Can you find sources for this? Have there been different defenition than European or a decentant of Europeans?

It is also kind of sad that you use Nazism as a kind of white supremacism, even though thousands of people from Poland died from German atrocities. Just like the Jews, who also look like Europeans.

Is there anyone who would like to at least check up on this. To me this article look like a mess. 37.253.211.21 (talk) 20:05, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]