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October 25

Category:Referees stubs

Nominator's rationale: Not needed, created out of process, and the name doesn't conform to stub category norms. Her Pegship (talk) 00:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Priests trained at King's College London

Nominator's rationale: I don't think it makes much sense to sub-categorise in this way. In that case you could end up with no end of sub-cats based on profession. This List of King's College London alumni already does a pretty good job of listing alumni by profession, and I think the newly created category is superfluous. Uhooep (talk) 00:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Category was not tagged for discussion. Now that it has been, it should remain open for a fresh seven days.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:44, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as originator: when editing a lot of priests' (and bishops') articles, I notice their university education and their ministerial training aren't always distinguished, so I've been trying to clarify that information where possible. Creating this category was to help with the distinction in KCL's case: because while some of these individuals took their first undergraduate degrees at KCL (and were trained for ministry elsewhere), there will be a number who were there training for ministry with the separate-ish KCL Theological Dept. Some will have done both. DBD 21:27, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • View unchanged -- A person my get a BA from one university, a masters from another and a doctorate from a third. He then is an alumnus of all three. We do not need to split out one particular qualification, such as ordination training. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:04, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Administration

Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SHAREDNAME. In article space Administration is a disambiguation page. Possibly turn the category page into a category disambiguation page. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:22, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Some articles could usefully be moved down into e.g. Public administration, but others span the general topic across government, business and non-profit sectors. Mind you, it might be possible to move each article currently in this category into either one or multiple sub-categories, in which case I would have no objection to making it a category disambiguation page listing most of the current sub-cats (excluding Dioceses). – Fayenatic London 16:37, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Directors in Tulu cinema

Nominator's rationale: Very small category Rathfelder (talk) 19:54, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Canadian writers of Chinese descent

Nominator's rationale: More of Mannrheimo's excessive overcategorization on unnecessary ethnic overspecificity. While the general state of being of broadly Asian descent is relevant in conjunction with being a Canadian writer, it is not WP:DEFINING to intersect that with individual national backgrounds like Chinese or Japanese or Vietnamese — Canadian literature does not treat Kim Thúy differently from Madeleine Thien or Kerri Sakamoto or Shyam Selvadurai on the basis of ethnic differences, but treats them all as "Asian Canadian writers", the end. As well, many of the resulting categories violate WP:SMALLCAT with just one or two or four entries. Merges should also watch out for whether the person is appropriately filed in "Canadian people of X descent" or not, but there's no need for subcategories which cross that tree with the writers tree. Bearcat (talk) 17:23, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Double upmerge eac into Category:Canadian writers of Asian descent and Canadian people of Fooian descent‎ (i.e upmerge Category:Canadian writers of Vietnamese descent into Category:Canadian people of Vietnamese descent) - as long as these categories exist, I see no reason not to upmerge the nominated categories into those, as well. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:11, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just to be clear, there are some cases where the "writers of X descent" category was added alongside "people of X descent" rather than replacing it, making it unnecessary to add "people" back, and there are other cases where the writer is already in an appropriate subcategory — for example, Shyam Selvadurai is already in Category:Sri Lankan emigrants to Canada and Category:Canadian people of Sri Lankan Tamil descent, so readding him to Category:Canadian people of Sri Lankan descent would still be undesirable duplicate categorization. That's why I specified in my nomination statement that upmerging to "people" was conditional on the articles' other categories, rather than a blanket thing that had to automatically happen to every single article involved here. Bearcat (talk) 16:54, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Big data glossary

Nominator's rationale: This is a typical case of WP:Overcategorization. It adds no value to the existing categories related to Category:Big data, and is not a glossary, either. This might be more suitable for a Wikipedia Book instead, with these categories being chapters of the book.
Some of the created sub-categories "Something for big data" even have typos: Category:Storage for big date‎ and the redlink "scikits.learn" in Category:Machine learning for big data.
Some of these are pages rather than categories: Category:Visualization of big data, Category:Machine learning for big data, Category:NLP for big data, Category:Processing for big data.
-- Chire (talk) 13:52, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For info, scikits.learn was created by Caoanexo (talk · contribs) and speedily deleted. I have recreated the page as a redirect. – Fayenatic London 18:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Czech people of Slovak-Jewish descent

Nominator's rationale: It is empty. Hovhannes Karapetyan 13:47, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Category:News stories in Riverside County, California

Nominator's rationale: Apparently a one-off category. If these things are history, they belong in that category, but they also include biographies of people who were in the news in Riverside County, California, at some unspecified time or another. Imagine 2000 other county categories with every person or event that was "newsy" in the county. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 01:38, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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