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No Sudley
No mention of Sudley under Jim Nortons characters? The relative of Edgar who has long fingernails, is overly creepy and religious? "You need to find the lord girl!" Iscream22 (talk) 16:12, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Lobster Girl and End of terrestrial radio career
Why isnt SPAZZ or Lobster Girl mentioned as show bits? Its one of the most famous bits they have ever done. When I first started to look up the b-b-b-b-b-boys on google I would always be prodded to search for "O & A Lobster Girl".
Also their radio career needs to be documented to the bitter end, even tho it will just be temporary. This will make their comeback all that more sweet —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.19.47.197 (talk) 03:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- I imagine it's too hard to reference without being original research.129.139.1.68 (talk) 21:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I would also like to see this article expanded. Particularly with biographical information and expansion of detail on their careers. Iscream22 (talk) 01:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Robert Clary Controversy
http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=952 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.9.223 (talk) 19:50, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Howard Stern
I expected to find more references to Howard Stern and his gag order on Opie and Anthony early in their career in this article. 68.10.91.104 (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Jesse Ventura
The article says "As Ventura left the room where the show was being held, Norton said, "F---ing baby. Big f-ing guy who doesn't like the little guy yelling."" I thought he said "Fucking baby" and "big fucking guy". Which was it?129.139.1.68 (talk) 19:51, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Travis aka Dr. Gay
69.207.29.139 (talk) 03:05, 21 December 2011 (UTC) Will someone please explain to me why Travis's new nickname of Dr. Gay (given to him when he entered into the studio when Opie and Anthony were expecting Dr. J, prompting Anthony to say "More like Dr. Gay")? Or better yet, can someone explain or cite sources where, for example, the nickname SexE is cited with a verifiable source?
- Per our verifiability policy, "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable published source" (cf. WP:CHALLENGE). Additionally, see right below, the "burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material" (cf. WP:BURDEN). To re-add the nickname, please add a reliable source to support the claim. Maxim(talk) 22:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
69.207.29.139 (talk) 15:56, 22 December 2011 (UTC) Still don't see a verified source for such nicknames as "SexE" or TStorm. I guess I'm not sure why the nicknames that are already here are OK, but the name Dr. Gay would be "challenged or likely to be challenged", unless the challenging was being done by someone who specificaly objected to the word 'gay', as someone who is familiar with the show would find no reason to challenge this. The initial naming of Travis as Dr. Gay was on 11/28/2011 http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B005HJAAE0&qid=1324568064&sr=1-1 (Right before the Dr. J interview), and is also listed on http://www.oapedia.com/index.php/Travis , which, granted, is just another wiki, but it's hard to find a verifiable news source indicating a nickname of a producer on a radio show.
69.207.29.139 (talk) 17:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC) So, it looks like the answer is we don't like the "g" word, nor would we dare listen to, or become knowledgeable on the subject that we are editing. Fair enough, but shouldn't that warrant a disclaimer?
Intro song
It definitely is NOT Maggie's Farm. Quit changing it to that. It's the Rage Against the Machine's version of Street Fighting Man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.102.187.242 (talk) 17:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Cake
Rewrote the cake controversy section, added a couple references. I know that Opie has on the show and off commented about what happened off camera in terms of compensation, but don't have any links so left it out. Seemed less contentious to add without reference that it has appeared on the show regularly since then, but feel free to take that out if anybody finds it problematic. --Rhododendrites (talk) 15:05, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Cumia's firing = America loves and endorses racism — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.48.166.9 (talk) 23:02, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2014
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I am requesting that the "Cumia Firing" section be revised to make the language more objective and encyclopedic. Here is the source for the CURRENT text:
- Cumia firing
On July 3, 2014, Cumia was fired by Sirius XM, after making a series of questionable tweets following an off-air incident with a black woman on the street. Cumia tweeted that he was punched by the woman while attempting to take a picture, and made a series of tweets described by Sirius XM as "racially-charged and hate-filled".[1] There was no comment as to Hughes' possible future with the company at that time. Sidekick Jim Norton is contemplating moving to Los Angeles to pursue an acting career. Cumia is reported "blackballed" in the industry and will never work in corporate radio again. He will instead concentrate on developing his "Live From The Compound" podcast-style show, which he records from his residence in Long Island. Cumia has a history of racially charged epithets and slurs, but somehow has escaped the same punishment as other notable celebs, such as Jonah Hill and Paula Dean until now.
I am requesting that it be changed to the following to make the language more objective, and to remove the ridiculous reference to Jonah Hill and Paula Dean:
- Cumia firing
On July 3, 2014, Cumia was fired by Sirius XM, after making a series of tweets following an off-air incident with a black woman on the street. Cumia tweeted that he was punched by the woman while attempting to take a picture. The tweets were described by Sirius XM as "racially-charged and hate-filled".[2] There was no comment as to Gregg Hughes' possible future with the company at the time of the firing. Jim Norton stated he is contemplating moving to Los Angeles to pursue an acting career. Cumia has stated he will concentrate on developing his "Live From The Compound" podcast, which he records from his residence in Long Island.
67.167.104.116 (talk) 23:46, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
- The second one seems reasonable enough, but requires citations regarding Norton's career and Cumia's podcast. I removed everything after the sentence "There was no comment as to Hughes' possible future with the company at that time" until suitable sources can be found. jhsounds (talk) 12:37, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Change the article into the past tense...
Wouldn't it be appropriate and within the Wikipedia guidelines to change the opening part of the article to read the show in a past tense since technically The Opie and Anthony Show doesn't exist anymore, It's actually now called Opie with Jim Norton and until such time as the pair reunite as a broadcast team which maybe quite a while since Mr. Cumia is launching his own live podcast service and Messrs.'. Hughes and Norton will be at Sirius XM for the duration of their contract so really there is no O&A to speak of and I want to say that I'm not trying to be a dick about it, I was an O&A listener for many years I think if you want to keep it updated put it in a past tense then if they come back in what ever format then you can put it back in the present. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 13:19, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Request withdrawn. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 20:43, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
References
- ^ Todd Leopold, Opie & Anthony's' Anthony Cumia fired over tweets CNN, July 4, 2014.
- ^ Todd Leopold, Opie & Anthony's' Anthony Cumia fired over tweets CNN, July 4, 2014.
Confusing phrasing/no ref for clarification
This sentence needs editing as it does not make sense: "Hughes gave some indication, however, when he told the Long Island press in 2006, "We went from having a show that was syndicated in 17 major markets to having a few thousand," which did not help to remove the discrepancy.[12]"
- What discrepancy? There is no "discrepancy" in the proceeding paragraph.
- Discrepancies cannot be "removed" -- they can be addressed, clarified, etc. Grammatically, the sentence does not make sense.
- The provided reference link (#12) is broken, needs updating or removal.
Separate pages
Since the show is no longer on and their careers have moved in different directions I have split their info out into their own pages. I am moving Opie's personal info into Gregg Hughes and Ant's too Anthony Cumia. As their careers continue apart it makes less and less sense to have one page. I also split Opie with Jim Norton into its own page since it all being here was too much. Please visit those individual pages and help improve them. - Galatz (talk) 16:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Requested move 24 March 2015
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. (non-admin closure) — Amakuru (talk) 12:42, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Opie and Anthony → The Opie and Anthony Show – Following the spinning off of the Anthony Cumia and Gregg Hughes articles, as well as articles for the successor shows (Opie with Jim Norton and The Anthony Cumia Show), this article should be renamed accordingly. Previously the article had a wider scope, covering the careers of the two radio hosts, but since this revision the topic has narrowed to the radio show. The full title of the radio show was The Opie and Anthony Show [1] and this should be the name of the article to avoid confusion with the radio duo. --Relisted. — Amakuru (talk) 11:45, 1 April 2015 (UTC) - HazhkTalk 16:32, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- I would say there is no reason to move it. There is huge inconsistency between the naming convention. For example, see Mike & Mike, Ron and Fez, Don and Mike Show, Preston & Steve, Shredd and Ragan.
- If you review Category:American comedy radio programs, I would say this majority do not contain the word "show" in the ones that are a pair, regardless of the individuals on page. What makes O&A different than R&F having Ron Bennington and Fez Whatley? I dont think there is enough cause for the move.
- Also your examples of the successor show Opie with Jim Norton does not contain the word show. - GalatzTalk 17:05, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- That's because "Opie with Jim Norton" has never been branded as "The Opie with Jim Norton Show", yet the second article I linked is titled "The Anthony Cumia Show" because that is the full name of the show.
As for Ron and Fez, that article appears to cover their career as a radio duo, rather than just their current show. Their radio show is referred to in the article as "The Ron and Fez Show" and there is a link to The Ron and Ron Show, a preceding show. -- HazhkTalk 19:42, 24 March 2015 (UTC) - In the examples listed either the articles combine biographies of the radio hosts, e.g. Shredd and Ragan, or the show isn't named "The X Show", e.g. Preston & Steve. The inconsistency comes from the fact that not all radio shows have similar names. --HazhkTalk 19:45, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- That's because "Opie with Jim Norton" has never been branded as "The Opie with Jim Norton Show", yet the second article I linked is titled "The Anthony Cumia Show" because that is the full name of the show.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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"Racist" Twitter rant
Regarding the wording of the description of Cumia's Twitter rant: I really feel like it's an attempt at white-washing (specifically, trying to make it seem like the offensive tweets weren't really racist, but SiriusXM had the "opinion" that they were racist) to change the wording of this sentence. In any case, there's plenty of reliable sources that describe the tirade as racist; I added one, and will add more if you think it's necessary, but that's probably overkill at this point. Rockypedia (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- In my opinion its racist. In SiriusXM's opinion its racist. But who is the official judge of that is the issue. The purpose of the sentence is that SiriusXM felt it was racist so they fired him, what difference does it make if it actually was or was not? In my view its similar to how the article says he was allegedly punched by the woman, since its not a proven fact. - GalatzTalk 19:01, 31 October 2016 (UTC)