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Biographical articles for professional bandy players

The currently played 2016 Bandy World Championship got me thinking. There need to be more articles on professional bandy players. Even if not all the players in the world championship are professional athletes, some of them are, especially those from Russia, Sweden, Kazakhstan and Finland, as far as I know. There should be articles written about them. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 00:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

that is a good idea, but where do we find information? Is the information on club pages a good enough source or does one need third party sources like articles in newspapers and magazines? Do they have to be in English or is it all right to use Swedish language texts? I don't know if I should look for something before I know where to look... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.218.241.81 (talk) 16:15, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a few biographical articles on Swedish bandy players who played in this year's World Championship, collecting information from the Swedish Wikipedia. It is easy for me, since Swedish is my first language. I just translate to English. I hope other people can do the same for players from their home countries. I don't know Russian, so I cannot write very easily on Russian bandy players. Dammråtta (talk) 12:28, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I can write some. Ie :^) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:801:210:55EF:0:0:0:1 (talk) 11:42, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be ok to add a link to for instance the this page on scores in games → http://www.flashscore.com/bandy/ ?

Is it ok to add links to pages about bandy which are written in Swedish language or should they all be in English? The latter could be a problem since there are so few serious pages about bandy in English even if there ought to be more. Röd Boll (talk) 07:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is formally quite all right to link to pages in other languages, even if it is usually better if you can find sources in English for the English language Wikipedia. Dammråtta (talk) 21:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

National leagues and competitions

The sections about bandy in different countries should have more information about the cups and series in the different countries. At least some basic information is essential to know how the sport is played and followed by audiences in different places. This describes how popular it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.82.102 (talk) 20:10, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are more than welcome to develop the text in this article and write something about the subject of national competitions, if you have good sources. I think it might be a good idea. Skogsvandraren (talk) 16:32, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. This would be a very welcome addition. There should be some sort of club tournaments in most countries where bandy is played, at least in the countries where they have a national bandy team, I think. Shouldn't it? However, I don't know where to find good sources. As bandy is a very small sport in many countries, in many countries it is unfortunately not covered in mainstream sports media. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 12:15, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, as far as my experience goes, it is very hard to find information about local bandy games in different countries except for in Sweden, Finland, and Russia and to some extent Norway. It is such a niche sport in other countries that there is virtually no independent sources, like sports news sites, writing about the sport. This is a pity, of course. At least, I think so. :-) Dammråtta (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Top links, hat note

Who removed the hat notes and links from this article and why? They are relevant. Skogsvandraren (talk) 06:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Still no answer for this question here. How hard can it be to explain your reasoning? This is not nice. Skogsvandraren (talk) 06:46, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Sportsfan 1234 (talk · contribs), I have asked you on your talk page to come here and give an answer. Don't you feel a responsibility to do so? Should I revert it myself without waiting for your explanation any more? Skogsvandraren (talk) 06:51, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I restored this now, together with another text section which Sportsfan 1234 (talk · contribs) also removed without explaining why. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 12:06, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Too bad consensus did not go this way. Skogsvandraren (talk) 09:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hockey on the ice

Do we really need to take this discussion again? "Hockey on the ice" is an old name of bandy, it does not mean ice hockey. It fell out of use in favour of bandy, because the term led to confusion with ice hockey, but this does not mean that hockey on the ice has ever been an official name for the sport of ice hockey. It has, however, officially been used for the sport now more often called bandy. Ice hockey is of course a form of hockey played on ice, but this does not mean that ice hockey has ever had the name hockey on the ice. Bandy is, by all standards and terms, also a form of hockey and also played on ice. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 23:01, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone's information, the term was discussed pretty thoroughly in September last year. The discussion is saved at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 September 16#Hockey on the ice and should preferably be read before you give any opinion on the matter. Please note, that the result was no consensus, which led to the result that the redirects were left pointing to bandy as they had been before. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 23:19, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There's a new talking going on now at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_May_22#Hockey_on_the_ice. I don't know why it has been taken up again and why it was not noted here by the person nominating it. Röd Boll (talk) 07:02, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it seems Sportsfan 1234 did that, instead of discussing her/his edits here on this here talk page. Well, that's at least better than just keeping on editing without discussing at all, gotta give her/him that. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 20:37, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion is over now, it seems. I don't know why there was no notice about the end given here. Anyway, the links hockey on the ice and hockey on ice is now redirected to hockey#Subtypes, which perhaps is just as well, even if I haven't seen any source which shows that these terms actually were used for ice hockey or any other form of hockey in older times. I'll accept it. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 15:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is a bit strange, I think, that neither the person starting the discussion on redirecting the redirection pages (User:Sportsfan 1234) nor the person ending the discussion (User:BDD), made any note about it what so ever on this page. I don't know if they should have done that according to Wikipedia rules, but I think it would have been polite to do so, especially since the discussion was already going on here before the redirection discussion was started. Dammråtta (talk) 21:42, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is pretty normal for redirect discussions not to be notified on the target page, only on the actual redirect. -DJSasso (talk) 19:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Is that so and is it a good thing User:Djsasso¿ Even if there's an ongoing debate about it on the target page? I don't know, I'm just asking... ie ? :^) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:801:210:55EF:0:0:0:1 (talk) 11:38, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I might be missing the section but I don't see a section on this page talking about the redirect. -DJSasso (talk) 17:19, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This section? You are writing in this section, which is about it (the ridirect) and the term hockey on the ice (the redirected term). The section immediately before is also about it. Röd Boll (talk) 12:46, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@DJSasso, I started this section and before that User:Skogsvandraren started the Talk:Bandy#Top links, hat note section above obviously to invite User:Sportsfan 1234 to talk about the changes User:Sportsfan 1234 did, since they were about removing the hat links to this page connected to the redirected terms. I agreed totally with what User:Skogsvandraren wrote. User:Sportsfan 1234 for some reason, unbeknownst to me, choose not to explain or discuss what he had done, so it was restored by me. Then I started this section about the same question. At the same time, well knowing about my asking him to discuss here but obviously ignoring this, User:Sportsfan 1234 started the new debate on the redirect (even if this had been discussed before, less than a year ago). The new redirect discussion is noted here, in this very section. The redirect as such has no section on this talk page, but the term which is redirected has this abd the one immediately before it. If you look in the archive page for this talk page, you will find some notes about last year's discussion too. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 23:43, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Right but neither of them were really about the redirect. I get that it is a related discussion, but they are not talking about the redirect. That being said, if they were about the redirect, then that would indicate you were aware of the situation and heading to a forum to get outside views would also be a typical and normal action. -DJSasso (talk) 11:20, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe so, but first you usually try to solve a question at the talk page of the article where there is a difference of opinions. In this case, one user has been invited to take part in a discussion here about a certain term but just hasn't cared to join it and in stead gone on to start a discussion about a very related topic (the redirect of the said term), where there had been a discussion about exactly the same thing less than a year ago. It may not go against any formal rules or regular Wikipedia practice, but I find it presumptuous and rude. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 01:37, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Snowsuit Wearer, but I suppose there isn't much one can do about it. If Sportsfan 1234 don't want to talk about it, Sportsfan 1234 is not going to talk about it. There's nothing much anyone can do about it. *sigh* Skogsvandraren (talk) 22:02, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Anyway, the result of the discussion weren't that bad. I can live with it. And Sportsfan 1234 did not get it the way he wanted, which also pleases me a little bit. Skogsvandraren (talk) 22:13, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I still kind of wonder, why Sportsfan 1234 didn't want to take the discussion here. Skogsvandraren (talk) 09:56, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Culture around

There is a lot of culture around bandy, it beong mentioned in pop songs and other cultural expressions. Wouldn't it be fitting to write something about it here? In this monography avbout bandy. Bandy has spurred a lot of music and other culture. i think iy should be writtenn abpout here! So why don't you? Isn't it a good idea, isnt it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.218.255.40 (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This should be done. It is just so. Just dö it liksom just do it. Also I kind of think there is a lot moorre to br written about this sport. There is a lots of things and facts missing so to say. Shoulf be written in hwre just be written . I love you. But you got to dö this. It is so things that should be done IF you knoe what I medan. This is a gooood site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.218.243.68 (talk) 20:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edum edum edum e nothings hapeni g here. But it is fine anyway for I like it as it is as it of it of you know couldd be better anyway. It's good good. O okej line it. Now. I like bandy and want this article about to be as good as possible. Bandy is so much more than the sport. It's everything around the games too. The culture among the spectators,the supporter fans. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:801:211:e252::1 at 21:30, 2 July 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

Bandy at the 2017 Asian Winter Games?

Does anyone know if there will be any bandy at the Sapporo games in 2017? Sources I can find are not clear on this and I'd like to add information about it, wether they will play bandy or not. Skogsvandraren (talk) 23:26, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose you have already read the answer at Talk:2017 Asian Winter Games#Bandy at the 2017 Asian Winter Games – there won't be any bandy tournament at the 2017 games, so there will be no follow up from the last games held in 2011. Bandy is a sport which probably has too few followers in the host country Japan, even if Japan is now regulary taking part in the World Championships. Röd Boll (talk) 15:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's sad. Bandy is such a nice sport and if it was played at the Asian Winter Games it would certainly grow a fanbase it never had before. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 22:02, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the sport?

I ALWAYS thought it was bandie. I also didn't know it was being played professionally, but here I learn that it is in Sweden, Scandinavia and Russia.

Shouln't the page be moved to bandie? I still think that is the more commonly used name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.64.88 (talk) 22:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is bandy. It is always called bandy in Sweden and most other countries. The spelling with -ie is almost never used, even if I think I have seen it sometime in circumstances more connected with recreational sports not really following the usual bandy rules. The international governing authority of bandy has the spelling with a y in its name and it is used almost everywhere else too, even in other languages. Röd Boll (talk) 07:44, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This wasn't really me asking, but a friend of mine who borrowed my computer for a while. I know it's spelled bandy and I think he knows too, but we came to discuss this and he wanted to check Wikipedia and apparently asked a question about it here. Bandy is not very common in his home country. Thank you. /83.251.64.88 (talk) 08:26, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know much about bandy either, some years ago. However, I have learned more and more over the years, and the more I learn, the more I want to learn. It is a fascinating sport. I enjoy it and I recommend it to anyone. It is fast paced, dramatic, genuine and in a way what sport was all about once, i.e. fair playing games and having fun. I can also understand somewhat of the feeling of surprise and the want to ask. I sometimes come across information about sports which I have hardly ever heard anything about because they are not played in my parts of the world, but still, they might be interesting and it may be that the little you have heard about the sport in question might be proven wrong. Like how the name of the sport is spelled. But we are all here because we want to learn more, aren't we? I find it nice to be able to help, when people ask questions like this, even though the answer had already been given now. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 22:00, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen it spelled bandie or bandi, but only on very rare occations, like once or twice per version. When I have seen it, it has been in passing remarks by people who probably don't know that much about the sport. Skogsvandraren (talk) 10:01, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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