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Map of 1st voyage

Is the map presented as the route for the first voyage correct? It does not match the textual description or the map above which shows the routes of all four voyages. This map looks more like the route of the third voyage.

Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2016

I want to edit it because i have some useful information Mikachu memes (talk) 06:57, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 11:13, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sex Slavery section

I have removed the following content from the article:

===Sex slavery=== On his way back to Spain to stand trial for accusations of abuse of Spaniard colonists, Columbus wrote a letter to the nurse of the son of Ferdinand and Isabella, pleading his case. He wrote: {{quote|"Now that so much gold is found, a dispute arises as to which brings more profit, whether to go about robbing or to go to the mines. A hundred castellanos are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand, and for all ages a good price must be paid."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://ageofex.marinersmuseum.org/index.php?type=explorersection&id=65|title=The Mariners' Museum – EXPLORATION through the AGES|publisher=}}</ref>}}

While the text in the letter could certainly be interpreted to a modern reader as sex slavery or, at the very least, underaged prostitution, the source itself makes no mention of either of these and this interpretation must be considered OR until a better source is found using this specific accusation. Scoundr3l (talk) 23:57, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Taking this out is a bad thing to do. Instead of just wholesale deleting it, you should have altered it slightly. But I guess you're trying to sanitize the page of the harshest criticism of columbus. The fact that he was discussing how to sell little girls for sex is the worst thing I've heard of him doing, and thank goodness I checked the talk page to find this information. Only a monster could do this sort of thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.138.204.128 (talk) 19:36, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your concern, but you may be misinterpreting this change. If I were trying to sanitize the page, I would have deleted it wholesale. Instead I moved it to the talk page. This is your opportunity to discuss the content and hopefully provide additional sources. As it stands, though, the source makes no mention of sex slavery, only a direct quote from the primary source. Per WP:PRIMARY, "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation." Readers or editors interpreting this content for themselves represents Original Research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. If you have additional reliable sources for this claim, please provide them and perhaps the content can be altered and re-added to the body text. Scoundr3l (talk) 17:16, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to add the monuments gallery in honor of Columbus in the Legacy section.

Madrid Spain
  
Genova, Italy
Barcelona, Spain

Lima Peru 
Valparaiso, Chile 
New York

Santo Domingo 
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Barranquilla, Colombia 

--User:Edhu9 (talk) 23:56, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2016

I want to edit this article because Christopher Columbus did not technically discover America. The most he did for it was map it out. SoPhIaRaE05 (talk) 12:16, 26 October 2016 (UTC) SoPhIaRaE05 SoPhIaRaE05 (talk) 12:16, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Where does the article say that he discovered America? The third paragraph of the intro states that he "was not the first European explorer to reach the Americas." He is only credited in the article for discoveries of islands that had not been previously reached by Europeans. And the Legacy section explains in detail that he did not discover America. What more would you add? Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 13:08, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:52, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2016

Brain213333 (talk) 18:30, 26 October 2016 (UTC) The name is wrong.[reply]

 Not done - It is correct in English as per WP:COMMONNAME
The "early life" section also gives his name in Latin, Italian and Spanish - Arjayay (talk) 18:39, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Marxist Class analysis (image problem)

I want to ad a picture underneath the painting of Columbus and the king. Its the same picture but with Algebra on top as a worksheet to historical material dialectics. The image upploader keeps telling me i have to ad a picture taken with my own camera, but its the same original as on the page. Its not necessary that the picture appears on the main page it can been under image folder it self for those who wants to know more please help!

Class analysis State Apparatus Lacanian psychoanalysis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Psy Phi (talk • contribs) 07:36, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Without the image being uploaded first, this request is invalid. You can request an image be uploaded. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:29, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The lead

In the lead you accuse columbus of genocide by consensus of "several hystorians". However, later in the article, you correctly write "only one major history text he reviewed mentions Columbus's role in genocide" and that this is a black legend, as hystorians agree that there was no genocide (this is a political issue, hystorians says otherwise) as there was no intentions of killing the natives (the aim was to submit and convert them) and as, as correctly reported in the article, the large majority of natives' deaths are due to deseases unintentionally imported by the europeans: the article mentions correctly that "80-90 % of natives die beacuse of smallpox" and that "the spaniards were too few" to have carried out killings on such a scale. Therefore the lead has to be change as it misrepresent the consensus among hystorians. It should be changed in something like "Columbus tried to subdue and/or enslave the local population of Hyspaniola. This aspect of his life has caused political concerns in the present over his legacy".

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