Talk:Starbucks

Whilst I'm aware Starbucks call themselves `gourmet' coffee shops, this notion is laughable to many, particularly outside the U.S. (no offence intended!). Is is perhaps worth altering this to indicate that Starbucks call themselves this, but not passing comment on its accuracy? Andrewferrier 11:57, 2004 Oct 24 (UTC)

Hmm... Which Peet's?

Entrepreneur Howard Schultz joined the company in 1982 and started the Il Giornale coffee bar chain in 1985, whose outlets were rebranded as Starbucks in 1987 when Il Giornale bought the existing Starbucks stores from the original owners, who held on to the Peet's chain that Starbucks had merged with a few years earlier.

Is this the same as Peet's Coffee, based in Berkeley, CA? The Peet's of Berkeley company history doesn't appear to mention this transaction. --NightMonkey 08:41, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)