Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cesar Daniel Izturis

Cesar Daniel Izturis

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Appears to be a minor league player recently signed to the Mariners but apparently still on the farm team. Suggest merge to Cesar Izturis for not per WP:TOOSOON Montanabw^(talk) 19:36, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete only and no merge as it's clear he's not notable in the established baseball notability and there's nothing else otherwise, including the fact there's no inherited notability. SwisterTwister talk 19:42, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

First of all there is inherited notability. He's the son of one of the greatest defensive SS's of all time out of Venezuela in Cesar Izturis. Second the guy was signed for a 550K bonus, I don't know how much knowledge you guys have on international MLB signings but the fact that they're even releasing the amount of his bonus means he must be pretty good. Second this is all true information I perfectly understand if you wanted to delete information that may be false or biased in the article but the fact that you want to delete a perfectly true article is censorship. -Matthew Wisnefsky (talk) 2:56, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

I think your claim is directly contradicted by WP:NOTINHERITED? The project has a low bar for notability, please read these starting at WP:N. Also please lay off the call of of "censorship", this is not that. ValarianB (talk) 13:27, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

- @Matthew Wisnefsky: Please read WP:GNG. MLB tracks and reports all bonuses. 550K is more than many get, but is ultimately meaningless when you see how many bust. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mubogshu-Actually they do not release all of the bonuses, especially for the players from Veneuzuela like Cesar Daniel is because of all the kidnapping that has been going on of athletes. So the fact that they actually did release the bonus is impressive.-Matthew Wisnefsky

Redirect to César Izturis#Personal. Not independently notable yet but the relevant information on him is mentioned in his father's article so a redirect is appropriate. Rlendog (talk) 12:40, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect does not reach project notability guides for baseball players or any others but is a possible search term.

•If you're going to redirect the article at least call him Cesar Daniel. His name is not just Daniel, I've changed it to Cesar Daniel many times on his fathers page but someone keeps on incorrectly changing it back.-Matthew Wisnefsky — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew Wisnefsky (talk • contribs) 16:12, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

•How about he be added to the list of Seattle Marineds minor leaguers like Kevin Maitan is for the Braves. And have a minor article there. -Matthew Wisnefsky — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew Wisnefsky (talk • contribs) 16:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to César Izturis#Personal. The son fails WP:GNG, but the father's article can mention the son. Some of these "minor league page" articles get bloated with entries that shouldn't be there. This player hasn't even made a professional debut. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]