Talk:List of Murdoch Mysteries episodes

Episode 7x9

I didn't realize that this page is semi-protected. I don't edit much on Wikipedia but though I'd give it a try. Anyhow I was directed to put the deets up on the talk page. I apologize if this is not the proper way to edit the page. I had planed on adding info for episode 9 of season 7.

• Title: Midnight Train to Kingston
• Season: Seven
• Episode: Nine
• Aired: 2013-12-02
• Commercial Blurb: With notorious killer James Gillies sentenced to die, Detective Murdoch and the rest of Station Four oversee his transport to Kingston. Dr. Julia Ogden wants to attend the hanging as well, to learn more about the villain’s twisted psyche. But the killer seems to be concocting a plan to escape – and kill again.

Glad I could help and learn.

Episode Summary

I am willing to write a little more description in each of the episode boxes. However, how detailed can I get? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.10.18.78 (talk) 22:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Correct Dates?

The dates in season 3 and 4 would seem to indicate that in the UK Season 4 airs each week, one day before season 3? and that in canada Season 4 starts before the end of Season 3??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.134.202 (talk) 16:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Mate, the dates are correct. You are probably missing the YEAR when looking at it. Season 3 started in the UK on 16 February 2010 and season 4 started in the UK on 15 February 2011. Season 4 in Canada started a fortnight after the season was available on DVD in the UK. That is the truly crazy part of the broadcast history of the show. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 07:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Series overview

To the editor who keeps removing the series overview. The series overview section in this article is in line with every other series overview on Wikipedia. Please stop removing it from the article. You have been IP banned in the past for doing so, and if you don't stop, I will report you. 89.100.200.187 (talk) 00:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC).

You bounce around IP addresses like you are sampling every service provider in the country but you always remove the series overview table and strip most of the information from the introduction concurrent to your complaining that it isn't right. The tv movies are the basis for the tv series. Originally it was to be a 4th movie but Bravo! executives saw potential for something more regularly on their schedule. Murdoch Mysteries was the first scripted dramatic series commissioned by Bravo!. The show changed broadcasters prior to its premiere. That is not exactly a common occurrence. It has again changed domestic broadcasters for its 6th season. Not many shows go through 3 domestic broadcasters in their first run - CHUM, Rogers, and CBC.
The article has been protected in the past because what you are doing does indeed constitute vandalism of the article. When it is protected others, such as the person who started this section, can't contribute to the article. Most everyone else, with or without an account, does make positive contributions here. The pattern of behaviour is quite suggestive of the holder of a certain account and if it is indeed you then i assume you realise you would have been blocked by now if you had been logged in to make all of these edits wherein you blank entire sections.
The abhorrence of references is another matter that has been most annoying. It is as if you want the Murdoch Mysteries articles to remain "stub" or "start" class. They will never get to "good article" status so long as there is fighting over such fundamentals as including references and comprehensive content. I could have had this at a "B" class by now if not so frustrated with this feud. You wanted UK broadcast dates and you got so much more. Most people would be thrilled but you complain. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 20:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

UK Premier dates or not?

It seems anon is under the impression that they should not ever appear. I think they're valuable although I didn't originally add them. If this implies that we should be including US original air dates, then it makes sense not to include the UK dates because it then could become unwieldy. However, as an encyclopedia there's not reason not to include encyclopedic information. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:03, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

The person presumed to now be editing anon had asked for help with the dates. I had gone through then now-replaced website of Alibi getting the dates for every episode that i could. The lack of information is why season 2 is incomplete. One could assume that they were shown the same day as in Canada, just hours earlier, for the whole season, but i couldn't find anything beyond the season premiere night. For the third season, the information was more readily available as the show had its global premiere in the UK that season and was shown in Canada later. For the fourth and fifth seasons, Rogers just could not seem to decide when it would be shown on Citytv, announcing and then retracting many premiere dates, while Alibi didn't waver; this resulted in the season 4 UK DVDs being available before the season was broadcast in Canada and the season 5 Australian DVDs being release while season 5 was being broadcast in Canada.
People here love to slap US dates on Canadian shows just because some US broadcaster bought the rights to the show. (so hate that) Here it is different as the show is actually a Canadian-British co-production. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 08:52, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

It should be "try to" rather than "try and"

Please see http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/g43.html Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:23, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

More at http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/try , Usage section. http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/try.html http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000253.htm http://www.engvid.com/try-to-do-try-doing/ Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:25, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Should the three "television films" be included here

The character names are the same but are played by different actors, although Hélène Joy appears in both, but only the third of the films as a different character. The production company is essentially the same. They are mentioned and linked to from the main article, Murdoch Mysteries, but they do not have the plot details or date information provided here. I'm not sure I understand why they were initially placed in this article and I understand why they are being removed, but based on an earlier discussion, it doesn't appear to be a consensus. Perhaps we could form one here. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Among the things hard to reference a decade later is what i think is key here. Initially there was to be a 4th movie starring Peter Outerbridge on Bravo!. Due to the success of the movies that fourth movie idea morphed into a series idea. That became a problem because Peter Outerbridge was already starring in another series for Shaftesbury you might know, ReGenesis. It was decided to continue with the series for Bravo! but to re-cast. The three movies are included as bonus features on the UK series 1-3 box set, where they are presented in un-cropped 16x9. The series was also initially intended to be shown on Bravo! in Canada but due to all the media mergers, sales, and acquisitions in Canada in 2007-08 Bravo! and the show ended up going to different owners. Due to the retail packaging in Canada the tv films became, retroactively, collectively known as The Murdoch Mysteries while the series is Murdoch Mysteries. One could view the films as pilots for the series. One could view the films as a mini-series since they collectively are in the same fictional universe, apart from the subsequent series. The press release from Shaftesbury announcing the series says it is based on both the novels and the tv films. Without those three tv films there would not be a series that is to have its 8th season premiere in a matter of weeks. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 08:52, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Removing references

It's not clear why any editor would want to remove references from an article that suffers from a lack thereof. Every summary should be referenced. The ratings should all be referenced. Air dates should be referenced. Cast, also referenced. Removing dead links should not be done solely because the URL to the source does not work any longer. I could go on, but it's clear that more refs are needed and the article has been tagged for that very reason. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:34, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Anon made the same edits. I reverted again. I also made the point by tagging the material in season one and tagged each section from seasons two through seven. We need more references, not fewer. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:43, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I have again put back in all of the references i had previously that have been habitually removed by the person who appears to abhor references. Also, broadcast dates are not individually referenced.
As for the first season oddity, that comes from how the Citytv network functioned at that time. There were "network shows" and "off-network shows". Murdoch Mysteries was one of the "network shows" but Citytv didn't require its stations to broadcast the "network shows" at a consistent time across the country but rather allowed each station to decide when such shows would be broadcast. The Toronto, Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver stations agreed to broadcast the series at Thursdays at 10pm local time. The Winnipeg station, being the only one in the Central time zone, often did its own thing and did so with Murdoch Mysteries, showing it Sundays at 9pm, exactly 4 days before it was broadcast by the flagship station in Toronto. The Winnipeg station was available to satellite tv customers across the whole country so that was the "original air date" of each episode; those who picked up broadcast signals or had cable tv and didn't live near Winnipeg had to wait until Thursday. There is a reference for this in the summary for the first season. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 08:52, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm not impressed that you removed the {{citation needed}} tags. WP:V and WP:RS seems to be ignored by a lot of TV episode articles and that doesn't impress me. Provided that the anon doesn't return and start adding unreferenced information in the future and doesn't remove existing references I won't take it further. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:53, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect Actor Listed

In the second paragraph at the top, you have Colm Meaney as Inspector Brackenreid. The inspector was played by Thomas Craig. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1091909/

The second paragraph states that this is a "prior to the television series". Different series. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:48, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 February 2016

There is an episode missing from Season 9. The most recent episode called Wild Child first aired on February 23, 2016. citation: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5157802/ Brookemockett (talk) 23:45, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Unfortunately IMDb is not considered a reliable source. Can you provide a source that conforms to WP:RS? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 01:11, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Season 9 episode count.

If including the 2-hour Christmas episode in the count, then Season 9 has 19 episodes. Personally, I wouldn't count it as a regular episode.

There 2 more episodes in season 9, From Buffalo With Love (Mar 14) and Cometh the Archer (Mar 21, season finale). Check online listing sites like Zap2It to confirm.

Also, someone asked on Twitter and the @CBCMurdoch account answered them: https://twitter.com/Ian_Crichton/status/707036975711318016

Wayne61 (talk) 14:23, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

I agree that it was a special, not a regular episode. http://www.cbc.ca/murdochmysteries/episodes/season-9/ The problem was that when those episodes were added, they copied the summary from the CBC website. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:35, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

"Guest star" versus "Recurring star"

In the opening credits, many (most?, all?) Murdoch Mysteries episodes list some "Guest stars". Frequently, some of the Guest Stars are Recurring Stars (i.e., appear in several episodes, usually as the same character). This Wikipedia article usually uses the "Recurring star" phrase to identify such actors, but sometimes the "Guest star" phase appears, notwithstanding that the actor, and associated character, are in several episodes (e.g., Paul Rhys in S4E01, S4E02, S4E04).

A) I suggest that a consistent policy be established regarding actors/characters who are NOT the main actors/characters, but appear in multiple episodes.

B) I further suggest that the policy ought be that "recurring stars" be identified as such (notwithstanding that they are called Guest Stars in the episode opening credits), and the phrase "Guest star" in Wikipedia be reserved for one-time-only appearances.70.26.56.14 (talk) 08:55, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

10th season

I'm pretty sure the new 10th season doesn't start airing in 2015. I know this is a Canadian show, but if Wikipedia is paying people to form a "Task Force", couldn't they find people who know what year we're presently living in? Hired professionals shouldn't make such amateur typos! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.145.134 (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2017

The sentence

Canada's former Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, guest stars in the episode as Constable Peter Armstrong.

is misleading as to the words "former" (he was PM then) and "guest star" (he's in it for about 30 seconds), and would do well to mention what's notable about this constable instead of giving his name. Please substitute:

Stephen Harper, then Canada's Prime Minister, makes a cameo appearance as a constable who fails to recognize the Prime Minister, Wilfrid Laurier. 69.159.60.210 (talk) 12:53, 7 January 2017 (UTC)