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Pregnant -> Very pregnant

[1]. Now can we add the obvious fact that she's pregnant to the article? See also [2] NE Ent 01:14, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't have any issue with saying that her public-figure friend stated that she is pregnant, and giving the direct-quote citation at Us.

The Daily Mail photos certainly make her look pregnant, but that's interpretive. While I'm convinced, personally, it's still my POV interpretation that she's pregnant and not just turning into Shelly Winters. --Tenebrae (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I personally don't think she looks pregnant in any of those pictures, especially the US Magazine, you can see where her belt is, and it's fitting her perfectly around the stomach without any bump. But that's just me. LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:23, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Glad to see this finally got settled... —Locke Cole • t • c 19:03, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry to be pedantic, but if a confirmation by producer Kevin Feige, who she is actively working with on her current film, wasn't considered good enough, then why is a confirmation by someone she once worked with 5 years ago any better? – Smyth\^talk 11:33, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Concur with Smyth. That said, having a look at the recent edit in that regard, it's written carefully and not claiming she's pregnant, only that a named, on the record friend claims she is. I think we were using Feige to state definitively she was, but that's so long ago now I don't remember or feel like looking up. Personally, I think we'll be seeing a kid any time now, but that's just my POV.--Tenebrae (talk) 00:29, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

I bit my tongue when I posted above, but this is exactly what I was thinking as well. Either way, I'm glad to see something has been added that works as a compromise for now. —Locke Cole • t • c 05:55, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Ping Miss.Indecisive (re: your change to the article). See the discussion above and archived RFC. Nymf (talk) 08:45, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Maybe I'm wrong about the US Magazine, but I know that Daily Mail isn't used as a reliable source. I'm fine with the whole mention of it according to someone close to her, but can we use something a bit more reliable? LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:21, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 170#Celebrity sources and distinguishing tabloid (newspaper format) from tabloid journalism for more input on celebrity sources. There usually isn't anything wrong with citing Us Weekly (Us magazine) in a celebrity article, but Daily Mail is generally discouraged. Besides, as the discussion I've linked to indicates, it doesn't hurt to use a better source than Us Weekly. Flyer22 (talk) 11:28, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Why is it that mention of her pregnancy has been removed from 'personal life' once again?? It has been made incredibly clear that she is pregnant, with several sources AND photos displaying a baby bump on US Magazine,EOnline, Hufftington Post etc.? Is everyone still denying this- she may never truly confirm the pregnancy herself? Miss.Indecisive (talk) 10:08, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

So what? What difference does it make if she is labeled pregnant? This is not a gossip website, and prenancy is not an end state (WP is written from a historical perspective). She apparently doesn't want to confirm it, and once the kid is born (assuming it is true) then you will have a verifiable statement to make. Arzel (talk) 13:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

This should put an end to all the "rumours": In this Daily Mail UK source, it says, "Congratulations to Scarlett Johansson who has announced she is expecting her first child." That should mean she has confirmed her pregnancy. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Funny, I don't see that sentence at all in the article, besides the Daily Mail is a tabloid. I should think we can come up with a better source than that. But in long scheme of things, how relevant is her pregnancy anyways. The eventual birth of a child is what will have lasting "notability" (for lack of a better term).--TriiipleThreat (talk) 17:57, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

There are several sources besides DailyMail which have mentioned her pregnancy, yet all seem to be refuted. It is relevant- many people reading these pages want to know the most current information about these people. If pregnancy is not "relevant", then why is it that for every other article the pregnancy of the person is mentioned? Miss.Indecisive (talk) 07:03, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Please see WP:V (WP:NOTTRUTH). Nymf (talk) 07:49, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2014

I just want to put this template

191.1.178.40 (talk) 19:32, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done Corvoe (speak to me) 19:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Mention of Johansson's musical contribution to "He's Just Not That Into You" IS relavent to filmography section

I re-instated my mention in the "Notes" column of the filmography table that Scarlett Johansson sang a song on the soundtrack of "He's Just Not That Into You". Isn't that what the "Notes" column is for? Additional pertinent info about a person's contribution? RobertGustafson (talk) 09:01, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2014

Scarlett Johansson has Danish citizenship.

177.12.3.81 (talk) 03:50, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Although her citizenship is not mentioned anywhere in the article.  NQ  talk 06:07, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Why not link to Christmas?

In Personal Life/General, why does Hanukkah link to the article but not Christmas? 2601:4:4A80:84:B4D9:8E67:40C4:1C13 (talk) 01:34, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Marriage report

I remember the struggle over not mentioning her pregnancy, since she never confirmed it herself and so the only "sources" were unattributed and anonymous rumors.

With marriage, though, there's documentary confirmation. People magazine here gives confirmation via a county clerk in Montana. Us Weekly here independently obtained confirmation from the clerk, and named the officiant. The debunking site GossipCop.com concurs. Given the paper trail, this certainly appears to meet WP:VERIFY.--Tenebrae (talk) 03:06, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Another editor inserted it. SO, I'm cleaning it up and making sure it's properly cited. --Tenebrae (talk) 04:55, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Remove redundant material

Wikipedia articles, without attention to the contrary, evolve to become hodgepodges of poorly integrated material; a first signs of this, in my experience, are often the appearance of cut-and-paste text sections drawn directly from sources without editing, from within and without wikipedia (therefore, in part plagiarism), and appearances of redundant text within articles. Here the same verbatim text appears in at least two places, in search "SodaStream" in the article. One of these needs to be reduced to being a pointer, and the second left in more or less its full form. Then, the whole of the article needs to be reviewed for the same problem (and for other unedited, unsourced c-n-p contributions). Cheers. 71.239.87.100 (talk) 15:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2015

Hi! Could someone edit the information about uncoming movies for Scarlett Johansson. Scarlett was confirmed for Captain America: Civil War in January for the Directors of the movie. Here the link: http://screenrant.com/captain-america-3-civil-war-scarlett-johansson/ Thank you! LiloB2 (talk) 18:02, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Done Mlpearc (open channel) 08:30, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Infobox image

So, there were several images that were uploaded last month, granted they are from 2012 but she hasn't changed much since then. I think the current file doesn't look natural, it's way more makeup than she usually wears and it's not a great headshot.

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LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:48, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Although I don't care for the expression in the suggested image, it is of much better quality than the current one so I'd go for the suggestion.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:04, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Yea, I know I'm not loving it either but it's better than the current lol LADY LOTUS • TALK 22:16, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

MOS:IMAGELOCATION

I don't care much about MOS:IMAGELOCATION with regard to this article, but I started this section so that I can discuss the matter with TriiipleThreat here instead of through WP:Dummy edits. As seen with this edit, TriiipleThreat stated, "I know typically these should alternate but I think this can fit here and is relevant to the section." And as seen with this edit, I stated, "WP:Dummy edit: Actually, per MOS:IMAGELOCATION, the images typically should not alternate; they should usually be right-adjusted. The alternating style is the rogue style.", and TriiipleThreat replied, "WP:DUMMYEDIT: that's for single images, it says 'Multiple images in the same article can be staggered right-and-left'."

TriiipleThreat, why do you think that the MOS:IMAGELOCATION rule of "In most cases, images should be right justified on pages, which is the default placement." only applies to single images? The text clearly states "images," states nothing about single images, and goes on to state, "If an exception to the general rule is warranted, forcing an image to justify on the left side of a page is done by placing a parameter in the image coding in the form |left." The fact that it notes that multiple images can be "staggered right-and-left" does not mean that the right-adjusted aspect is not still the general rule. Flyer22 (talk) 15:47, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm confused by this argument, and particularly why it's here. It seems that nothing is being disputed other than the wording of the MOS page, and no "actual" edits are taking place on this article. Shouldn't this discussion be on the MOS's talk page? This has nothing to do with Scarlett Johansson. Sock (tock talk) 15:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I agree, the default location is the right and is the preferred location. The reason why "Multiple images in the same article can be staggered right-and-left" is to avoid image stacking on one side of the screen. The reason why the wording says "can" as opposed to "should" is to allow for editorial discretion. This is not a one-size fits all solution.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 16:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Sock, unless TriiipleThreat is challenging the guideline, it makes more sense to have the discussion here instead of at the guideline talk page. I started it here because it concerns image placement in this article and understanding how MOS:IMAGELOCATION is supposed to work. While I am not bothered much by the left-adjusted images on this article, I would prefer that they are right-adjusted per MOS:IMAGELOCATION.

TriiipleThreat, I know that these matters can be a case-by-case thing. I simply wanted to clear up your statement that the images should typically alternate, since some editors think that is what we are automatically supposed to do with images at articles. Flyer22 (talk) 16:12, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Additional Content for Controversies Section

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Scarlett Johansson case opens up against French author Gregoire Delacourt. His novel La premiere chose qu'on regarde (The First Thing We Look At) incorporates a character which makes fraudulent use of Johansson's name, fame and image for commercial gain.

Johansson sued Delacourt for making false claims about her love life in the novel, and presenting her as a sex object. The character based on Johansson has two affairs, something that Johansson never experienced in her actual life. This was seen as defamatory. Johansson sought 50,000 euros, and that the book not be made into a movie. She was awarded €2500, and €2500 in legal costs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marciane13 (talk • contribs) 02:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

References

 Not done Celebrities have plenty of people stalking them or trying to make money from them surreptitiously. This section should contain examples of Johansson being controversial, not one of these strangers.--A21sauce (talk) 21:32, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Her last name being of Danish origin (from her father, as mentioned in the article), shouldn't it be pronounced "yohannson"? What is the source for it being pronounced "djohansson"? CielProfond (talk) 13:25, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

It is weird, because her last name is the Swedish spelling of that surname. The Danish spelling would be Johansen. Perhaps her distant relatives are from Sweden? Anyway, being Swedish myself, something along the lines of "yohannson" is indeed how it is pronounced. Not knowing phonetics myself, I can't update the page. Nymf (talk) 15:18, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Ah, according to List of Swedish Americans#cite_ref-19 her great grandfather was indeed Swedish. Nymf (talk) 15:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2015

173.206.4.9 (talk) 12:45, 4 August 2015 (UTC) Dear Editors, The birth place of where Scarlett Johannson was born is incorrect. She was born in Alberta, Canada. The place she grew up in is called Fort McMurray. This means she is Canadian.

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:37, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2016

In the beginning section it says that Scarlett grew up with "little money" in quotes. It is quoting a photo caption from a 2010 article in Glamour magazine. I would think this is false. By the time she was 18 she had been in 12 feature films. She also went to a private elementary school for acting in New York City. The tuition cost is 38k a year. I would think the idea of her having little money is far fetched. It doesn't provide and factual or reliable information. It simply quotes an obscure photo caption. Kc exactly (talk) 07:44, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. This kind of change wold need some discussion. Consider asking members of Wikiproject Actors about this kind of change. --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 16:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

spelling/usage

usage error, directional debut -> directorial debut. can't fix because locked. 104.51.49.171 (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

•  Done: Finally fixed. --V2Blast (talk) 16:03, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Endorsements

The last sentence of the 'Endorsements' section is horrible. I have no idea what to do except to just excise it. If someone not so bloodthirsty would take a stab at it, I will hold off, but I have an itchy trigger finger today. Makes me shudder. Rags (talk) 16:20, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

I have been bold, and made a change. If you wish to revert, please also make an improvement. Thank you. Rags (talk) 17:28, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm not a frequent user of talk pages, nor am I a frequent editor of articles. I just came to the page looking for info on her controversial relationship with Sodastream to find almost all information entirely removed. That's one of the more relevant talking points related to Johansson in many settings, it seems inappropriate for it to be completely excised based only on a complaint regarding form. 24.250.23.194 (talk) 20:00, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

It's mostly covered in the SodaStream article SodaStream#Controversy. NE Ent 20:50, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Small typo fix

Discography -> Other album appearances -> 2011 "I'll Be Home for Christmas" (duet) Dean Martin My Kind of Christimas: Should be "Christmas" instead of "Christimas"

Done. NE Ent 09:39, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Highest Grossing Actress

She has become the highest grossing actress in the world and the U.S. Is this an important point which should be added? Amanmohd2105 (talk) 00:36, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Lost Bayou Ramblers - Mammoth Waltz

The album that Scarlett Johansson appeared on is titled "Mammoth Waltz" not "Mammoth Walt". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.51.46.18 (talk) 15:26, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Name of child in infobox

Should the name of Johansson's child be included in the infobox? It seems to me that simply giving the number of children is the preferred option (per Template:Infobox person's "children" parameter:
"Only if independently notable themselves or particularly relevant. Number of children (e.g., three or 3), or list of names if notable, ... For privacy reasons, consider omitting the names of children of living persons, unless notable.
Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 20:00, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Early Life

What is the deal with the detailed background on her mom's family history? If her mother was "famous" in her own right, I could understand the detail about her family history. But the blurb: "Sloan's ancestors were Jewish immigrants from Poland and Minsk in the Russian Empire." is just ridiculous. What does that "factoid" have to do with anything? Does that hold true in the forward direction also? Because if it does, I want to insert my name and achievements into all my predecessor's Wiki pages. And I have plenty. Is there something special about a grandparent being a Jewish immigrant from Poland or Minsk that I'm not aware of? Somebody let me in on it. And NONE of this has ANYTHING to do with her "Early Life" - as the title of the section would indicate. It doesn't say: The Early Life of Scarlett's grandmother. Perhaps it should, just to be accurate. Or maybe just rename the section: "Scarlett's Family History". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.39.86 (talk) 21:38, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Surname pronunciations

Other sources indicate she is known by two different pronunciations. Can we show both in the article, not just one? --Saledomo (talk) 04:20, 16 November 2016 (UTC)