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Incorrect information about orchestra around 1978-80s
@Voceditenore: You wrote, "The orchestra hired its first business manager and placed an emphasis on stipends and scholarships which allowed the students twelve-hour days devoted to practicing, rehearsing and performing in concerts. They also began giving concerts which depended heavily on pops programming in open meadows, city streets, shopping centers and parks." What is your source for that information? It is incorrect. In 1978, 1979 and all the years since (I don't know about before that), the orchestra has been a totally paid for orchestra, i.e. full-scholarship plus room and board, and in some cases stipends. Indeed several of the players already had professional and when they were off in the summer they came to play in Colorado Phil. Your prose implies that orchestra members paid to be there. That is not the case. We were paid to be there. Furthermore, the concerts did not include any significant amount of pops concerts. Maybe one during the whole summer? We played concerts of major orchestral repertoire approximately every three to four days. So over the course of the eight weeks, there were probably 15 or 16 different programs of major orch repertoire. --TheClarinetGuytalk04:59, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't imply anything of the sort. In my view it quite clearly states that before 1978, it was part of Charles's philosophy that all the students should work for their room and board, regardless of their ability to fund it themselves. After the restructuring in 1978 it was no longer the case and that all students received stipends and scholarships which allowed them to rehearse and play full time. Note that the pop programming referred to the extra concerts they started giving in parks, shopping centers, etc. I have made that clearer now. All of this is sourced from the Bakemeier article which is in turn sourced from the archives of the NRO, contemporary press articles etc. Voceditenore (talk) 05:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
On a separate note, Cohler ("TheClarinetGuy"), please do not add "notable alumni" without a reference. It degrades the article. WP is not based on "personal knowledge". The fact that Elizabeth Pitcairn and Yolanda Kondonassis attended the CPO/NRO is mentioned nowhere in their WP articles. I eventually managed to find references for both. In future, I will remove all unreferenced additions. Voceditenore (talk) 06:31, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. But (1) in other lists of notable people associated with a page, I have not seen citations for each person used and while I understand your point that the linked pages don't mention NRO, I have seen that quite frequently on highly rated pages, and (2) as I thought those individuals are mentioned in the same source paper you mentioned above? I will be sure going forward to always either verify that the referenced page includes a mention, or to add an independent source. --TheClarinetGuytalk13:56, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
