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    Carlos Medina

    Hello SwisterTwister, I saw your edition in the article Draft:Carlos_Medina, may you please clarify your argument about notability. His work is publicly present in Venezuelan cities, including Caracas major art museums. Please, point me out in the right direction. 23:07, 29 December 2016 (UTC)MaoGo (talk)

    Hello SwisterTwister, I corrected the edition. Sorry for the delay, I have already corrected the edition, I wait for you for the next step. MaoGo (talk) 13:57, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    03:38:36, 8 January 2017 review of submission by 75.75.196.84


    I copied the MSU reference that showsthat Dr. Edwards is a Distinguished Professor from the end of the first sentence to right after the words "Distinguished Professor." It is on the MSU "University-Community Senior Fellows" website. I also found another MSU article that lists her as a distinguished professor and included that after the title of "distinguished professor." Finally, I included the citations (that I also had later in the article) to support her national and international recognition for her family literacy programs in the 2nd paragraph to further establish her notability more clearly. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.196.84 (talk) 03:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft

    I removed Facebook and fan pages from the references. I believe it is overzealous to overlook the other 16 references here. Billboard, Oxygen, Uproxx, and Complex are all major media publications and detail the subject in depth. He fits criterias 1 and 10 as a musician for WP:MUSICBIOHennygang (talk) 06:14, 8 January 2017 (UTC)85.144.161.238 (talk) 10:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. First of all, thank you for taking the time to review the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Amsterdam_Metalfest). It has been declined due to "lack of notable sources" - I wonder, however, in how far a non-scientific subject like music/bands/events can ever have sources which are notable enough to match your criteria. In the industry this is an up and coming event, I have done research and have copied/been inspired by other festival pages which have less (notable) references than this one. Now you have suggested the page as 'miscellaneous' and it's considered for deletion. I humbly object! References are a thesis, interviews, third-party informative websites. As a writer/journalist I am aware of the necessity of reliable sources, and I second that emotion. I do think, however, your critique in this case is a bit harsh. I am wondering what needs to be done the article to be accepted. Cheers.85.144.161.238 (talk) 10:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    16:39:41, 8 January 2017 review of submission by Nishant Kharel

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nishant Kharel (talk • contribs) 16:39, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    21:05:37, 8 January 2017 review of submission by Cpsarason


    Hi there! Thanks so much for the speedy review. I am uncertain how many sources are required for notability here, as book reviews for Rosenbaum's are not as notable as the news articles and primary materials related to his community organizing work, which are in fact much more substantive (and, since his book has not yet made it to press, are actually around, although they will be shortly). Any suggestions on how notability might be documented in a better way here?

    Thanks! Christian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpsarason (talk • contribs) 21:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft Ivan Polyakov

    Hi, SwisterTwister! Thank you for watching my draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ivan_Polyakov You mentioned that it's simply a business PR listing. I obviously can't understand why it is so. This article is a translation of the article in Russian segment - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 I will highly appreciate your advise on how it can be improved as from my point of view the sources are reliable (as they are considered so in russian version) and "find sources" also gives enough links, and amount of public (non-commercial) activity and awards (gratitudes) from high ranked persons also shows the fact that ther person is recognized by other people. References are also done to the correct and reliable sources, e.g. official websites of The government of the Russian Federation, Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the Russian Federation, the Russian Orthodox Church, etc. I understand that references are in Russian, but it is mentioned in each reference. Or it should be done in other manner?

    Best regards, Ivp.office (talk) 22:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    22:55:02, 8 January 2017 review of submission by 14aaa


    Is this getting better?

    Request on 06:21:38, 9 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Penuliswiki39


    Hi and thank you for reviewing my article.

    I would like to know more about what you meant by "no automatic inherited notability". Chong Ket Pen in my country is a really notable person. His company does the pretty much all the roadworks and maintenance. Furthermore, he has does A LOT of philanthropic contributions (not listed on wikipedia yet) and one of it is that he is working on building affordable homes for the people in my country. He has been bestowed the title of "Dato Sri" which is the highest title conferred by our Malaysian ruler on the most deserving recipients who have contributed greatly to the nation or state, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_styles_and_titles#Dato.27_Sri

    I've read through wikipedia's guidelines on the notability of people and I honestly think Chong Ket Pen meets the requirement unlike this guy Tey Por Yee who is just a regular Malaysian businessmen or this guy Mohd Nazifuddin Najib who is nothing but our Prime Minister's son. I don't know how their wikipedia article is published but not mine on Chong Ket Pen.

    As for my sources, a lot of it is linked back to Protasco Berhad, doesn't that count as a reliable source? It's a public listed company and they are indeed required by law to declare and announce everything they do and have done for public knowledge.

    I'd really love to know how I can improve this article to ensure it gets approved. Appreciate the help.

    Thanks!

    Penuliswiki39 (talk) 06:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Rishi Raj Singh Page

    this is regarding Rishi Raj Singh Page. I saw your comment . Could you please wait at least a week before you propose for delete. I am fetching more details of him and its a article more people search for. You might not know him better . Appreciate your patience.

    Draft of Scott Neeson page

    Thanks for assisting with getting this right. The previous Scott Neeson page was deleted for self-promotion, so I have attempted to strip this back and make it objective - I've possibly stripped out too much.

    Re. notability - rather than solely Scott Neeson's position in 20th Century Fox, I believe that it is his transition from top Hollywood executive responsible for some of the largest films in history, to NGO founder working in a Cambodian slum that makes him notable, as per Wikipedia's notability guideline that a person "should be "worthy of notice"[1] or "note"[2] – that is, "remarkable"[2] or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded"[1] within Wikipedia as a written account of that person's life". This transition has been covered extensively by reputable independent secondary sources including the Wall Street Journal, Variety, and People Magazine, all of whom have focused on his unique circumstances.

    I believe Scott Neeson also qualifies under the Additional Criteria - "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times."

    I welcome some guidance on further information that should be added - the majority available focuses on Scott Neeson's transition rather than successful prior career.

    Thanks again for your help :)

    CallumLow (talk) 08:41, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    11:19:52, 9 January 2017 review of submission by Peter Seligman


    Hi - I agree that I didn't include verifiable data. However I have many patents I can reference. I didn't find a template for those. I also had trouble editing one after insertion. I don't agree that this company could have this on its website. It ceased to exist in the 80s. This is history rather than a plug. I suppose the main thing is that the soldering iron became ubiquitous and 50 years after the company disappeared the iron is still in use everywhere. Should the entry be titled "Scope Soldering Iron"? Peter Seligman (talk) 11:19, 9 January 2017 (UTC) Peter[reply]

    Westmount Charter School AfD close

    Hi. I note that you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westmount Charter School with a comment about "the clear consensus we keep any K-12 school regardless of the sourcing concerns". Can I ask where you got the idea that there is consensus to keep secondary schools even if there are concerns about sourcing? WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is often invoked, but it makes clear that independent sources are necessary. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:05, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Brian Juden Page

    Hello David, Thank you for accepting my article on Brian Juden and for making some minor changes. BwanaHewa (talk) 16:08, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Unsigned MfD nominations

    Please sign your miscellany for deletion nominations. Otherwise, the managing bot mislists them in the old business section under a clearly erroneous date (i.e. January 1, 1970), making work for others to cleanup. I have fixed many of them myself (e.g. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Josh Bogert and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:GleneaglesKL/sandbox today alone), and I know CambridgeBayWeather has fixed some as well (e.g. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Kirpa Singh Dutt). Best Regards, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 19:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:Paul Bright, children's author

    Comments to latest edits to Paul Bright page: You have requested major book reviews for works by Paul Bright. While few picture books get reviews in the national press, Paul’s latest publication ‘The Best Bear in All the World’ (he was one of four authors) received coverage in The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, The New York Times, Prospect Magazine, The Bookseller and many other national and international publications. I have added some of these as references, but obviously not all. One reason for wanting to create a Wikipedia page for Paul Bright is to remove ambiguity following the publicity around ‘The Best Bear …’. Many articles and web searches erroneously link to the Wikipedia page of another Paul Bright, an American producer of films, mainly of a homosexual nature. It is much easier to correct these erroneous links if there is a correct Wikipedia article to link to. I hope you can now give your approval to this article. Thank you. MKIJFry (talk) 20:44, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    00:24:29, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Powderday


    Dear reviewer, I changed some of the references to include directly some major and notable written sources. Can you please review the draft? Kind greetings!

    Powderday (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the review! Can you please elaborate?


    As you can see, there are numerous links to the TPC website (in links on the draft). I hereby provide 7 references (some in depth) from third party media sources and a written publication. Can you please elaborate on what you feel is wrong with these links (one by one, please)?

    In my opinion these links show that: -TPC is known internationally, and even had articles translated directly ino two other languages (more translated articles can be provided) on blogs and news sites. -the site is referenced by mainstream sources, and mentioned as an inspiration by well known figures (that do have their own wiki page) -its artwork (because it is mainly a visual arts collective) is used in textbooks and articles

    1. https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/43173-trump-today-us-medienplattform-breitbart/ 2. http://web.archive.org/web/20140803114111/http://rln.fm/arhiv/politics/foreigner/1474-pamyatnik-besplatnomu-syru.html 3. https://euroislam.pl/search/cube 4. https://web.archive.org/web/20120118145225/http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/editorial/story.html?id=47798a07-e084-4ef3-8140-f832d4a18d10 5. http://web.archive.org/web/20130527142118/http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/peoples-communities-cube/ 6. https://snob.ru/magazine/entry/3692 7. https://philosophynow.org/issues/101/The_Righteous_Mind_by_Jonathan_Haidt

    I understand concerns about political activism on wikipedia, and maybe the original website was too much of a 'commercial', but I think blocking sites like TPC does no credit to the "encyclopedic" character of Wikipedia. The website has been edited and provides unbiased information.

    A visual satire blog with 45000 facebook likes can hardly be discarded as an insignificant upstart. This is not the Onion, but then again: it is not because an art collective does not sell to the Guggenheim that it should not be mentioned in an encyclopedia, right?

    Another small (Flemish) satirical publication I know, is far less known than TPC and still has a wiki page. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27t_Scheldt Example of a very well known German satirical publication, whose wiki page does not provide better "links" than the TPC entry (in my humble opinion): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(magazine).

    I await your response with much interest,

    Greetings


    Tank you for your response!

    My own response:

    Quality of reference publications: 'notable", "independent", "major ones"

    Some of them are simply blogs as you rightly say.

    Some of them are well known media outlets and independent third parties: RT Deutsch, Washington Times. One of them is a book with many reviews on Amazon, Goodreads, etc. :"The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion". Have you read this book? Have you verified the correspondence between the author of this book and the owner of the TPC website? One more in depth article (in Russian: do you speak Russian? Have you verified its content?) is in a high quality non-partisan Russian publication: Сноб (журнал).

    Can you elaborate on why the above mentioned sources are not independent or notable? Your comments on the quality of these sources are rather "vague". I sent you 7 examples on your talk page with the request to elaborate on each and every one of them, yet you have not done so. In this way, we will not be able to reach an agreement. Your statement of "non notable" should become falsifiable: what type of reference, in this context of visual satire, would be "notable" enough for you?

    If these sources remain, in your opinion "not notable", will you proceed to delete the entry of the washington times, RT deutsch from Wikipedia (to name a few)?



    Listed sources are simply announcements, interviews, listings, mentions and blogs

    I will give a description of the listed sources below (many, many more can be provided, I just handpicked a few to help you point out where you feel they are not correct):

    1. https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/43173-trump-today-us-medienplattform-breitbart/

    Mentioned as part of the new right-wing "alternative media".

    2. http://web.archive.org/web/20140803114111/http://rln.fm/arhiv/politics/foreigner/1474-pamyatnik-besplatnomu-syru.html

    Article about the assistance (with visual Art) of the TPC community and it creator in the Norman mayorial campaign (Oklahoma).

    3. https://euroislam.pl/search/cube

    One of many polish translations of articles on the cube, showing its international notability.

    4. https://web.archive.org/web/20120118145225/http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/editorial/story.html?id=47798a07-e084-4ef3-8140-f832d4a18d10

    Syndicated columnist bases an article on the TPC website. The old link is dead, so only the archive antry is provided (jpegs/pdf's of the old site can be provided if necessary).

    5. http://web.archive.org/web/20130527142118/http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/peoples-communities-cube/

    Once more, an old web archive, but this link shows that the TPC website (and its creator) once maintained an informal column on the online versoin of the washington times (major, independent news source).

    6. https://snob.ru/magazine/entry/3692

    Printed magazine (50.000 copies) from Russia. The entry is old, admitted, but that should be no problem. It's a review of the website essentially calling it a succesful startup.

    7. https://philosophynow.org/issues/101/The_Righteous_Mind_by_Jonathan_Haidt

    Acclaimed book. The TPC owner Atbashian (and the TPC contributors) helped create artwork for it.

    8. The september 2013 issue of the NRA magazine (first freedom) featured a printed version of a TPC article created by one of its contributors (Ivan Betinov). This magazine has a 4.000.000 (!!!) copy reach.

    As an extra: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/sandra-fluke-brings-her-testimony-across-the-nation/2012/10/08/b7bc61f0-0be0-11e2-a310-2363842b7057_story.html?utm_term=.fe5fa53fc328.


    Once more, please elaborate on the above sources, some of whom are important references or at least acknowledgments of the notability of the TPC website in the alternative media.

    Many, many more links will be provided on demand.


    Regardging your comment; "Well, to specify, the Blogspot ones are the blogs, and then there are a few instances where their own website is cited; overall, there's still not enough major independent news from major publications to add the needed substance."


    1. The sentence "there are a few instances where their own website is cited": whose website? Cited by whom? When? To what sources does this relate?

    2. there's still not enough major independent news from major publications to add the needed substance. Your comment did not go into details. Why is the Washington Times, the Washington Posts, RT Deutsch etc... no major independent source? Please elaborate, as requested. By using vague terminology like you do, anybody can delete any page based on his/her own preferences.

    Please elaborate.

    Powderday (talk) 22:08, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    Powderday (talk) 13:12, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply] 

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Powderday (talk • contribs) 07:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]



    Thanks again for the swift review. We clearly differ in opinion but I appreciate your efforts. I think there is a misunderstanding, so please reconsider after reading the comment below:

    I quote: By "their own website": People's Cube's own website, and even if it's here to support their own website's information, that alone won't establish what notability here needs; The links I provided (I will once again provide them at the bottom of this post) doe not contain the TPC website itself. Can it be that this is a misunderstanding and you have checked the wrong links? I'm sorry if I contributed to this confusion. Please elaborate on the links I provide, if you can do that? As you will see, these links contain: written publications, third party news sites (like The Washington Times), mentions in foreign publications... Etcetera. Thanks in advance.

    as for the news publications currently listed, (1) it's still not enough and (2) they are still too close as simply being news stories about the political announcements and activities. If there's additional major independent news from major news publications, there's no limit number, as long as they are still significant and in-depth. SwisterTwister talk 23:44, 10 January 2017 (UTC) 1. Not enough? Can you falsify this statement? What amount of news publications will be enough? Isn't this becoming a bit subjective? 2. News stories about ..... and activities: isn't that what it's all about? If news stories about your activities are not considered arguments pro "notability", than what are? Powderday (talk) 00:22, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    THE LIST: (as mentioned before, after reviewing and elaborating on these examples, I will gladly provide many more if necessary.)

    1. https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/43173-trump-today-us-medienplattform-breitbart/

    Mentioned as part of the new right-wing "alternative media".

    2. http://web.archive.org/web/20140803114111/http://rln.fm/arhiv/politics/foreigner/1474-pamyatnik-besplatnomu-syru.html

    Article about the assistance (with visual Art) of the TPC community and it creator in the Norman mayorial campaign (Oklahoma).

    3. https://euroislam.pl/search/cube

    One of many polish translations of articles on the cube, showing its international notability.

    4. https://web.archive.org/web/20120118145225/http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/editorial/story.html?id=47798a07-e084-4ef3-8140-f832d4a18d10

    Syndicated columnist bases an article on the TPC website. The old link is dead, so only the archive antry is provided (jpegs/pdf's of the old site can be provided if necessary).

    5. http://web.archive.org/web/20130527142118/http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/peoples-communities-cube/

    Once more, an old web archive, but this link shows that the TPC website (and its creator) once maintained an informal column on the online versoin of the washington times (major, independent news source).

    6. https://snob.ru/magazine/entry/3692

    Printed magazine (50.000 copies) from Russia. The entry is old, admitted, but that should be no problem. It's a review of the website essentially calling it a succesful startup.

    7. https://philosophynow.org/issues/101/The_Righteous_Mind_by_Jonathan_Haidt

    Acclaimed book. The TPC owner Atbashian (and the TPC contributors) helped create artwork for it.

    8. The september 2013 issue of the NRA magazine (first freedom) featured a printed version of a TPC article created by one of its contributors (Ivan Betinov). This magazine has a 4.000.000 (!!!) copy reach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Powderday (talk • contribs) 00:25, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 01:22:40, 10 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Louise Poulton

    Just wanting to show how notable Cris' career is becoming
Please review the latest references added, many are independant film review sites as well as the ABC shops ad for 'Gallipoli' tv mini series- the most expensive and ambitious production ever on Australian tv, where cris' name is listed first in the 'starring' section. Also included is the cast link to 'The Legend of Ben Hall' feature film with his character, and he am listed on the Wikipedia page for the film too


    Louise Poulton (talk) 01:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    03:15:19, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Mcintouch


    Hi There! Thanks for reviewing my recent contribution. I was wondering as, you mentioned my submitted references are not "enough to satisfy standards as they are still too announcement-like". I'm just trying to understand what exactly do I need to submit. This is a retail chain with over 21 locations. Similar companies like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Colombe_Coffee_Roasters and [[1]] are not different when compared to what I've also submitted.

    I'd appreciate any help you could offer.

    Thank you

    Archiving closed ANI threads

    Hi ST, this is a reminder that when archiving closed ANI threads, it is important to wait till at least 24 hours have passed after the close, before archiving. This gives all participants and observers a chance to see the results of the thread. Because Wikipedia editors live all around the world, in various timezones, and with various sleep, work, and log-in schedules, 24 hours is necessary to give everyone a chance to log on and view the close. The best way to avoid archiving threads too quickly is to Google utc time, subtract one day from that, and then don't archive any thread that was closed any later than that. Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 06:20, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Furio De Monaco

    Hi SwisterTwister, can you please reopen the above. I was half asleep, or on automatic when I put the Speedy Keep in. Although I now think he is notable, the full seven days hadn't passed, and consensus hasn't been reached. I can't fault you on the speed of closing, fast action is needed to reduce the backlog of new page review. scope_creep (talk) 11:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    About Rejection of Sustainable Manufacturing draft

    Hi David,

    thanks for your comments on the Sustainable Manufacturing draft. I agree that the concept of sustainable manufacturing could be partially overlapped with the "Sustainable Design" concept. The same entry could be added as an example, similarly to the the case of sustainable agriculture. However ,in my opinion, it could be useful adding a specific new entry due to the following points:

    • The Sustainable Manufacturing is related to "making" physical objects rather than "design" sustainable products
    • The Sustainable Manufacturing is a very wide concept that involves specific constrains at industry level
    • The Sustainable Manufacturing is already a policy and a research objective for which wikipedia do not provide mention
    • The previous examples of sustainable product design are mainly devoted to the simple design process while sustainable manufacturing mainly involves infrastructure and mechanism to change current production processes, in such a sense the Sustainable Manufacturing is an implementation process of bottom-up technologies.

    Please, consider revising your choice. I would propose to add a mention to sustainable manufacturing as an example of sustainable design for production systems while I would leave the entry. I look forward your kind reply

    Best regards

    Carlo — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarloBrondi (talk • contribs) 11:48, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    13:58:52, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Vgaidash



    Dear Sir/Madam, I have struggled to rewrite the initial deleted article and to make it look like an encyclopedia entry avoidng comparisons and self-promotion epithets. Where possible I have added the links to sources, some of them are in Russian/Ukrainian. Yes source number one is an announcemens. I should be most grateful if you could advise me what is wrong with it, since other entries such as this one featured today - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki_Koechlin also has announcements in it sources. Source number two to my draft is not an announcement.

    May I assure you that the article cannot and is not intended as advertisement since Ukrgassydobuvayynya sells all its gas to its mother company Naftogaz - that is Ukrgasvydobuvannya has the only wholesale client! So the text does not target any clients!:)

    I am writing the article about the major gas extraction company in Ukraine and as a writer I think the fact that it was rated by an independent rating agency an number one taxpair by volume of taxes paid to the country's budget. I have added the necessary link №2 in the references.

    Maybe you could kindly inform me which parts of the article look in your view as advertisement? I really need your feedback and I do not have any intention of cheating the Wikipedia. I just want to create an information oriented article. Regards, Volodymyr Gaidash


    Regards,

    Volodymyr Gaidash

    Hello

    FYI --JustBerry (talk) 16:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I have taken your suggestions and improved the links. Is that suitable to move forward? ZooFriend (talk) 16:25, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 20:02:06, 10 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by 38.98.118.210


    Hi there, thank you for your help in developing my first post. I'm trying to understand what constitutes nobility. The person I'm writing about has appeared on the tv show Nashville, which was nominated for Golden Globes and Emmy awards. His reach is about 8.1 million people per month and can be heard across 63% of the U.S.A (http://compassmedianetworks.com/index.php/2017/01/04/townsquare-announces-multi-year-syndication-extension-with-compass-media-networks/). Other DJs with similar backgrounds are also featured on Wikipedia. Examples are as follows:

    Lorianne Crook - Wikipedia Blair Garner - Wikipedia JoJo Wright - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker_(disc_jockey)

    Thank you for your help, 38.98.118.210 (talk) 20:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)Steven[reply]


    38.98.118.210 (talk) 20:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    draft approval

    Hello i have this draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Soo_Yeon_Lee

    There are references from USATT, NY times and many many more, but it still dont get approval. one of the comments was "The USATT, Khan, LASplash, and ITTF articles are the best here" There are references from all these suggested websites.

    Furthermore,your last comment was about tennis notability. The sport is table tennis ;)

    Thanks Pavloscpl (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Felonious Munk article

    I'd like to improve that article, but I'm unsure about what qualifies. There are correspondents from The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore who have articles. What makes him different? I'm also unsure about why a theater show that was performed in multiple cities and reviewed by multiple publications doesn't qualify for "notability". I do understand the regional Emmy Award not qualifying. However, the viral youtube video series, including the various national TV appearances that followed would qualify, no? There are a number of youtube presenters present on wiki who have no other notability beyond youtube. The other question I have, as I've contributed to other articles, is what citations qualify as acceptable? A review in the Washington Post doesn't in this article, but does in others. As Munk has appeared on CNN, Fox, and Comedy Central, and those aren't considered sufficient for notability, what can i do to improve this article?

    Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doobybrother1972 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 23:41:08, 10 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Chantireviews


    Hello. I was trying to create an entry for our Chanticleer Authors Conference now that we have gained some notoriety. I tried to simply report the facts, not talking about pricing or early bird deals etc. I don't want to spend any more time on this if there is no point, but it does seem that pages like this are possible, example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolinas_Writers_Conference

    I can't see much difference between that page and ours except that they list some of their faculty who are NYT best sellers. We also have NYT best sellers on our faculty but I thought that mentioning such a thing would seem like a sales pitch.

    Please let me know if name dropping with a faculty list, or other changes would make a difference. Thanks

    Chantireviews (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    12:06:33, 11 January 2017 review of submission by Brx8r


    Hi SwisterTwister, I gather from your response that you take issue with Donnelly's career being linked closely with Penn & Teller, or Penn Jillette specifically - and a few comedians. But I assure you the sources are there for references to Donnelly specifically. I've also added a couple more sources about awards and the impact/reach Donnelly has through his podcast work - an influence I am aware is growing rapidly and foresee his inclusion here inevitable. Some of the existing sources come from major LV newspapers, Las Vegas Sun, Review Journal, and Las Vegas Weekly. This is more of a question about how to improve the article than a request for re-review at this stage. I'm by no means an expert on this subject. I more wanted to get the ball rolling as I'm sure other people would be able to provide better information than me. This has been the case for previous articles I've written which have grown infinitely better through user contributions than the stub I created. It seems things have really changed here since then though. Thank you for your time. Brx8r (talk) 12:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    20:01:56, 11 January 2017 review of submission by WashCapsFan


    This is my first Wiki page, so please bear with me. Not sure of the rejection was for a lack of references, or a judgment of the subject not being notable enough. If the latter, not sure how to address that. I'm a big fan of University of Virginia soccer, and Todd Hitt was a top player. Even though they changed the way assists are counted, Todd is still in the top 10 all time. If the assist mechanism wasn't changed, he'd not doubt be the all time assist leader.

    In addition, Todd coached a lot of the players who went on to great soccer careers. He started the Reston Football Club, funding it with his own money, and RFC teams went on to win a large number of state and national championships. He really is an important youth soccer influence and a major UVA soccer player.

    The picture that I submitted was sent to me by the University of Virginia athletic department. They love Todd Hitt there. He was a big player, and he also gave a lot to the school. You can ask them yourself.

    One problem I have is finding online references, since his UVA career was so many years ago. I can probably come up with some print references, if there's a way for me to scan them and submit them.

    I hope this is helpful. I'm a fan of the team and feel like Todd Hitt should have a page and should also be one of the notable UVA players.

    Found this video of Coach Hitt talking to a reporter after winning the Virginia State Championship. Gives you a sense of him as a coach. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGoVVNHbFLk

    Thanks for listening. WashCapsFan (talk) 23:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 21:03:17, 11 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Tanis604



    Tanis604 (talk) 21:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. There are many examples of award winning broadcasters with approved Wikipedia articles. Why has this one been denied? Tanis604 (talk) 21:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    A kitten for you!

    Thanks for being so helpful in IRC! :)

    Cwangc (talk) 21:25, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission Rejection - Gordon Kipping

    Hi David, You recently reviewed my article on architect Gordon Kipping and did not approve it for publication. Your reason was because it was "not satisfying our standards and policies and this still isn't far from it because it simply mirrors what would be found in his own websites and listings, something that articles are not used for here; the awards are still minor and there's never any automatic inherited notability from clients, because that would still be advertising; basically this suggests it's simply too soon in his career." This simply isn't true. He is an established and recognized person in the architecture community and has produced works that are very notable. I referenced many sources that did not come from his own website and listings, that I found independently from his own sites. He has been published numerous times and worked on many significant projects. Also there are many articles on Wikipedia about architects that are much less notable than he is. I can point them out for you if you'd like. Please let me know how I can get this article published because I think it is important information to anyone studying, practicing, or interested in Architecture. Thank you. Simme207

    New Entry - Papadimitriou

    I saw your recent comment on my talk page stating that the subject - Odysseas Papadimitriou - is "Only best known for the company and there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else regardless and none of this satisfies our policies." If being best known for a company disqualifies an entrepreneur from having his/her own page, then how do these pages exist: Tim Chen, Kenneth Lin (entrepreneur), Candice Galek and Elizabeth Holmes? I really don't see anything that distinguishes them from the subject of my draft.


    Surfjk (talk) 23:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for your feedback so far, but it seems to me that inherited notability is a moot point here. Wikipedia’s basic-notability guidelines state that: "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject."

    If you simply Google "Odysseas Papadimitriou," you'll see nearly 1,000 news results. For example, Time recently included him in its list of important American voices: http://time.com/collection/american-voices/. That seems like significant coverage to me. He even has a number of patents in his own name, too: https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=pts&source=hp&q=odysseas+papadimitriou&oq=odysseas+pap&gs_l=hp.3.0.0l3j0i10k1j0j0i22i30k1l5.1614.3435.0.4755.13.11.0.2.2.0.145.1024.8j3.11.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..0.12.936.0..35i39k1j0i131k1j0i20k1.JVdjo9YmZ2I.

    Furthermore, Wikipedia’s notability guidelines conclude that: “People who meet the basic criteria may be considered notable without meeting the additional criteria.” And that leads me to believe Mr. Papadimitriou’s obvious basic notability warrants his own entry.

    Surfjk (talk) 03:00, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I really don't see how "inherited notability" fits here. Wikipedia's guidelines state that, "An organization may be notable, but individual members (or groups of members) do not "inherit" notability due to their membership. A corporation may be notable, but its subsidiaries do not "inherit" notability from being owned by the corporation." Mr. Papadimitriou is neither a member nor a subsidiary of his company; he is the founder and CEO. How can you inherit notability from something that you predated and, in fact, created? For example, does Bill Harley fail to qualify simply because most people associate "Harley" with the motorcycle brand? Both have Wikipedia entries. Does Eduardo Saverin not qualify because he's only notable for Facebook? Both have Wikipedia entries. And is Charlie Munger undeserving of an entry because he's known for his association with Warren Buffet? Both have Wikipedia entries.

    The bottom line is that Mr. Papadimitriou is notable in his own right, as evidenced by his extensive media coverage and status as a recognized expert on personal finance. If every successful entrepreneur was considered notable only because of the business he created, and every inventor was merely an extension of his invention, there would be far fewer entries on Wikipedia and we would know a lot less about the important people influencing various aspects of our daily lives.

    If we can't agree on this fundamental point, I think we'll need to get a second opinion from another reviewer.

    Surfjk (talk) 19:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, I just wanted to make sure you saw my last message. Please let me know. Thanks!


    Surfjk (talk) 03:38, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft: Armend Rexhepagiqi

    Hello SwisterTwister. I did as you said , I added some major independent news on the page that I created for Albanian Kosovar singer Draft:Armend Rexhepagiqi. Thank you for helping me.

    Jérôme Havre ‎

    Could you give Jérôme Havre ‎a break? We're trying to recruit new editors. We're trying to look after the articles created during the meetup and PRODing them is not helpful. I'm pretty sure we can establish notability for an articst who was an artist in residence at Canada's largest art museum. Thanks. Mduvekot (talk) 03:37, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    04:42:08, 12 January 2017 review of submission by Kangelone



    Hi SwisterTwister, not sure whether I am doing the right thing, but have resubmitted the article for review and hoping to get further feedback as I have added independent news links to the article. Do I need to set these up as references also?

    Kindest regards, Kathy Angelone Kangelone (talk) 04:42, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    07:15:00, 12 January 2017 review of submission by Powderday


    Dear reviewer, thanks for your earlier comments. I changed some of the links and updated the links to books and written sources. I think your concerns about third party notability have been resolved. Kind regards


    Powderday (talk) 07:28, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Re: Your submission at Articles for creation: Georges Vajda (January 12)

    Thanks for reviewing my submission of a draft for Georges Vajda last night. I skipped over the drafting/AfC process and created the article directly now. What should happen to the old draft?

    I'm not sure what happened in the draft process to result in an article that was only a single non-sensical heading. I am not familiar with the "Draft" process, as I have only created articles directly in the past. It appeared at some point that I was supposed to explain why I was reviving an old draft, but the summery comment that I input somehow became the entire article!

    I believe the article I created meets the standard for relevance and notability, given that it appears on the French Wikipedia already, and that the sources cited are solid and objective. --Think Fast (talk) 15:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission declined for Draft:Grace VanderWaal

    I saw your decline of the submission for Draft:Grace VanderWaal with a summary stating that "Submission is about a person not yet shown to meet notability guidelines". It does appear that this individual already has an article at Grace VanderWaal. Am I missing something? Alansohn (talk) 16:52, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)== Submission declined for Draft: Violeta Autumn == Thanks for reviewing the Violeta Autumn page. I saw your decline of the submission for it Draft:Violeta Autumn I am continuing to edit and add more information and sources showing her notability as an architect and planner at a time when women were not accepted as architects . Of particular note is her work on rebuilding one town after World War II. She also has a lot of hidden work that she did for other architects. At what point should I resubmit? She was a notable person but a lot of her work is in print form. User:Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 10;05, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I have done significant work to this page adding some of her notable works with reference, her notability was not just as an architect but also in government and planning developing the City of Sausalito. Would you please review again and reconsider? I have other people scanning drawings of the buildings she has done. If you accepted this page then they could add information directly. Keep in mind that this was at a time when women did not typically take credit for their work. Thank you! Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)(Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC))[reply]

    Request on 19:33:10, 12 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Socrates6



    Socrates6 (talk) 19:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners


    Hi, first of all, I would like to thank you for reviewing our company's web page. I am requesting a re-review because I believe that I have made appropriate adjustments to errors. I deleted all PR related news and used information from news sources such as bloomberg or WSJ that conducted independent reviews on our company. Please let me know if you find any problems. You can shoot me an email to scho@shorecp.com

    Thanks

    Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners


    Hi SwisterTwister, thank you so much for your input, and especially for your fast reply. I removed all business announcements and changed my sources to news that were written by journalists as lead authors. Could you be kind enough to look over it again and provide feedback? I really appreciate your help.

    Thanks

    Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners


    Hi SwisterTwister, thank you for your feedback once again. Sorry for disturbing you multiple times, but we're really eager to launch our page.

    I think I understand the logic of your argument, but I am not a 100% clear. As a result, I simply removed all references that pointed to articles containing information regarding our company's financials, funding, etc. However, this left us with no choice but to get rid of references altogether, so I am wondering if we can launch the page as it is without any references. Since our company is relatively young, we don't have much coverage from major news publications, and it is really hard finding independent articles that don't introduce us in numbers. After all, we are known in Chicago for starting out small with personal investments from our founders and raising $112.5 from $10 million of initial investments. What can I do if I have trouble finding independent articles? Please let me know, your help much appreciated!

    Aritcle: Michael Coyne, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_Coyne

    "Regardless of publications and names listed, still not enough for actual independent notability in Wikipedia policy and it's simply too soon"

    Hi David I have cleaned up the citations for the article, at least for those available on-line the others are physical publications, if you need more please let me know. The article has been re-submitted.

    Could you please explain the "it's simply too soon", Michael has been a world renown photographer to over 30 years and we probably don't need to wait until he dies before adding an article about him to Wiki.

    thanks gt Gtinkler (talk) 03:07, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Setting up an archive bot?

    Hey ST! Hope you are doing well. As this talk page is quite long, I was wondering if you would like to set up an archive bot? I can do it for you if you want! --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:47, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    You're welcome to, yes, I've taken some of it bit by bit, but any help is welcome. SwisterTwister talk 04:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you I will set one up right now (and set it to 30 days for the moment). That way, most of the recent threads will be there, but the older ones can be easily archived. (I like the bot archiving a lot!) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    OK done! As the bot runs once in 24 hours, I guess it will be a few hours until the first archiving happens. But after that, it works quite well! No need to manually archive anymore. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:59, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 13:45:08, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Ajurisic


    Hi SwisterTwister!

    As for the notability of his contributions and the importance of “his field”, please consider the following facts. Cryptography plays an indispensable role in the digital world for data protection and, without it, modern data communications and storage systems and online services would be unimaginable.

    In particular, RC4 has been the most widely used cipher on the Internet and A5/1 has been the mostly used cipher in mobile communications. Jovan Golic was the first to cryptanalyze these two ciphers at Eurocrypt ’97.

    He was also among the first to cryptanalyze Bluetooth cipher widely used for short-range communications, at Eurocrypt 2002. He also found a weakness of the Japanese encryption standard MUGI, which together with a follow-up work caused it to be recently withdrawn. His results on nonlinear filter generators at FSE ‘96 had a deep impact on proprietary encryption systems. (And so on. ) Existing Wikipedia entries and citations clearly support these facts. In the nineties, he published in prestigious publications many influential papers significantly promoting the area of stream ciphers, which had been previously constrained mainly to proprietary and secret encryption used in the military and other similar systems.

    Ajurisic (talk) 13:45, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    ku'ualoha ho'omanawanui entry

    Dear SisterTwister,

    Thank you for reviewing my entry. I'm interested in improving it for notability, but had a comment and a question.

    It may not be obvious, but the Hawaiian Airlines Magazine is one of the major sources of journalistic reports, in terms of feature articles. In the islands, we have one major newspaper, so journalists often end up having to go to touristic venues for their more in-depth reporting. Along with Honolulu Magazine, Hawaiian Airlines Magazine is one of a handful of established venues for cultural and social reporting of major artistic, business, and literary figures. Are you not considering the specific landscapes of regional news, to evaluate reliability? Are you only looking at newspapers in major cities?

    Here are the journalistic and other awards won by this magazine for reporting-- http://www.hanahou.com/pages/about.asp?PageID=2

    Also, why doesn't news of an award given by the Modern Language Association--which is THE main professional organization of the English discipline--qualify as notable? If you are only looking at mainstream news, rather than academic sources, this narrows the field of information considerably. Academic sources are generally considered much more credible than corporate news sources, especially if the news is about awards selected by discipline-wide organizations that encompass professionally trained experts in the field. In the fields of writing, language, and literature, the MLA is beyond credible, as an organization and a source. It has over 25,000 members in 100 countries across the world. Its awards are highly competitive and viewed as professionally valid. Wikipedia has often included information on community-based awards, such as the science fiction and fantasy community's Nebulas and Hugos, so why not awards by a professional organization whose membership includes basically all English teachers and English professors in the globe?

    Here is information on the scope of the MLA-- https://www.mla.org/About-Us/About-the-MLA

    I look forward to hearing from you, and thank you in advance for your help.

    Sincerely, SpecFicGurl (talk) 17:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC)'SpecFicGurl[reply]

    Request on 19:13:20, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Internetgal


    I’m looking for clarification on the comments you made on a Wikipedia page I submitted. My submission was rejected by you because of the references noted in the article and you said the author was not notable. The author has published 9 books, received a COVR Award, received an IPPY award, and had two reviews for books in Publisher's Weekly. She also has a #1 new release on Amazon.com.

    Here’s a link to my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tess_Whitehurst.

    Here are some additional links that I hope will provide more information on way this author is notable.

    The Magic of Flowers Oracle deck award nomination: http://internationaltarotfoundation.com/2015-carta-award-nominees/

    IPPY Award (see bronze in #59) http://www.independentpublisher.com/article.php?page=1653

    Publisher's Weekly Magical Fashionista review noted on BarnesAndNoble.com (the review on the PW site is for subscribers only) http://www.barnesandnoble.com/enwiki/w/magical-fashionista-tess-whitehurst/1114856282#productInfoTabs

    The Magic of Trees is #1 New Release on Amazon.com: https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Trees-Sacred-Metaphysical-Properties/dp/073874803X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484325930&sr=8-1&keywords=magic+of+trees

    Publisher’s Weekly review of The Magic of Trees: http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-7387-4803-0

    I modeled my page after two of her peers in this field. Here are links to their pages: Christopher Penczak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Penczak and Scott Cunningham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Cunningham. She’s also referenced in the following Wikipedia articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Champa, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsuzsanna_Budapest Internetgal (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 19:31:32, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Curacao Passion


    Hi SwisterTwister,

    Thanks for replying. Your answer, unfortunately, has not answered my question: What is the difference in notability between Chanelle de Lau and the ladies of the countries (for which an entry was approved) that appear under the following link (under the heading contestants)?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_2016

    Thanks in advance for your specific answer on this puzzling matter indeed.

    Best, Curacao Passion


    Curacao Passion (talk) 19:31, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    20:34:00, 13 January 2017 review of submission by The happygirlie


    What else do you suggest i add to make my draft accepted as i have painstakingly re-edited over and over again and strictly following the Wikipedia policies to the best of my knowledge

    The happygirlie (talk) 20:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    20:34:36, 13 January 2017 review of submission by The happygirlie


    What else do you suggest i add to make my draft accepted as i have painstakingly re-edited over and over again and strictly following the Wikipedia policies to the best of my knowledge

    The happygirlie (talk) 20:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 20:49:32, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Mbranch06


    Hi, this is in regards to the recent page I tried to create for LikeFolio, an investing app/service. I received notes about the companies notability. I'm not quite sure I understand why it is not considered notable? It's had press on various mainstream media (Yahoo Finance, Fox News, Forbes, it's data is used inside of the TD Ameritrade platform, one of the largest financial companies in the world. It's won awards from well recognized financial technology companies, including CNN Money, and it's data is being used in a Georgetown University's McDonough School of Busines study). I just want to make sure I understand what exactly is holding it back from being published. Thanks in advance for your guidance/help.

    Mbranch06 (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 21:22:50, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by OfficialRecurrence


    There aren't any major reviews because it has not been released yet. The release date of the album was just announced today so I added what I could to get the page started.

    OfficialRecurrence (talk) 21:22, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    22:59:52, 13 January 2017 review of submission by 24.84.20.114


    Kashoo is an accounting software company, much like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KashFlow and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeAgent. Both those software companies were able to create Wiki pages with questionable "reliable" sources/referrals. Furthermore, there is a page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software where Kashoo should be listed (and linked to appropriate Kashoo page) however it has been removed. This provides an unfair advantage to accounting software competitors.

    Any update on our page getting added? Again, Kashoo is Accounting Software, and should be represented on this document: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software as these are all direct competitors providing Accounting Software. Jan 16, 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7810:1B00:653C:8BE6:6442:C1BC (talk) 18:32, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 01:53:01, 14 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AugustF


    I added four references to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mark_Panick and I am still seeing "Submission declined." I have done ample research on the subject (including an in-person interview) so please advise me as to what I need to do to better my chances of a successful submission.≈≈≈≈

    AugustF (talk) 01:53, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:Jiří Walker Procházka ‎

    Dear SwisterTwister, I think I have a problem with the fact that the 3 cited works on Czech SF are published and recognized as reliable only here in Czech Republic. One of them was written by O. Neff, who is recognised in en-wikipedia. But this book is in Czech too. You see, JWP writes SF in Czech and most info on him is in Czech again. So people in the English SF world scarsely know of him. I wanted to get some short info in the English speaking version of Wikipedia to break this vicious circle. I created a stub and was gradually forced to expand it. Now I got to the dead end, if you have no advice for me in this, I promise to quit in a month or so. I reckon that the info on JWP will find his way through personal contacts in the end. Ondřej Neff, Josef Nesvadba, Vilma Kadlečková, Miroslav Žamboch, Jaroslav Velinský, Ludvík Souček they all "made it" on similar terms. Maybe the problem is some trivia in my approach and it can be cured. Looking forward to your reply... Erempari (talk) 16:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    19:45:28, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226


    Hello SwisterTwister, Could you please expand on your comment: "Comment: What this specifically needs is major book reviews because the current sources noticeably consist of only announcements, listings, blogs and mentions. SwisterTwister talk 22:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)"?

    There are two book reviews included in the article for Rowland Saifi; two interviews of Rowland Saifi by well-known, internationally-circulated newspapers; reviews of an exhibition that Rowland Saifi's work is included in, with specific reference to his work, which is a higher tier review.

    Also, could you please explain why the article for Emily Pettit was accepted in light of your comments?

    I can remove the "Work" section from the Rowland Saifi article if that helps. I can also add his profile from the Poets&Writers Directory, and note that he has been asked to sit on the judge's panel for Newfound Journal's prose prize, two years in a row. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks!98.245.81.226 (talk) 19:45, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    20:13:58, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226


    Hi SwisterTwister, Thank you for your response!

    Could you please let me know what would be the specific number of reviews you need? And, which publications you would consider major?

    Could you also please let me know why the following article was approved, as it contains reference to a single, 1-paragraph long book review, and a few interviews: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Pettit. Your response would allow me to understand the qualitative decisions you are making. If I compare the articles myself, I am unclear why the short review on the Huffington Post, largely a news aggregator, would be seen as a more reputable review than a focus one by a well-known artist (Mary Berger) in a well-known literary publication (Your Impossible Voice). Is the decision based on circulation numbers?

    RE: Comment: Interviews aren't the focused actual reviews we need, and even then, the current number of reviews would not be enough. SwisterTwister talk 19:55, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

    Comment: What this specifically needs is major book reviews because the current sources noticeably consist of only announcements, listings, blogs and mentions. SwisterTwister talk 22:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC) Thank you for your help!98.245.81.226 (talk) 20:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    23:20:30, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226


    Hi SwisterTwister,

    Thanks again for your response. I am happy to comply with the standards and am just trying to understand what they are. If the article for Emily Pettit was made prior to the changes, that makes sense. Thanks!98.245.81.226 (talk) 23:20, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    15:47:37, 15 January 2017 review of submission by Benlol98



    I've removed the notable section after reading WP:ORG . May I know what else I can do to improve the article? I still have a lot to learn so please do enlighten me.

    Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Factom

    You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Factom. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Template:Z48[reply]

    Silverlake Axis draft submission

    Hi. Actually I added links to Gartner and IDC, which are recognized organizations that have profiled the company and its products. I wouldn't consider those the company's own website.

    Mictan236 (talk) 02:27, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Gartner and IDC do independent reviews on many companies in several industries. All the company provides is raw data. This data is then analyzed against the company's competitors with no influence from the company itself. Gartner actually did a deep comparison of SIBS versus other core banking products. I don't know how to show it to you because the full documents require Gartner and IDC subscriptions to access. If this is still not notable enough then I don't think there's anything else I can do.

    Mictan236 (talk) 02:36, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Cambodian football AFC submissions

    I have a favour to ask. Over the past few months, you have reviewed a couple AFC submissions for articles related to football in Cambodia created by unregistered editors. (See Draft:2017 Cambodian League, Draft:Sun Vandeth, and Draft:Seut Baraing.) If you come across any more of these in the future, would please let me or a SPI clerk know before accepting them, especially if the corresponding article page has been deleted before? The creation of this sort of article by IP's in the draft namespace is fairly strong indicator of sockpuppetry from 089baby (talk · contribs). Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    05:10:36, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Abic1991


    I have included news articles from cyclingnews.com and cyclingtips.com, both of which are major sports news outlets. Are these sufficiently important outlets? If so, I can include more references from different articles on these sites

    05:34:00, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Alexhaddad91


    Andrew Rothschild has invented the genre bluestronica. There is no published music that falls in this genre of bluestronica. Andrew Rothschild's music does not fit the blues, or electronica genre. Hence he has created a new genre. No artist has claimed their music to be apart of this genre. He has elements of both in his music. The sources are legitimate. This is not a scientific matter, he is an artist and his artwork has received notable attention.

    Draft: The Deltahorse

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Deltahorse

    Hi SwisterTwister,

    thanks again for your help on improving this article.

    As requested in your first comment on Jan 9 ″″(There's still not enough major reviews from major publications, focus with only major news and reviews and no press releases, trivial passing mentions or interviews. SwisterTwister talk 18:18, 9 January 2017 (UTC))″″ My response was to include links to references with weight, published by credible media only. You then wrote on Jan 13 ″″(Would still benefit from all additional major independent news and reviews. SwisterTwister talk 20:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC))″″ What would you consider independent? Since we are talking about artists and music--I would like to think all published reviews on music reflect the personal opinion of the authors who write about it. As far as this goes I did my best to pick and reference articles with a more neutral point of view. After studying quite a few other articles about artists here on Wiki I must come to the conclusion that their references are not exactly independent. Please help me understand your last request. As always, thank you for your effort. It is appreciated. Christina Katzmann07:48, 16 January 2017 (UTC)



    This is an artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by CK KC (talk • contribs) 07:48, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    13:22:24, 16 January 2017 review of submission by SHBCARE


    Several new good citations, and more information was added to the draft by user SHBCARE; and I've made some tone and MOS changes. -- Jeandré, 2017-01-16t13:22z

    E.g. this Sydney Morning Herald article. -- Jeandré, 2017-01-16t13:36z

    Draft: Hitting Town

    Hi SwisterTwister, Thank you for your review of Draft: Hitting Town. Please could you expand on your comment "specifically needs major reviews"? I am very new to Wikipedia and so I am not sure how to contact you for expansion of this and am not sure if you have already left these details for me somewhere?

    Many thanks, Emma Emma Bosch (talk) 15:21, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft: Kalray

    Hi SwisterTwister,

    I see that you recently reviewed a "Kalray" draft.

    To be transparent, I would like to let you know that I am a current employee of Kalray. For years, our company and our products have been cited on Wikipedia, though there is no article in the name of the company. I am happy to see that one has now been created, but disappointed that it was refused.

    As we are referenced over a dozen times in various wikipedia articles, I believe it is in the best interest of all concerned to have more information available about our company. Do you have any concrete advice about how to go about improving this article? I noticed that the article did not have scientific references, and it did have PR references. If I added more scientific references (we have dozens of peer-reviewed scientific papers) and took out the PRs, would you be likely to OK the article ?

    Thanks! AndreaAndibusch (talk) 16:03, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    20:08:55, 16 January 2017 review of submission by 2601:681:4700:399C:3960:7026:53E9:AD9C


    I was researching this company for work and was surprised that they didn't have an article in wikipedia. I wanted to know who they were and what their basic business model was. I had to go to an external source to find this. I thought it would be useful to have this info in wikipedia. I don't work for them, I don't have a vested interest in their success or failure, I just found it annoying that this info wasn't available here, and wanted to fix that.

    draft SHARON PINCOTT - going to RESUBMIT

    Hello SwisterTwister, Hoped to have a final Live Chat to you, but you're not currently there. I feel confident now that I've done everything that you and Huon have asked me to, after numerous Live Chats to you both - and many, many edits and improvements. Am hoping that it will be okay this time. Thankyou for all of your input, help and encouragement. Arnie1000 (talk) 23:57, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft: Irene Kepl

    Hi SwisterTwister,

    thanks for reviewing my first article draft. I'm planning the Soundout festival at the moment and was adding Irene Kepl, because she is one of our main international guests and I wanted to add her to Wikipedia, so Australian listeners who don't know her, yet, would be able to read up on her. As far as I understand, receiving the Theodor Körner Price alone makes her significant enough to be on Wikipedia, and the new source I found for that is directly the page of the Austrian Ministry for Arts and Science. In the genre of improvised music she is basically a "star", leading to the recent publications with FouRecords and Another Timbre as well as the little older SlamRecords publication. Since in improvised music, recordings are not very common, those three publications with the most important labels in improvised music are basically cementing her in as a main player in her field. ;) So, I have added a lot of additional sources, and hope it's enough now for this article to be accepted. Thx for your work, VT

    ~~Vtsound~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vtsound (talk • contribs) 00:08, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft: Whiskey Bards

    Your comment on my draft said that I needed "major publications" as my sources. But the Wikipedia guidelines for musicians and ensembles do not say anything about "major" publications. The guidelines read: "This criterion includes published works in all forms," but nowhere does it say they have to be major published works.

    Two of my sources were album reviews from separate, independent websites, one devoted to folk art, the other to pirate-themed music. In my opinion, this meets the requirement of: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself."

    Please reconsider my draft without an insistence on "major" publications, as this is not one of the requirements. Cybotik (talk) 06:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The websites I used as sources, despite your dismissal, have been cited multiple times by multiple contributors to Wikipedia, including in two articles in which there were only two sources referenced, and in one of those Going Overboard (album), the only other source was no longer active. If one of my sources is acceptable as the single valid source for another Wikipedia article, then it should be acceptable as one of several sources in my own article.

    Follow the links to see the various Wikipedia pages using the same sources I did.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=Rambles.net&title=Special:Search&go=Go&searchToken=ab0y6hifrcw777d7gu7kdko05

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=Bilgemunky.com&searchToken=2mbt0vgj36gmzr9cn1tfe6wcg#/search — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybotik (talk • contribs) 08:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    This Wikipedia page, Going_Overboard_(album), has only two sources. One of them is invalid, leading to a defunct site, and the other is a source that I used. Why are the standards lower for this article than they are for mine? If six sources are too few, why are two sources acceptable? Cybotik (talk) 08:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    This music article, Rubber_Biscuit has only three sources, one of them YouTube, one of them a catalog, and the third, just a lyrics page. I could easily source some lyric pages, and an allmusic.com page on the subject of my article. Mtv.com has an artist page for the group, but it wasn't an informative article, so I didn't use it.

    This article about a band, Sparx_(US_band), has only two sources, plus a link to the band's website.

    This musical show, EFX_(show) has only two sources, yet is somehow acceptable.

    If six sources are insufficient, why are these other articles acceptable with fewer than that? Cybotik (talk) 09:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 11:01:09, 17 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by JewishMoldova


    Would you please help me to correct my article according to comments below:

    1. This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.
    2. This is only a business announcement advertising his services and then his own published and republished business announcements, none of it satisfies our policies since it only belongs at his own website; there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else.

    Thank you in advance.

    JewishMoldova (talk) 11:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    14:25:22, 17 January 2017 review of submission by Yasiryusuf39


    Hello, I have re- edited and added an additional reference to the article. I will love if you can help me review it again if it has met your standard. Best regards, yasiryusuf39

    17:42:21, 17 January 2017 review of submission by Travish212


    Thank you for your review of my draft. I have been through way too many drafts, re-writes, and deletions for this page. It has been shortened, condensed, and as many sources as are available have been cited. I have read all of the articles that have been linked. There are no other sources available on the internet, as it is a small company. There are no opinions reflected in the draft, only basic facts. I don't see how this can be changed any more. This latest draft is even a re-write from one of your moderators. Please advise.

    19:08:52, 17 January 2017 review of submission by KatieEmoto


    Hello! Can you help me understand what you mean by "Sources are simply focused ASA published and republished business announcements." regarding my article submission for Cos Bar? Thank you!KatieEmoto (talk) 19:08, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    21:03:10, 17 January 2017 review of submission by Btheory78



    Hello, Thank you for your review. However I am wondering how Judy Schwartz does fit the following criteria of Politician:

    Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature. This also applies to persons who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them.

    Also, in terms of notability, Nassau County has 1.36 million residents making it more populous than 10 U.S states. So the 2nd highest ranking government official / office holder is a prominent and influential position. In fact, Wikipedia already has an article on the current serving Chief Deputy County Executive of Nassau County: Rob Walker (New York Politician), so why would a former one be considered differently? Wikipedia even has individual articles on former members of the Nassau County Legislature (Ex: Diane Yatauro, Judith Jacobs, etc.) - positions not considered as notable as the Chief Deputy County Executive. Since Judy Schwartz served from 1999 - 2001, web archives from local papers such as the Long Island Press and Newsday are more difficult to track down since those publications still existed in print at the turn of this century. However, New York Times as a national publication did have online readership and maintained an active web archive - which is why I included it for reference to Judy Schwartz (not to mention the Nassau Coliseum controversy involved a lot of New York power players, Judy Schwartz being one of them - hence the article's title "Power Play over Nassau Coliseum."). Therefore, I am kindly requesting you reconsider this article.

    Thank you for your time and all your important contributions to Wikipedia. Btheory78 (talk) 21:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    21:27:43, 17 January 2017 review of submission by 86.142.251.238


    Appreciate the comment regarding notability, however surely an amateur gym which produces a national finalist every five years; has a host of professional boxers at its platform and trained a world heavyweight contender is defined with some element of notability? References, both past and present, throughout the history of this establishment highlight its significance?

    I'd very much appreciate your feedback as to how I can make this article more robust.

    Request on 22:10:04, 17 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Marcdean69



    Marcdean69 (talk) 22:10, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for reviewing, but none of these is a business announcement. They are public reviews from reputed photographers and bloggers and forums. The social media profiles are the biggest sites on the Internet and show our following and time in the industry. We have the biggest facebook following. We are the #1 company in the industry and have been in it from the beginning of a young industry, over 5 years. And a competitor that's been in business for 18 months has their own wikipedia page; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeklens.com

    This doesn't seem too legitimate to me and I'm wondering how you can make such quick and incorrect decisions. The system seems to be flawed here at Wikipedia.

    Request on 22:50:06, 17 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Amirparam


    Hello , Thank you for reviewing my article. I have added Tahere Falahati's videos ( produced by CBC) and aired by reliable TV networks such as BBC. Also there are interviews with her by Voice of America TV and DW. I am not sure what else is needed. Can you please help me?

    Thank you, (Amirparam (talk) 22:50, 17 January 2017 (UTC))[reply]

    Amirparam (talk) 22:50, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 01:30:41, 18 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Johnmadera


    Hello. I've used as references notable publications, like American Book Review, The Brooklyn Rail, The Nervous Breakdown, etc. Each of them are respected, nationally respected publications. Please advise. Thanks. Johnmadera (talk) 01:30, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Johnmadera (talk) 01:30, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    TravelKhana banned editor?

    If I understood you correctly, you said that one of the !voters in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TravelKhana has since been banned. But I can't figure out who you are referring to. Maybe my eyes are just tired... Brianhe (talk) 05:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Brianhe Yes, it was Safehaven, a CU-confirmed sockmaster of PR articles. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 05:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I see now. Odd that the userpage hasn't been tagged. Calling Smartse as well: Did you read Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Maslowsneeds/Archive? Very troubling; this is a new kind of sophistication I haven't seen before. They played the "good hand" role well; I see this editor bringing valid information to other SPIs which is highly unusual to say the least for an account being played as a sock itself. - Brianhe (talk) 06:05, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft: Whiskey Bards

    Please re-evaluate my draft according to the actual guidelines, which do not require "major" publications, and according to the same standards by which the Wikipedia pages below were accepted. All of them have fewer sources than I do, and some of them use the same sources. You cannot claim I have too few sources when the articles below do not have as many. And you cannot claim that my sources are inadequate as some of them are shared with the articles below. I even added three new sources. I now have eight more sources than the first article on the list below, and the one valid source on that page is also one of my sources. If that article was acceptable, then my article should be acceptable if the same standard is used.

    This Wikipedia page, Going_Overboard_(album), has only two sources, one of them invalid, the other is also one of my sources.

    This music article, Rubber_Biscuit has only three sources, one of them You Tube.

    This article about a band, Sparx_(US_band), has only two sources, plus a link to the band's website.

    This musical show, EFX_(show) has only two sources. Cybotik (talk) 09:17, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Copyvio checks for drafts

    I've seen a number of pages in the last couple of days that were reviewed by you at AFC and were subsequently deleted as a copyright violation (or severely trimmed and revdel'd). A draft should always be checked for CVs before being reviewed. Additionally, when tagging a page as G12, the creator of the page should be notified so that at the very least they're informed of the copyright rules. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 15:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission for review


    Dear SwisterTwister,

    I honestly don't know why my page is being considered for deletion. I've been benchmarking pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinel_Capital_Partners and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_North_Venture_Partners, and I don't see the difference in quality of references between them and us. I don't want to point other pages, but to me it seems like there's a double standard being applied where we're being put in a disadvantage. You said that we use flat out PR material, but please have a look at my references again. My first reference is not PR material but introduces our company in the context of growing healthcare market in Chicago. Second source is from highbeam and does not passingly mention our company but showcases our company in the context of private equity. Considering that companies like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Growth_Partners use flat out PR material, I don't know why we're being considered for deletion. Could you at least give me a direct explanation of why you give a pass for some companies over others? My other references are also not direct advertisements but comments from news sources. Please have a look. Thank you

    Regarding some references I included, you really have to read a few sentences of the article to realize that it is really about us. It might at first glance appear to be a passing mention, but that is not the case. Pages like Highbeam require subscription to get a full view of the article, so maybe that is why you think it's a passing mention? Also, if you look at the business magazine I referenced, it describes our company in a few paragraphs, not just as a passing mention. I invite your patience and kindly ask you to review our references once more. Thank you. Mjiangscp (talk) 17:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC) "Mjiangscp (talk) 17:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC)"[reply]

    Kanchana V Subbarathnam - draft, help needed

    Hi David, Thank you for reviewing my draft on Kanchana V Subbarathnam. The person on who I wrote the page, does not have references in news websites. He died in 2005 and lived in India. Is it acceptable to add reference material available in another website? I do have some old letters, news paper clippings and photos which prove the fact that this person was a true achiever. But I don't see a way to upload them as proof. I honestly feel that we need to include this person on wikipedia for his achievements, please help.

    Thank you, Sumanasa Sumanasa (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    17:48:10, 18 January 2017 review of submission by Olusola David, Ayibiowu



    Please! can I go to National Gallery of Art, Lagos, at National Theater Iganmu, Lagos to sources reliable reference of painting picture I donated to them years ago or where can I look for sources?Olusola David, Ayibiowu (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    19:27:33, 18 January 2017 review of submission by 84.222.43.99



    Dear SwisterTwister, after your suggestions on 28th december 2017 about Enzo Minarelli draft, I have been working about and I have submitted a new draft following what you  wrote, I think now it works, I will be very happy to know your opinion, with my best

    Seeking feedback on new article

    Hello, I recently posted a new article on my employer’s company, Spredfast. I now see that there was a previous article, deleted in May in a discussion you took part in. I understand that I have a COI. However, I believe with this new version I have closely followed Wikipedia’s editing guidelines and that the article is written in a neutral tone and is supported with credible references. If you're able to take a look, I would appreciate feedback. Bthoma (talk) 21:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    22:12:40, 18 January 2017 review of submission by 124.157.106.97



    Hello SwisterTwister, I understand your point of view and the publishing rules on Wikipedia. Really, I do! The reason I decided to send the article in Wikipedia (even it doesn't respect the rules) is because Ezi Car Rental is become the first 100% Kiwi own rental company in New Zealand. New Zealand is a small country. References are not like in Europe (where I come from) or another big country in the World. With the current rules of publication only the big companies can be on Wikipedia. Is it really the most relevant point of view for an online encyclopedia? I could be wrong but I don't think so. It is not an argumentation for publishing the article about Ezi Car Rental. Your decision respect the rules. It is just my point of view about this. Now, I will wait until someone else decide that Ezi Car Rental is enough relevant to be on Wikipedia. Thank you for your time and for your participation to Wikipedia. Jeremy

    22:33:57, 18 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy


    The band "The Hot Place" fits your guideline as, "an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." The founding member and guitarist of The Hot Place, Jeff Calder, is a notable musician who is also currently active in the band "The Swimming Pool Q's". The Swimming Pool Q's are a national band, and have been recognized in Rolling Stone magazine, their most recent album "1984-1986:The A&M Years" was a Rolling Stone "Reissue of the Year", picked by David Fricke, on page 32 of the December 19-Jan 2 2014 print magazine. The Swimming Pool Q's have had five national/international album releases, on the major labels A&M, Capitol, and Bar None. The singer and other founding member of The Hot Place, Lisa King has has been a member of notable band The Glenn Phillips band, who have released albums on Virgin and Sony Records. King also played keyboards with The Swimming Pool Q's from 2003-2006. The Hot Place features guest guitarist Richard Lloyd of the band "Television", another member of a prominent 1970's band, with historical releases on Elektra records. The Hot Place has been featured in print, in significant North American publications "Georgia Music Magazine", "Stomp and Stammer", and "Creative Loafing."

    23:02:39, 18 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy


    The Hot Place is directly connected to two major musical artists. One of its founding members is Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's, and guest artist Richard Lloyd of Television, who already have Wikipedia Pages. Could you please clarify how to substantiate that more? I did connect The Hot Place to The Swimming Pool Q's via internal Wikipedia linking. The sources cited, if read in detail, are more than just announcements, interviews, and mentions. They directly discuss how Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's and Richard Lloyd of Television are connected to and/or are members of the Atlanta band The Hot Place. Many of the album reviews and mentions of the band are in analog print media, though I have found several digital places where the band's members are verified and substantiated. Thank you for your help!

    This article in particular substantiates The Hot Place's history and verifies the notable musicians who are members. http://www.clatl.com/music/article/13080910/new-wavers-instudio-chemistry-ignites-the-hot-place. I'm not sure how this is not a substantial source. If you could clarify, I would so appreciate it! Thank you!

    Wikidata help

    Hi,

    I think you were the one helping me on the webchat - thanks for the link to the wikidata chat. I thought it would open up a new window, but I was routed directly to it and didn't have a chance to say thanks. So, thanks for your help.—CaroleHenson (talk) 00:53, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    00:57:41, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy


    This following source, was both online and in print. It's the official music magazine for the State of Georgia, "Georgia Music Magazine". You will see the "Georgia on my Mind" peach logo on the upper right hand part of the page. I realize that it's not the most attractive looking source, but it is credible. The Hot Place was featured in a printed edition of Georgia Music Magazine on November 3rd, 2014 and this is how the printed article appeared online: http://georgiamusic.org/members-of-television-pool-qs-converge-in-the-hot-place/. The band is relatively new, with one album and three EP's, but I believe it's a historic and important project, because of the notability of the musicians involved. Especially because the founding member, Jeff Calder, already has a Wikipedia page for his other very well known national band, "The Swimming Pool Q's" as does contributing guitarist, Richard Lloyd of Television. Though this source is an announcement, it is more than that. It's also a verification of the project, by a State-run entertainment publication. It's hard to find any more sources for The Hot Place, that are not based in music publications, since they are a musical project. For instance, there is no information on random news sites like The New York Times, or sources that are on a different topic that music. Please advise, as I would really love this to be my first article for Wikipedia. It's a notable band that is not already in Wikipedia, and that is exciting to me, for a first article. I am interested in publishing more articles on other diverse topics as well. I appreciate all of your help, and I'm willing to do whatever I need to make this a good first article.
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    Cabrianorange (talk) 01:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    01:31:05, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Jadis White


    Hi SisterTwister! Thanks for taking the time to have a look at the changes to the article... Just a quick question for clarification (so that I can get the next edit right): Is the problem that there are not enough external references? A bit confused, as the first reviewer indicated that the article was copied, so I removed all direct references to this (even though they were quoted/cited), but not that there weren't enough notable articles... Please let me know what I need to do to improve the article and have it accepted. Thanks again!

    02:55:39, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Frank Cianciullo



    Hi, I would respectfully appreciate a review. Melissa Del Pinto has been recognized as a Canadian artist by The National Gallery of Canada and her name was added to the “Government of Canada, Canadian Heritage Database of Canadian Artists”. I have added the link. In addition, to address the points used to refuse her submission, her paintings are in the collections of notable Canadian collectors. I added the name of Irwin and Claude Lande. Mr. Lande is a noted real-estate developer living in Westmount (Montreal).

    Re:Carlos Medina

    Hello SwisterTwister, I corrected the edition. Sorry for the delay, I have already corrected the edition, I wait for you for the next step. MaoGo (talk) 13:57, 9 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaoGo (talk • contribs)

    Request on 14:35:52, 19 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by OanaST


    Hello!

    Before this article, I wrote another one, based in Wikipedia's best practice and other helpful articles. Also, I took as examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_%26_Young; Then I started to search for other types of companies and I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norauto and think it's not an unique case. Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decathlon_Group in which there are references from their own website ( and I understand that is not acceptable ).

    So, do you understand my frustration ? Thank you in advance for your reply!

    OanaST (talk) 14:35, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Pamela Ryder article

    Hello.

    I've added an additional reference, this time from The Huffington Post.

    Irving Malin is a legendary critic, who's listed on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Malin

    I also included D’Aoust’s review from the BROOKLYN RAIL (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brooklyn_Rail), and Robert Glick's review in AMERICAN BOOK REVIEW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Book_Review). These are all reputable sources, as demonstrated that they've been vetted as reputable by Wikipedia itself.

    Please advise.

    Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnmadera (talk • contribs) 16:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Regarding Faia Younan's wiki

    Hi Dear,

    I have took your advise from the help section and added more sources to my draft.

    in your comment you mentioned that: "Listed sources are simply announcements and mentions"

    However, the sources are not mentioning nor announcing. They are all telling her story.

    Please re-check the sources, and kindly advise on what is missing in those sources, I would like to know how to test the source as you do, before re-trying to publish :)

    Thank you.

    TestCandidate 19:46, 19 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TestCandidate (talk • contribs)

    19:51:49, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy


    I have worked on finding more sources for my citations. The first three reference citations, are from National, credible print and digital magazines, the state run publication "Georgia Music Magazine", and a newspaper which is owned by the Atlanta Journal and Constitution, "Creative Loafing." The References directly explain how The Hot Place contains two notable international musicians in its lineup, Jeff Calder of “The Swimming Pool Q's” and Richard Lloyd of “Television.” Especially notable is source #2, Georgia Music Magazine. This is a state-run print and digital publication. Source 1 and 3 are not merely announcements, they are also detailed articles which explain The Hot Place's debut, and the notable musicians that are involved in the historic project. I also added another source that I found this morning, “Arts Talk” on Blog Talk Radio, Episode #104 Lisa King. I have also looked at other Atlanta bands Wikipedia pages. Some of these are groups which are far less notable than The Hot Place, with no notable musicians involved, and cite less reliable sources. So, I'm curious as to why those articles were approved, and this one is being rejected. Please advise! My sources all verify the notable musicians involved in The Hot Place.

    Added another cited source, from "The Recoup" magazine, by Joseph Kyle, in which Jeff Calder directly speaks about being a member and producer of The Hot Place band, with musician Lisa King. https://therecoup.com/2014/04/21/swimming-pool-qs-working-at-the-nut-factory/. The article quotes Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's, "We have about 2/3 of a new album mixed, and a few basic tracks standing by in the queue, waiting to be finished. I’ve co-produced them with Tim Delaney, a talented Atlanta musician and engineer we’ve worked with as far back as Royal Academy. It certainly helps that I’m friends with a number of great recording engineers, many of whom I was fortunate to be associated with at Atlanta’s legendary Southern Tracks studio, which I helped to manage for many years and where I was on the periphery of what seems like a hundred major rock albums produced by Brendan O’Brien.I like doing new things, having recently produced and played on an album by The Hot Place, Lisa King’s band based in Atlanta. It’s a pretty cool record that has a song called “Saturn Moved” on which Richard Lloyd of Television unleashes a wild solo."

    Review of submission by Pipkin2.0 - Draft:Chartered Institution for Further Education

    Would you be kind enough to revisit? Thanks Pipkin2.0 (talk) 21:31, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    23:10:16, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Djgriffin7



    Hello: Irene W. Leigh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Irene_Leigh) does seem to fit criteria number 5 for Wikipedia:Notability (academics). Her page notes she was awarded the "Distinguished Faculty Award". Also, although she has not created a Google Scholar profile, searching her name shows her work is heavily cited (see https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Irene+W.+Leigh&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=1%2C1&oq=Irene) Leigh has written many books and her appointment on the State of Maryland Board of Examiners of Psychologists is an impressive feat. Djgriffin7 (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 23:33:02, 19 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by TheSandDoctor


    @SwisterTwister: I saw your message regarding how the references are "not the needed substance". What would you consider needed substance? I thought that the BBC articles as well as Guinness Book of World Records would be of sufficient weight reference wise (or are they and it is the other ones mainly?). If you would like to assist with the article, your help would be much appreciated.

    TheSandDoctor (talk) 23:33, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Mark E. Curry

    Hi David. Unfortunately the new version of this page is sufficiently different to the one deleted at AFD (more content, more (and different) sources) that I can't really justify deleting it under G4. If you want to throw it up at AFD again, you'll hear no objection from me, however. All the best, Yunshui 雲水 13:35, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The same goes for Marta DuBois. Primefac (talk) 16:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:Tractors India Pvt Ltd

    Joydip.B (talk) 17:05, 20 January 2017 (UTC) Hi SwisterTwister, thanks for your review my article Tractors India Pvt Ltd, i made certain changes to improve the notability issue, its a 20+ years old company & very popular in indian heavy equipment sector, but those are the only online references i found, if still something missing please suggest how to improve.[reply]

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    Urban developers

    Thank you for proposing Urban developers for deletion. The PROD was contested, and I have started a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Urban developers. — Sam Sailor 19:16, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 22:18:26, 20 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Copeboox


    I have had a reviewer SwisterTwister reject my draft page "Draw SVG", on the grounds that the article needs substantial references independent of the source.

    This is nonsense - there are similar published articles about scalable vector graphics that do not have "substantial" referencing. Look at:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dia_(software)#References

    This is an open source software tool and it needs promotion in order to gain more "substantial references". The article meets Wikipedia's requirements.

    I ask for a reconsideration, to publish the page, because it meets Wikipedia's requirements.

    Thanks, Copeboox (talk) 22:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Copeboox (talk) 22:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Please use more care in tagging sandbox for speedy deletion

    You left a speedy deletion tag on a new user's sandbox (a student of mine) for content that she created all of thirty minutes before your tag. I think that is way too aggressive. Perhaps she mistakenly submitted it for review thinking she might be able to get feedback.

    I have removed the speedy delete tag and will continue to work with her this semester to create a good article. -Reagle (talk) 22:47, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    {{tps}} @Reagle: I tagged it as copyvio. It's all (or at least almost all) cut'n'paste from various websites. That is a complete non-starter by WP policy. We can't host that sort of thing even for a few minutes, and using it as a draft or basis to "tweak a wording here and there" still leaves it all tainted as a derivative work. DMacks (talk) 22:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draw SVG draft page

    SwisterTwister, I have added as much as I can to this draft page, but this "throwback" of a legitimate article is unproductive. You incorrectly claim that it is a "clear business listing". It is not a business, and there is no commercial gain anywhere - it is software, free to use and open source (like other similar Wikipedia pages - Inkscape, Dia(software), SVG-edit), and I don't know how you can come to that conclusion from reading the article. It is free software designed to help software developers and designers. You previously claimed that there were no "substantial" improvements to a redraft. Would you like to help me out please by specifying exactly what you mean by "needs substantial references"? How many references do you think it would take to publish? Why? Is your decision based on Wikipedia guidelines? I'm trying to understand your rationale. Given my explanation, do you now agree that this is not a business promotion? There are other published pages covering similar software with just three references - yes, published. I look forward to the next re-review (again). Copeboox (talk) 07:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    00:10:17, 22 January 2017 review of submission by Kent Westlund



    Could you highlight for me the specific sentences that read like advertising. I'm willing to fix them but am struggling to identify them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:LuLaRoe

    Kent Westlund (talk) 00:10, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I have deleted the sections you objected to. Kent Westlund (talk) 00:42, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you let me know which of the 15 sources I've included are inappropriate. I can fix the ones you don't like.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:LuLaRoe Kent Westlund (talk) 00:54, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    02:12:43, 22 January 2017 review of submission by 63.92.245.105



    we are requesting a review because the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jonathan_Aldridge page has great sources and the subject is notable

    Benny Castillo managed the subject and his page has been approved.

    Aldridge is just as notable as Castillo and should be approved

    Request on 11:19:03, 22 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by 202.168.62.236


    Hello, thank you for reviewing the submission so promptly. I am confused as to why this page has not been approved though.

    Here in Australia, The Sydney Morning Herald is one of the largest print newspapers in the country. Cinema Australia and FilmInk are two of the most prominent entertainment media sources we have. These sources are completely independent of the subject and their reliability cannot be questioned.

    As for some of the other citations, I have included these in an effort to reference all materials in the article, which I have also kept to a minimum for the time being in order to make sure all presented materials are referenced. I understand that using the website of a film the subject has worked on may not seem independent, even if it is, however these can be taken out if necessary. As for Imdb, this is a third-party controlled webpage and whilst the references come from a page based on the subject, all content is strictly monitored by the website and is not controlled by the subject. Imdb's webpage has a portion for additional user-information, however these are separated from the official listings and always noted as such.

    Writing this page on behalf of the subject, I have used many other current Wikipedia pages as a reference point, some of which have far less references and fewer acting credits than this subject. There are many more publications I can reference to get this page approved, however I didn't deem it necessary to include so many as the information overlaps.

    Can you please let me know what it is that has drawn you to conclude that this subject is not notable enough to approve the article? I am happy to take out any references that you highlight as violations to your guidelines, however, within the 16 current references present in the draft article, there is absolutely significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Without question.

    Thank you again for your time and consideration.

    202.168.62.236 (talk) 11:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    You say above that you have been "[w]riting this page on behalf of the subject". Please read and digest Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. -- Hoary (talk) 13:34, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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