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22:55:02, 8 January 2017 review of submission by 14aaa
Is this getting better?
Rishi Raj Singh Page
this is regarding Rishi Raj Singh Page. I saw your comment . Could you please wait at least a week before you propose for delete. I am fetching more details of him and its a article more people search for. You might not know him better . Appreciate your patience.
03:15:19, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Mcintouch
Hi There! Thanks for reviewing my recent contribution. I was wondering as, you mentioned my submitted references are not "enough to satisfy standards as they are still too announcement-like". I'm just trying to understand what exactly do I need to submit. This is a retail chain with over 21 locations. Similar companies like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Colombe_Coffee_Roasters and [[1]] are not different when compared to what I've also submitted.
I'd appreciate any help you could offer.
Thank you
13:58:52, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Vgaidash
Dear Sir/Madam, I have struggled to rewrite the initial deleted article and to make it look like an encyclopedia entry avoidng comparisons and self-promotion epithets. Where possible I have added the links to sources, some of them are in Russian/Ukrainian. Yes source number one is an announcemens. I should be most grateful if you could advise me what is wrong with it, since other entries such as this one featured today - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki_Koechlin also has announcements in it sources. Source number two to my draft is not an announcement.
May I assure you that the article cannot and is not intended as advertisement since Ukrgassydobuvayynya sells all its gas to its mother company Naftogaz - that is Ukrgasvydobuvannya has the only wholesale client! So the text does not target any clients!:)
I am writing the article about the major gas extraction company in Ukraine and as a writer I think the fact that it was rated by an independent rating agency an number one taxpair by volume of taxes paid to the country's budget. I have added the necessary link №2 in the references.
Maybe you could kindly inform me which parts of the article look in your view as advertisement? I really need your feedback and I do not have any intention of cheating the Wikipedia. I just want to create an information oriented article. Regards, Volodymyr Gaidash
Regards,
Volodymyr Gaidash
Submission Rejection - Gordon Kipping
Hi David, You recently reviewed my article on architect Gordon Kipping and did not approve it for publication. Your reason was because it was "not satisfying our standards and policies and this still isn't far from it because it simply mirrors what would be found in his own websites and listings, something that articles are not used for here; the awards are still minor and there's never any automatic inherited notability from clients, because that would still be advertising; basically this suggests it's simply too soon in his career." This simply isn't true. He is an established and recognized person in the architecture community and has produced works that are very notable. I referenced many sources that did not come from his own website and listings, that I found independently from his own sites. He has been published numerous times and worked on many significant projects. Also there are many articles on Wikipedia about architects that are much less notable than he is. I can point them out for you if you'd like. Please let me know how I can get this article published because I think it is important information to anyone studying, practicing, or interested in Architecture. Thank you. Simme207
New Entry - Papadimitriou
I saw your recent comment on my talk page stating that the subject - Odysseas Papadimitriou - is "Only best known for the company and there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else regardless and none of this satisfies our policies." If being best known for a company disqualifies an entrepreneur from having his/her own page, then how do these pages exist: Tim Chen, Kenneth Lin (entrepreneur), Candice Galek and Elizabeth Holmes? I really don't see anything that distinguishes them from the subject of my draft.
Surfjk (talk) 23:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback so far, but it seems to me that inherited notability is a moot point here. Wikipedia’s basic-notability guidelines state that: "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject."
If you simply Google "Odysseas Papadimitriou," you'll see nearly 1,000 news results. For example, Time recently included him in its list of important American voices: http://time.com/collection/american-voices/. That seems like significant coverage to me. He even has a number of patents in his own name, too: https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=pts&source=hp&q=odysseas+papadimitriou&oq=odysseas+pap&gs_l=hp.3.0.0l3j0i10k1j0j0i22i30k1l5.1614.3435.0.4755.13.11.0.2.2.0.145.1024.8j3.11.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..0.12.936.0..35i39k1j0i131k1j0i20k1.JVdjo9YmZ2I.
Furthermore, Wikipedia’s notability guidelines conclude that: “People who meet the basic criteria may be considered notable without meeting the additional criteria.” And that leads me to believe Mr. Papadimitriou’s obvious basic notability warrants his own entry.
Surfjk (talk) 03:00, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I really don't see how "inherited notability" fits here. Wikipedia's guidelines state that, "An organization may be notable, but individual members (or groups of members) do not "inherit" notability due to their membership. A corporation may be notable, but its subsidiaries do not "inherit" notability from being owned by the corporation." Mr. Papadimitriou is neither a member nor a subsidiary of his company; he is the founder and CEO. How can you inherit notability from something that you predated and, in fact, created? For example, does Bill Harley fail to qualify simply because most people associate "Harley" with the motorcycle brand? Both have Wikipedia entries. Does Eduardo Saverin not qualify because he's only notable for Facebook? Both have Wikipedia entries. And is Charlie Munger undeserving of an entry because he's known for his association with Warren Buffet? Both have Wikipedia entries.
The bottom line is that Mr. Papadimitriou is notable in his own right, as evidenced by his extensive media coverage and status as a recognized expert on personal finance. If every successful entrepreneur was considered notable only because of the business he created, and every inventor was merely an extension of his invention, there would be far fewer entries on Wikipedia and we would know a lot less about the important people influencing various aspects of our daily lives.
If we can't agree on this fundamental point, I think we'll need to get a second opinion from another reviewer.
Surfjk (talk) 19:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to make sure you saw my last message. Please let me know. Thanks!
Surfjk (talk) 03:38, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Armend Rexhepagiqi
Hello SwisterTwister. I did as you said , I added some major independent news on the page that I created for Albanian Kosovar singer Draft:Armend Rexhepagiqi. Thank you for helping me.
Submission declined for Draft:Grace VanderWaal
I saw your decline of the submission for Draft:Grace VanderWaal with a summary stating that "Submission is about a person not yet shown to meet notability guidelines". It does appear that this individual already has an article at Grace VanderWaal. Am I missing something? Alansohn (talk) 16:52, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)== Submission declined for Draft: Violeta Autumn == Thanks for reviewing the Violeta Autumn page. I saw your decline of the submission for it Draft:Violeta Autumn I am continuing to edit and add more information and sources showing her notability as an architect and planner at a time when women were not accepted as architects . Of particular note is her work on rebuilding one town after World War II. She also has a lot of hidden work that she did for other architects. At what point should I resubmit? She was a notable person but a lot of her work is in print form. User:Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 10;05, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I have done significant work to this page adding some of her notable works with reference, her notability was not just as an architect but also in government and planning developing the City of Sausalito. Would you please review again and reconsider? I have other people scanning drawings of the buildings she has done. If you accepted this page then they could add information directly. Keep in mind that this was at a time when women did not typically take credit for their work. Thank you! Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)(Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC))
Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners
Hi, first of all, I would like to thank you for reviewing our company's web page.
I am requesting a re-review because I believe that I have made appropriate adjustments to errors.
I deleted all PR related news and used information from news sources such as bloomberg or WSJ that conducted independent reviews on our company.
Please let me know if you find any problems. You can shoot me an email to scho@shorecp.com
Thanks
Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners
Hi SwisterTwister, thank you so much for your input, and especially for your fast reply. I removed all business announcements and changed my sources to news that were written by journalists as lead authors. Could you be kind enough to look over it again and provide feedback? I really appreciate your help.
Thanks
Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners
Hi SwisterTwister, thank you for your feedback once again. Sorry for disturbing you multiple times, but we're really eager to launch our page.
I think I understand the logic of your argument, but I am not a 100% clear. As a result, I simply removed all references that pointed to articles containing information regarding our company's financials, funding, etc. However, this left us with no choice but to get rid of references altogether, so I am wondering if we can launch the page as it is without any references. Since our company is relatively young, we don't have much coverage from major news publications, and it is really hard finding independent articles that don't introduce us in numbers. After all, we are known in Chicago for starting out small with personal investments from our founders and raising $112.5 from $10 million of initial investments. What can I do if I have trouble finding independent articles? Please let me know, your help much appreciated!
Setting up an archive bot?
Hey ST! Hope you are doing well. As this talk page is quite long, I was wondering if you would like to set up an archive bot? I can do it for you if you want! --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:47, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- You're welcome to, yes, I've taken some of it bit by bit, but any help is welcome. SwisterTwister talk 04:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you I will set one up right now (and set it to 30 days for the moment). That way, most of the recent threads will be there, but the older ones can be easily archived. (I like the bot archiving a lot!) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- OK done! As the bot runs once in 24 hours, I guess it will be a few hours until the first archiving happens. But after that, it works quite well! No need to manually archive anymore. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:59, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- You're welcome to, yes, I've taken some of it bit by bit, but any help is welcome. SwisterTwister talk 04:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 13:45:08, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Ajurisic
Hi SwisterTwister!
As for the notability of his contributions and the importance of “his field”, please consider the following facts. Cryptography plays an indispensable role in the digital world for data protection and, without it, modern data communications and storage systems and online services would be unimaginable.
In particular, RC4 has been the most widely used cipher on the Internet and A5/1 has been the mostly used cipher in mobile communications. Jovan Golic was the first to cryptanalyze these two ciphers at Eurocrypt ’97.
He was also among the first to cryptanalyze Bluetooth cipher widely used for short-range communications, at Eurocrypt 2002. He also found a weakness of the Japanese encryption standard MUGI, which together with a follow-up work caused it to be recently withdrawn. His results on nonlinear filter generators at FSE ‘96 had a deep impact on proprietary encryption systems. (And so on. ) Existing Wikipedia entries and citations clearly support these facts. In the nineties, he published in prestigious publications many influential papers significantly promoting the area of stream ciphers, which had been previously constrained mainly to proprietary and secret encryption used in the military and other similar systems.
Ajurisic (talk) 13:45, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
ku'ualoha ho'omanawanui entry
Dear SisterTwister,
Thank you for reviewing my entry. I'm interested in improving it for notability, but had a comment and a question.
It may not be obvious, but the Hawaiian Airlines Magazine is one of the major sources of journalistic reports, in terms of feature articles. In the islands, we have one major newspaper, so journalists often end up having to go to touristic venues for their more in-depth reporting. Along with Honolulu Magazine, Hawaiian Airlines Magazine is one of a handful of established venues for cultural and social reporting of major artistic, business, and literary figures. Are you not considering the specific landscapes of regional news, to evaluate reliability? Are you only looking at newspapers in major cities?
Here are the journalistic and other awards won by this magazine for reporting-- http://www.hanahou.com/pages/about.asp?PageID=2
Also, why doesn't news of an award given by the Modern Language Association--which is THE main professional organization of the English discipline--qualify as notable? If you are only looking at mainstream news, rather than academic sources, this narrows the field of information considerably. Academic sources are generally considered much more credible than corporate news sources, especially if the news is about awards selected by discipline-wide organizations that encompass professionally trained experts in the field. In the fields of writing, language, and literature, the MLA is beyond credible, as an organization and a source. It has over 25,000 members in 100 countries across the world. Its awards are highly competitive and viewed as professionally valid. Wikipedia has often included information on community-based awards, such as the science fiction and fantasy community's Nebulas and Hugos, so why not awards by a professional organization whose membership includes basically all English teachers and English professors in the globe?
Here is information on the scope of the MLA-- https://www.mla.org/About-Us/About-the-MLA
I look forward to hearing from you, and thank you in advance for your help.
Sincerely, SpecFicGurl (talk) 17:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC)'SpecFicGurl
Request on 19:13:20, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Internetgal
- Internetgal (talk · contribs)
I’m looking for clarification on the comments you made on a Wikipedia page I submitted. My submission was rejected by you because of the references noted in the article and you said the author was not notable. The author has published 9 books, received a COVR Award, received an IPPY award, and had two reviews for books in Publisher's Weekly. She also has a #1 new release on Amazon.com.
Here’s a link to my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tess_Whitehurst.
Here are some additional links that I hope will provide more information on way this author is notable.
The Magic of Flowers Oracle deck award nomination: http://internationaltarotfoundation.com/2015-carta-award-nominees/
IPPY Award (see bronze in #59) http://www.independentpublisher.com/article.php?page=1653
Publisher's Weekly Magical Fashionista review noted on BarnesAndNoble.com (the review on the PW site is for subscribers only) http://www.barnesandnoble.com/enwiki/w/magical-fashionista-tess-whitehurst/1114856282#productInfoTabs
The Magic of Trees is #1 New Release on Amazon.com: https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Trees-Sacred-Metaphysical-Properties/dp/073874803X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484325930&sr=8-1&keywords=magic+of+trees
Publisher’s Weekly review of The Magic of Trees: http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-7387-4803-0
I modeled my page after two of her peers in this field. Here are links to their pages: Christopher Penczak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Penczak and Scott Cunningham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Cunningham. She’s also referenced in the following Wikipedia articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Champa, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsuzsanna_Budapest Internetgal (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 19:31:32, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Curacao Passion
Hi SwisterTwister,
Thanks for replying. Your answer, unfortunately, has not answered my question: What is the difference in notability between Chanelle de Lau and the ladies of the countries (for which an entry was approved) that appear under the following link (under the heading contestants)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_2016
Thanks in advance for your specific answer on this puzzling matter indeed.
Best, Curacao Passion
Curacao Passion (talk) 19:31, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
20:34:00, 13 January 2017 review of submission by The happygirlie
What else do you suggest i add to make my draft accepted as i have painstakingly re-edited over and over again and strictly following the Wikipedia policies to the best of my knowledge
The happygirlie (talk) 20:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
20:34:36, 13 January 2017 review of submission by The happygirlie
What else do you suggest i add to make my draft accepted as i have painstakingly re-edited over and over again and strictly following the Wikipedia policies to the best of my knowledge
The happygirlie (talk) 20:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 20:49:32, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Mbranch06
Hi, this is in regards to the recent page I tried to create for LikeFolio, an investing app/service. I received notes about the companies notability. I'm not quite sure I understand why it is not considered notable? It's had press on various mainstream media (Yahoo Finance, Fox News, Forbes, it's data is used inside of the TD Ameritrade platform, one of the largest financial companies in the world. It's won awards from well recognized financial technology companies, including CNN Money, and it's data is being used in a Georgetown University's McDonough School of Busines study). I just want to make sure I understand what exactly is holding it back from being published. Thanks in advance for your guidance/help.
Mbranch06 (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 21:22:50, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by OfficialRecurrence
There aren't any major reviews because it has not been released yet. The release date of the album was just announced today so I added what I could to get the page started.
OfficialRecurrence (talk) 21:22, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
22:59:52, 13 January 2017 review of submission by 24.84.20.114
- 24.84.20.114 (talk · contribs)
Kashoo is an accounting software company, much like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KashFlow and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeAgent. Both those software companies were able to create Wiki pages with questionable "reliable" sources/referrals. Furthermore, there is a page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software where Kashoo should be listed (and linked to appropriate Kashoo page) however it has been removed. This provides an unfair advantage to accounting software competitors.
Any update on our page getting added? Again, Kashoo is Accounting Software, and should be represented on this document: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software as these are all direct competitors providing Accounting Software. Jan 16, 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7810:1B00:653C:8BE6:6442:C1BC (talk) 18:32, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 01:53:01, 14 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AugustF
I added four references to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mark_Panick and I am still seeing "Submission declined." I have done ample research on the subject (including an in-person interview) so please advise me as to what I need to do to better my chances of a successful submission.≈≈≈≈
AugustF (talk) 01:53, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft:Jiří Walker Procházka
Dear SwisterTwister, I think I have a problem with the fact that the 3 cited works on Czech SF are published and recognized as reliable only here in Czech Republic. One of them was written by O. Neff, who is recognised in en-wikipedia. But this book is in Czech too. You see, JWP writes SF in Czech and most info on him is in Czech again. So people in the English SF world scarsely know of him. I wanted to get some short info in the English speaking version of Wikipedia to break this vicious circle. I created a stub and was gradually forced to expand it. Now I got to the dead end, if you have no advice for me in this, I promise to quit in a month or so. I reckon that the info on JWP will find his way through personal contacts in the end. Ondřej Neff, Josef Nesvadba, Vilma Kadlečková, Miroslav Žamboch, Jaroslav Velinský, Ludvík Souček they all "made it" on similar terms. Maybe the problem is some trivia in my approach and it can be cured. Looking forward to your reply... Erempari (talk) 16:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
19:45:28, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226
Hello SwisterTwister, Could you please expand on your comment: "Comment: What this specifically needs is major book reviews because the current sources noticeably consist of only announcements, listings, blogs and mentions. SwisterTwister talk 22:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)"?
There are two book reviews included in the article for Rowland Saifi; two interviews of Rowland Saifi by well-known, internationally-circulated newspapers; reviews of an exhibition that Rowland Saifi's work is included in, with specific reference to his work, which is a higher tier review.
Also, could you please explain why the article for Emily Pettit was accepted in light of your comments?
I can remove the "Work" section from the Rowland Saifi article if that helps. I can also add his profile from the Poets&Writers Directory, and note that he has been asked to sit on the judge's panel for Newfound Journal's prose prize, two years in a row. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks!98.245.81.226 (talk) 19:45, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
20:13:58, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226
Hi SwisterTwister,
Thank you for your response!
Could you please let me know what would be the specific number of reviews you need? And, which publications you would consider major?
Could you also please let me know why the following article was approved, as it contains reference to a single, 1-paragraph long book review, and a few interviews: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Pettit. Your response would allow me to understand the qualitative decisions you are making. If I compare the articles myself, I am unclear why the short review on the Huffington Post, largely a news aggregator, would be seen as a more reputable review than a focus one by a well-known artist (Mary Berger) in a well-known literary publication (Your Impossible Voice). Is the decision based on circulation numbers?
RE: Comment: Interviews aren't the focused actual reviews we need, and even then, the current number of reviews would not be enough. SwisterTwister talk 19:55, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Comment: What this specifically needs is major book reviews because the current sources noticeably consist of only announcements, listings, blogs and mentions. SwisterTwister talk 22:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC) Thank you for your help!98.245.81.226 (talk) 20:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
23:20:30, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226
Hi SwisterTwister,
Thanks again for your response. I am happy to comply with the standards and am just trying to understand what they are. If the article for Emily Pettit was made prior to the changes, that makes sense. Thanks!98.245.81.226 (talk) 23:20, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
15:47:37, 15 January 2017 review of submission by Benlol98
I've removed the notable section after reading WP:ORG . May I know what else I can do to improve the article? I still have a lot to learn so please do enlighten me.
Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Factom
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Factom. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Template:Z48
Silverlake Axis draft submission
Hi. Actually I added links to Gartner and IDC, which are recognized organizations that have profiled the company and its products. I wouldn't consider those the company's own website.
Mictan236 (talk) 02:27, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Gartner and IDC do independent reviews on many companies in several industries. All the company provides is raw data. This data is then analyzed against the company's competitors with no influence from the company itself. Gartner actually did a deep comparison of SIBS versus other core banking products. I don't know how to show it to you because the full documents require Gartner and IDC subscriptions to access. If this is still not notable enough then I don't think there's anything else I can do.
Mictan236 (talk) 02:36, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Cambodian football AFC submissions
I have a favour to ask. Over the past few months, you have reviewed a couple AFC submissions for articles related to football in Cambodia created by unregistered editors. (See Draft:2017 Cambodian League, Draft:Sun Vandeth, and Draft:Seut Baraing.) If you come across any more of these in the future, would please let me or a SPI clerk know before accepting them, especially if the corresponding article page has been deleted before? The creation of this sort of article by IP's in the draft namespace is fairly strong indicator of sockpuppetry from 089baby (talk · contribs). Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
05:10:36, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Abic1991
I have included news articles from cyclingnews.com and cyclingtips.com, both of which are major sports news outlets. Are these sufficiently important outlets? If so, I can include more references from different articles on these sites
05:34:00, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Alexhaddad91
- Alexhaddad91 (talk · contribs)
Andrew Rothschild has invented the genre bluestronica. There is no published music that falls in this genre of bluestronica. Andrew Rothschild's music does not fit the blues, or electronica genre. Hence he has created a new genre. No artist has claimed their music to be apart of this genre. He has elements of both in his music. The sources are legitimate. This is not a scientific matter, he is an artist and his artwork has received notable attention.
Draft: The Deltahorse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Deltahorse
Hi SwisterTwister,
thanks again for your help on improving this article.
As requested in your first comment on Jan 9 ″″(There's still not enough major reviews from major publications, focus with only major news and reviews and no press releases, trivial passing mentions or interviews. SwisterTwister talk 18:18, 9 January 2017 (UTC))″″ My response was to include links to references with weight, published by credible media only. You then wrote on Jan 13 ″″(Would still benefit from all additional major independent news and reviews. SwisterTwister talk 20:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC))″″ What would you consider independent? Since we are talking about artists and music--I would like to think all published reviews on music reflect the personal opinion of the authors who write about it. As far as this goes I did my best to pick and reference articles with a more neutral point of view. After studying quite a few other articles about artists here on Wiki I must come to the conclusion that their references are not exactly independent. Please help me understand your last request. As always, thank you for your effort. It is appreciated. Christina Katzmann07:48, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
This is an artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by CK KC (talk • contribs) 07:48, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
13:22:24, 16 January 2017 review of submission by SHBCARE
Several new good citations, and more information was added to the draft by user SHBCARE; and I've made some tone and MOS changes. -- Jeandré, 2017-01-16t13:22z
- E.g. this Sydney Morning Herald article. -- Jeandré, 2017-01-16t13:36z
Draft: Hitting Town
Hi SwisterTwister, Thank you for your review of Draft: Hitting Town. Please could you expand on your comment "specifically needs major reviews"? I am very new to Wikipedia and so I am not sure how to contact you for expansion of this and am not sure if you have already left these details for me somewhere?
Many thanks, Emma Emma Bosch (talk) 15:21, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Kalray
Hi SwisterTwister,
I see that you recently reviewed a "Kalray" draft.
To be transparent, I would like to let you know that I am a current employee of Kalray. For years, our company and our products have been cited on Wikipedia, though there is no article in the name of the company. I am happy to see that one has now been created, but disappointed that it was refused.
As we are referenced over a dozen times in various wikipedia articles, I believe it is in the best interest of all concerned to have more information available about our company. Do you have any concrete advice about how to go about improving this article? I noticed that the article did not have scientific references, and it did have PR references. If I added more scientific references (we have dozens of peer-reviewed scientific papers) and took out the PRs, would you be likely to OK the article ?
Thanks! AndreaAndibusch (talk) 16:03, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
20:08:55, 16 January 2017 review of submission by 2601:681:4700:399C:3960:7026:53E9:AD9C
I was researching this company for work and was surprised that they didn't have an article in wikipedia. I wanted to know who they were and what their basic business model was. I had to go to an external source to find this. I thought it would be useful to have this info in wikipedia. I don't work for them, I don't have a vested interest in their success or failure, I just found it annoying that this info wasn't available here, and wanted to fix that.
draft SHARON PINCOTT - going to RESUBMIT
Hello SwisterTwister, Hoped to have a final Live Chat to you, but you're not currently there. I feel confident now that I've done everything that you and Huon have asked me to, after numerous Live Chats to you both - and many, many edits and improvements. Am hoping that it will be okay this time. Thankyou for all of your input, help and encouragement. Arnie1000 (talk) 23:57, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Irene Kepl
Hi SwisterTwister,
thanks for reviewing my first article draft. I'm planning the Soundout festival at the moment and was adding Irene Kepl, because she is one of our main international guests and I wanted to add her to Wikipedia, so Australian listeners who don't know her, yet, would be able to read up on her. As far as I understand, receiving the Theodor Körner Price alone makes her significant enough to be on Wikipedia, and the new source I found for that is directly the page of the Austrian Ministry for Arts and Science. In the genre of improvised music she is basically a "star", leading to the recent publications with FouRecords and Another Timbre as well as the little older SlamRecords publication. Since in improvised music, recordings are not very common, those three publications with the most important labels in improvised music are basically cementing her in as a main player in her field. ;) So, I have added a lot of additional sources, and hope it's enough now for this article to be accepted. Thx for your work, VT
~~Vtsound~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vtsound (talk • contribs) 00:08, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Whiskey Bards
Your comment on my draft said that I needed "major publications" as my sources. But the Wikipedia guidelines for musicians and ensembles do not say anything about "major" publications. The guidelines read: "This criterion includes published works in all forms," but nowhere does it say they have to be major published works.
Two of my sources were album reviews from separate, independent websites, one devoted to folk art, the other to pirate-themed music. In my opinion, this meets the requirement of: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself."
Please reconsider my draft without an insistence on "major" publications, as this is not one of the requirements. Cybotik (talk) 06:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
The websites I used as sources, despite your dismissal, have been cited multiple times by multiple contributors to Wikipedia, including in two articles in which there were only two sources referenced, and in one of those Going Overboard (album), the only other source was no longer active. If one of my sources is acceptable as the single valid source for another Wikipedia article, then it should be acceptable as one of several sources in my own article.
Follow the links to see the various Wikipedia pages using the same sources I did.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=Bilgemunky.com&searchToken=2mbt0vgj36gmzr9cn1tfe6wcg#/search — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybotik (talk • contribs) 08:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
This Wikipedia page, Going_Overboard_(album), has only two sources. One of them is invalid, leading to a defunct site, and the other is a source that I used. Why are the standards lower for this article than they are for mine? If six sources are too few, why are two sources acceptable? Cybotik (talk) 08:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
This music article, Rubber_Biscuit has only three sources, one of them YouTube, one of them a catalog, and the third, just a lyrics page. I could easily source some lyric pages, and an allmusic.com page on the subject of my article. Mtv.com has an artist page for the group, but it wasn't an informative article, so I didn't use it.
This article about a band, Sparx_(US_band), has only two sources, plus a link to the band's website.
This musical show, EFX_(show) has only two sources, yet is somehow acceptable.
If six sources are insufficient, why are these other articles acceptable with fewer than that? Cybotik (talk) 09:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 11:01:09, 17 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by JewishMoldova
Would you please help me to correct my article according to comments below:
1. This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.
2. This is only a business announcement advertising his services and then his own published and republished business announcements, none of it satisfies our policies since it only belongs at his own website; there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else.
Thank you in advance.
JewishMoldova (talk) 11:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
14:25:22, 17 January 2017 review of submission by Yasiryusuf39
- Yasiryusuf39 (talk · contribs)
Hello, I have re- edited and added an additional reference to the article. I will love if you can help me review it again if it has met your standard.
Best regards,
yasiryusuf39
17:42:21, 17 January 2017 review of submission by Travish212
- Travish212 (talk · contribs)
Thank you for your review of my draft. I have been through way too many drafts, re-writes, and deletions for this page. It has been shortened, condensed, and as many sources as are available have been cited. I have read all of the articles that have been linked. There are no other sources available on the internet, as it is a small company. There are no opinions reflected in the draft, only basic facts. I don't see how this can be changed any more. This latest draft is even a re-write from one of your moderators. Please advise.
19:08:52, 17 January 2017 review of submission by KatieEmoto
- KatieEmoto (talk · contribs)
Hello! Can you help me understand what you mean by "Sources are simply focused ASA published and republished business announcements." regarding my article submission for Cos Bar? Thank you!KatieEmoto (talk) 19:08, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
21:03:10, 17 January 2017 review of submission by Btheory78
Hello, Thank you for your review. However I am wondering how Judy Schwartz does fit the following criteria of Politician:
Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature. This also applies to persons who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them.
Also, in terms of notability, Nassau County has 1.36 million residents making it more populous than 10 U.S states. So the 2nd highest ranking government official / office holder is a prominent and influential position. In fact, Wikipedia already has an article on the current serving Chief Deputy County Executive of Nassau County: Rob Walker (New York Politician), so why would a former one be considered differently? Wikipedia even has individual articles on former members of the Nassau County Legislature (Ex: Diane Yatauro, Judith Jacobs, etc.) - positions not considered as notable as the Chief Deputy County Executive. Since Judy Schwartz served from 1999 - 2001, web archives from local papers such as the Long Island Press and Newsday are more difficult to track down since those publications still existed in print at the turn of this century. However, New York Times as a national publication did have online readership and maintained an active web archive - which is why I included it for reference to Judy Schwartz (not to mention the Nassau Coliseum controversy involved a lot of New York power players, Judy Schwartz being one of them - hence the article's title "Power Play over Nassau Coliseum."). Therefore, I am kindly requesting you reconsider this article.
Thank you for your time and all your important contributions to Wikipedia. Btheory78 (talk) 21:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
21:27:43, 17 January 2017 review of submission by 86.142.251.238
Appreciate the comment regarding notability, however surely an amateur gym which produces a national finalist every five years; has a host of professional boxers at its platform and trained a world heavyweight contender is defined with some element of notability? References, both past and present, throughout the history of this establishment highlight its significance?
I'd very much appreciate your feedback as to how I can make this article more robust.
Request on 22:10:04, 17 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Marcdean69
- Marcdean69 (talk · contribs)
Marcdean69 (talk) 22:10, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing, but none of these is a business announcement. They are public reviews from reputed photographers and bloggers and forums. The social media profiles are the biggest sites on the Internet and show our following and time in the industry. We have the biggest facebook following. We are the #1 company in the industry and have been in it from the beginning of a young industry, over 5 years. And a competitor that's been in business for 18 months has their own wikipedia page; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeklens.com
This doesn't seem too legitimate to me and I'm wondering how you can make such quick and incorrect decisions. The system seems to be flawed here at Wikipedia.
Request on 22:50:06, 17 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Amirparam
Hello , Thank you for reviewing my article.
I have added Tahere Falahati's videos ( produced by CBC) and aired by reliable TV networks such as BBC. Also there are interviews with her by Voice of America TV and DW.
I am not sure what else is needed. Can you please help me?
Thank you, (Amirparam (talk) 22:50, 17 January 2017 (UTC))
Amirparam (talk) 22:50, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 01:30:41, 18 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Johnmadera
- Johnmadera (talk · contribs)
Hello. I've used as references notable publications, like American Book Review, The Brooklyn Rail, The Nervous Breakdown, etc. Each of them are respected, nationally respected publications. Please advise. Thanks. Johnmadera (talk) 01:30, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Johnmadera (talk) 01:30, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
TravelKhana banned editor?
If I understood you correctly, you said that one of the !voters in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TravelKhana has since been banned. But I can't figure out who you are referring to. Maybe my eyes are just tired... Brianhe (talk) 05:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Brianhe Yes, it was Safehaven, a CU-confirmed sockmaster of PR articles. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 05:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I see now. Odd that the userpage hasn't been tagged. Calling Smartse as well: Did you read Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Maslowsneeds/Archive? Very troubling; this is a new kind of sophistication I haven't seen before. They played the "good hand" role well; I see this editor bringing valid information to other SPIs which is highly unusual to say the least for an account being played as a sock itself. - Brianhe (talk) 06:05, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Brianhe Yes, it was Safehaven, a CU-confirmed sockmaster of PR articles. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 05:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Whiskey Bards
Please re-evaluate my draft according to the actual guidelines, which do not require "major" publications, and according to the same standards by which the Wikipedia pages below were accepted. All of them have fewer sources than I do, and some of them use the same sources. You cannot claim I have too few sources when the articles below do not have as many. And you cannot claim that my sources are inadequate as some of them are shared with the articles below. I even added three new sources. I now have eight more sources than the first article on the list below, and the one valid source on that page is also one of my sources. If that article was acceptable, then my article should be acceptable if the same standard is used.
This Wikipedia page, Going_Overboard_(album), has only two sources, one of them invalid, the other is also one of my sources.
This music article, Rubber_Biscuit has only three sources, one of them You Tube.
This article about a band, Sparx_(US_band), has only two sources, plus a link to the band's website.
This musical show, EFX_(show) has only two sources. Cybotik (talk) 09:17, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Copyvio checks for drafts
I've seen a number of pages in the last couple of days that were reviewed by you at AFC and were subsequently deleted as a copyright violation (or severely trimmed and revdel'd). A draft should always be checked for CVs before being reviewed. Additionally, when tagging a page as G12, the creator of the page should be notified so that at the very least they're informed of the copyright rules. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 15:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Submission for review
Dear SwisterTwister,
I honestly don't know why my page is being considered for deletion. I've been benchmarking pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinel_Capital_Partners and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_North_Venture_Partners, and I don't see the difference in quality of references between them and us. I don't want to point other pages, but to me it seems like there's a double standard being applied where we're being put in a disadvantage. You said that we use flat out PR material, but please have a look at my references again. My first reference is not PR material but introduces our company in the context of growing healthcare market in Chicago. Second source is from highbeam and does not passingly mention our company but showcases our company in the context of private equity. Considering that companies like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Growth_Partners use flat out PR material, I don't know why we're being considered for deletion. Could you at least give me a direct explanation of why you give a pass for some companies over others? My other references are also not direct advertisements but comments from news sources. Please have a look. Thank you
Regarding some references I included, you really have to read a few sentences of the article to realize that it is really about us. It might at first glance appear to be a passing mention, but that is not the case. Pages like Highbeam require subscription to get a full view of the article, so maybe that is why you think it's a passing mention? Also, if you look at the business magazine I referenced, it describes our company in a few paragraphs, not just as a passing mention. I invite your patience and kindly ask you to review our references once more. Thank you. Mjiangscp (talk) 17:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC) "Mjiangscp (talk) 17:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC)"
Kanchana V Subbarathnam - draft, help needed
Hi David, Thank you for reviewing my draft on Kanchana V Subbarathnam. The person on who I wrote the page, does not have references in news websites. He died in 2005 and lived in India. Is it acceptable to add reference material available in another website? I do have some old letters, news paper clippings and photos which prove the fact that this person was a true achiever. But I don't see a way to upload them as proof. I honestly feel that we need to include this person on wikipedia for his achievements, please help.
Thank you, Sumanasa Sumanasa (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
17:48:10, 18 January 2017 review of submission by Olusola David, Ayibiowu
Please! can I go to National Gallery of Art, Lagos, at National Theater Iganmu, Lagos to sources reliable reference of painting picture I donated to them years ago or where can I look for sources?Olusola David, Ayibiowu (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
19:27:33, 18 January 2017 review of submission by 84.222.43.99
- 84.222.43.99 (talk · contribs)
Dear SwisterTwister, after your suggestions on 28th december 2017 about Enzo Minarelli draft, I have been working about and I have submitted a new draft following what you wrote, I think now it works, I will be very happy to know your opinion, with my best
Seeking feedback on new article
Hello, I recently posted a new article on my employer’s company, Spredfast. I now see that there was a previous article, deleted in May in a discussion you took part in. I understand that I have a COI. However, I believe with this new version I have closely followed Wikipedia’s editing guidelines and that the article is written in a neutral tone and is supported with credible references. If you're able to take a look, I would appreciate feedback. Bthoma (talk) 21:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
22:12:40, 18 January 2017 review of submission by 124.157.106.97
Hello SwisterTwister, I understand your point of view and the publishing rules on Wikipedia. Really, I do! The reason I decided to send the article in Wikipedia (even it doesn't respect the rules) is because Ezi Car Rental is become the first 100% Kiwi own rental company in New Zealand. New Zealand is a small country. References are not like in Europe (where I come from) or another big country in the World. With the current rules of publication only the big companies can be on Wikipedia. Is it really the most relevant point of view for an online encyclopedia? I could be wrong but I don't think so. It is not an argumentation for publishing the article about Ezi Car Rental. Your decision respect the rules. It is just my point of view about this. Now, I will wait until someone else decide that Ezi Car Rental is enough relevant to be on Wikipedia. Thank you for your time and for your participation to Wikipedia. Jeremy
22:33:57, 18 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy
The band "The Hot Place" fits your guideline as, "an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." The founding member and guitarist of The Hot Place, Jeff Calder, is a notable musician who is also currently active in the band "The Swimming Pool Q's". The Swimming Pool Q's are a national band, and have been recognized in Rolling Stone magazine, their most recent album "1984-1986:The A&M Years" was a Rolling Stone "Reissue of the Year", picked by David Fricke, on page 32 of the December 19-Jan 2 2014 print magazine. The Swimming Pool Q's have had five national/international album releases, on the major labels A&M, Capitol, and Bar None. The singer and other founding member of The Hot Place, Lisa King has has been a member of notable band The Glenn Phillips band, who have released albums on Virgin and Sony Records. King also played keyboards with The Swimming Pool Q's from 2003-2006. The Hot Place features guest guitarist Richard Lloyd of the band "Television", another member of a prominent 1970's band, with historical releases on Elektra records. The Hot Place has been featured in print, in significant North American publications "Georgia Music Magazine", "Stomp and Stammer", and "Creative Loafing."
23:02:39, 18 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy
The Hot Place is directly connected to two major musical artists. One of its founding members is Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's, and guest artist Richard Lloyd of Television, who already have Wikipedia Pages. Could you please clarify how to substantiate that more? I did connect The Hot Place to The Swimming Pool Q's via internal Wikipedia linking. The sources cited, if read in detail, are more than just announcements, interviews, and mentions. They directly discuss how Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's and Richard Lloyd of Television are connected to and/or are members of the Atlanta band The Hot Place. Many of the album reviews and mentions of the band are in analog print media, though I have found several digital places where the band's members are verified and substantiated. Thank you for your help!
This article in particular substantiates The Hot Place's history and verifies the notable musicians who are members. http://www.clatl.com/music/article/13080910/new-wavers-instudio-chemistry-ignites-the-hot-place. I'm not sure how this is not a substantial source. If you could clarify, I would so appreciate it! Thank you!
Wikidata help
Hi,
I think you were the one helping me on the webchat - thanks for the link to the wikidata chat. I thought it would open up a new window, but I was routed directly to it and didn't have a chance to say thanks. So, thanks for your help.—CaroleHenson (talk) 00:53, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
00:57:41, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy
This following source, was both online and in print. It's the official music magazine for the State of Georgia, "Georgia Music Magazine". You will see the "Georgia on my Mind" peach logo on the upper right hand part of the page. I realize that it's not the most attractive looking source, but it is credible. The Hot Place was featured in a printed edition of Georgia Music Magazine on November 3rd, 2014 and this is how the printed article appeared online: http://georgiamusic.org/members-of-television-pool-qs-converge-in-the-hot-place/. The band is relatively new, with one album and three EP's, but I believe it's a historic and important project, because of the notability of the musicians involved. Especially because the founding member, Jeff Calder, already has a Wikipedia page for his other very well known national band, "The Swimming Pool Q's" as does contributing guitarist, Richard Lloyd of Television. Though this source is an announcement, it is more than that. It's also a verification of the project, by a State-run entertainment publication. It's hard to find any more sources for The Hot Place, that are not based in music publications, since they are a musical project. For instance, there is no information on random news sites like The New York Times, or sources that are on a different topic that music. Please advise, as I would really love this to be my first article for Wikipedia. It's a notable band that is not already in Wikipedia, and that is exciting to me, for a first article. I am interested in publishing more articles on other diverse topics as well. I appreciate all of your help, and I'm willing to do whatever I need to make this a good first article.
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01:31:05, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Jadis White
- Jadis White (talk · contribs)
Hi SisterTwister! Thanks for taking the time to have a look at the changes to the article... Just a quick question for clarification (so that I can get the next edit right): Is the problem that there are not enough external references? A bit confused, as the first reviewer indicated that the article was copied, so I removed all direct references to this (even though they were quoted/cited), but not that there weren't enough notable articles... Please let me know what I need to do to improve the article and have it accepted. Thanks again!
02:55:39, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Frank Cianciullo
Hi, I would respectfully appreciate a review. Melissa Del Pinto has been recognized as a Canadian artist by The National Gallery of Canada and her name was added to the “Government of Canada, Canadian Heritage Database of Canadian Artists”. I have added the link. In addition, to address the points used to refuse her submission, her paintings are in the collections of notable Canadian collectors. I added the name of Irwin and Claude Lande. Mr. Lande is a noted real-estate developer living in Westmount (Montreal).
Request on 14:35:52, 19 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by OanaST
Hello!
Before this article, I wrote another one, based in Wikipedia's best practice and other helpful articles. Also, I took as examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_%26_Young; Then I started to search for other types of companies and I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norauto and think it's not an unique case. Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decathlon_Group in which there are references from their own website ( and I understand that is not acceptable ).
So, do you understand my frustration ? Thank you in advance for your reply!
OanaST (talk) 14:35, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Pamela Ryder article
Hello.
I've added an additional reference, this time from The Huffington Post.
Irving Malin is a legendary critic, who's listed on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Malin
I also included D’Aoust’s review from the BROOKLYN RAIL (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brooklyn_Rail), and Robert Glick's review in AMERICAN BOOK REVIEW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Book_Review). These are all reputable sources, as demonstrated that they've been vetted as reputable by Wikipedia itself.
Please advise.
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnmadera (talk • contribs) 16:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Regarding Faia Younan's wiki
Hi Dear,
I have took your advise from the help section and added more sources to my draft.
in your comment you mentioned that: "Listed sources are simply announcements and mentions"
However, the sources are not mentioning nor announcing. They are all telling her story.
Please re-check the sources, and kindly advise on what is missing in those sources, I would like to know how to test the source as you do, before re-trying to publish :)
Thank you.
TestCandidate 19:46, 19 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TestCandidate (talk • contribs)
19:51:49, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy
I have worked on finding more sources for my citations. The first three reference citations, are from National, credible print and digital magazines, the state run publication "Georgia Music Magazine", and a newspaper which is owned by the Atlanta Journal and Constitution, "Creative Loafing." The References directly explain how The Hot Place contains two notable international musicians in its lineup, Jeff Calder of “The Swimming Pool Q's” and Richard Lloyd of “Television.” Especially notable is source #2, Georgia Music Magazine. This is a state-run print and digital publication. Source 1 and 3 are not merely announcements, they are also detailed articles which explain The Hot Place's debut, and the notable musicians that are involved in the historic project. I also added another source that I found this morning, “Arts Talk” on Blog Talk Radio, Episode #104 Lisa King. I have also looked at other Atlanta bands Wikipedia pages. Some of these are groups which are far less notable than The Hot Place, with no notable musicians involved, and cite less reliable sources. So, I'm curious as to why those articles were approved, and this one is being rejected. Please advise! My sources all verify the notable musicians involved in The Hot Place.
Added another cited source, from "The Recoup" magazine, by Joseph Kyle, in which Jeff Calder directly speaks about being a member and producer of The Hot Place band, with musician Lisa King. https://therecoup.com/2014/04/21/swimming-pool-qs-working-at-the-nut-factory/. The article quotes Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's, "We have about 2/3 of a new album mixed, and a few basic tracks standing by in the queue, waiting to be finished. I’ve co-produced them with Tim Delaney, a talented Atlanta musician and engineer we’ve worked with as far back as Royal Academy. It certainly helps that I’m friends with a number of great recording engineers, many of whom I was fortunate to be associated with at Atlanta’s legendary Southern Tracks studio, which I helped to manage for many years and where I was on the periphery of what seems like a hundred major rock albums produced by Brendan O’Brien.I like doing new things, having recently produced and played on an album by The Hot Place, Lisa King’s band based in Atlanta. It’s a pretty cool record that has a song called “Saturn Moved” on which Richard Lloyd of Television unleashes a wild solo."
Review of submission by Pipkin2.0 - Draft:Chartered Institution for Further Education
Would you be kind enough to revisit? Thanks Pipkin2.0 (talk) 21:31, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
23:10:16, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Djgriffin7
- Djgriffin7 (talk · contribs)
Hello: Irene W. Leigh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Irene_Leigh) does seem to fit criteria number 5 for Wikipedia:Notability (academics). Her page notes she was awarded the "Distinguished Faculty Award".
Also, although she has not created a Google Scholar profile, searching her name shows her work is heavily cited (see https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Irene+W.+Leigh&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=1%2C1&oq=Irene)
Leigh has written many books and her appointment on the State of Maryland Board of Examiners of Psychologists is an impressive feat.
Djgriffin7 (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 23:33:02, 19 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by TheSandDoctor
@SwisterTwister: I saw your message regarding how the references are "not the needed substance". What would you consider needed substance? I thought that the BBC articles as well as Guinness Book of World Records would be of sufficient weight reference wise (or are they and it is the other ones mainly?). If you would like to assist with the article, your help would be much appreciated.
TheSandDoctor (talk) 23:33, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi David. Unfortunately the new version of this page is sufficiently different to the one deleted at AFD (more content, more (and different) sources) that I can't really justify deleting it under G4. If you want to throw it up at AFD again, you'll hear no objection from me, however. All the best, Yunshui 雲水 13:35, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
- The same goes for Marta DuBois. Primefac (talk) 16:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Joydip.B (talk) 17:05, 20 January 2017 (UTC) Hi SwisterTwister, thanks for your review my article Tractors India Pvt Ltd, i made certain changes to improve the notability issue, its a 20+ years old company & very popular in indian heavy equipment sector, but those are the only online references i found, if still something missing please suggest how to improve.
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Urban developers
Thank you for proposing Urban developers for deletion. The PROD was contested, and I have started a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Urban developers. — Sam Sailor 19:16, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 22:18:26, 20 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Copeboox
I have had a reviewer SwisterTwister reject my draft page "Draw SVG", on the grounds that the article needs substantial references independent of the source.
This is nonsense - there are similar published articles about scalable vector graphics that do not have "substantial" referencing. Look at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dia_(software)#References
This is an open source software tool and it needs promotion in order to gain more "substantial references". The article meets Wikipedia's requirements.
I ask for a reconsideration, to publish the page, because it meets Wikipedia's requirements.
Thanks, Copeboox (talk) 22:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Copeboox (talk) 22:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Please use more care in tagging sandbox for speedy deletion
You left a speedy deletion tag on a new user's sandbox (a student of mine) for content that she created all of thirty minutes before your tag. I think that is way too aggressive. Perhaps she mistakenly submitted it for review thinking she might be able to get feedback.
I have removed the speedy delete tag and will continue to work with her this semester to create a good article. -Reagle (talk) 22:47, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
- {{tps}} @Reagle: I tagged it as copyvio. It's all (or at least almost all) cut'n'paste from various websites. That is a complete non-starter by WP policy. We can't host that sort of thing even for a few minutes, and using it as a draft or basis to "tweak a wording here and there" still leaves it all tainted as a derivative work. DMacks (talk) 22:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Draw SVG draft page
SwisterTwister, I have added as much as I can to this draft page, but this "throwback" of a legitimate article is unproductive. You incorrectly claim that it is a "clear business listing". It is not a business, and there is no commercial gain anywhere - it is software, free to use and open source (like other similar Wikipedia pages - Inkscape, Dia(software), SVG-edit), and I don't know how you can come to that conclusion from reading the article. It is free software designed to help software developers and designers. You previously claimed that there were no "substantial" improvements to a redraft. Would you like to help me out please by specifying exactly what you mean by "needs substantial references"? How many references do you think it would take to publish? Why? Is your decision based on Wikipedia guidelines? I'm trying to understand your rationale. Given my explanation, do you now agree that this is not a business promotion? There are other published pages covering similar software with just three references - yes, published. I look forward to the next re-review (again). Copeboox (talk) 07:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
00:10:17, 22 January 2017 review of submission by Kent Westlund
Could you highlight for me the specific sentences that read like advertising. I'm willing to fix them but am struggling to identify them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:LuLaRoe
Kent Westlund (talk) 00:10, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
I have deleted the sections you objected to. Kent Westlund (talk) 00:42, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Could you let me know which of the 15 sources I've included are inappropriate. I can fix the ones you don't like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:LuLaRoe Kent Westlund (talk) 00:54, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
02:12:43, 22 January 2017 review of submission by 63.92.245.105
we are requesting a review because the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jonathan_Aldridge page has great sources and the subject is notable
Benny Castillo managed the subject and his page has been approved.
Aldridge is just as notable as Castillo and should be approved
Request on 11:19:03, 22 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by 202.168.62.236
Hello, thank you for reviewing the submission so promptly. I am confused as to why this page has not been approved though.
Here in Australia, The Sydney Morning Herald is one of the largest print newspapers in the country. Cinema Australia and FilmInk are two of the most prominent entertainment media sources we have. These sources are completely independent of the subject and their reliability cannot be questioned.
As for some of the other citations, I have included these in an effort to reference all materials in the article, which I have also kept to a minimum for the time being in order to make sure all presented materials are referenced. I understand that using the website of a film the subject has worked on may not seem independent, even if it is, however these can be taken out if necessary. As for Imdb, this is a third-party controlled webpage and whilst the references come from a page based on the subject, all content is strictly monitored by the website and is not controlled by the subject. Imdb's webpage has a portion for additional user-information, however these are separated from the official listings and always noted as such.
Writing this page on behalf of the subject, I have used many other current Wikipedia pages as a reference point, some of which have far less references and fewer acting credits than this subject. There are many more publications I can reference to get this page approved, however I didn't deem it necessary to include so many as the information overlaps.
Can you please let me know what it is that has drawn you to conclude that this subject is not notable enough to approve the article? I am happy to take out any references that you highlight as violations to your guidelines, however, within the 16 current references present in the draft article, there is absolutely significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Without question.
Thank you again for your time and consideration.
202.168.62.236 (talk) 11:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- You say above that you have been "[w]riting this page on behalf of the subject". Please read and digest Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. -- Hoary (talk) 13:34, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Per your request, I have deleted the sections "History: Founding", "Products", "Business Model" and "Sales Methods". This leaves only the introduction and criticisms of the firm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:LuLaRoe
Kent Westlund (talk) 20:48, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
The reply is referencing another article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.168.62.236 (talk) 04:21, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
WP:Wikipedia is not a business listing listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a business listing. Since you had some involvement with the WP:Wikipedia is not a business listing redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Unscintillating (talk) 21:47, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Your signature vs. HTML5
Hello there! I'm working on a project trying to bring most of the coding on Wikipedia up to the most current standards (HTML5), and I noticed that your signature is using <font>...</font>
tags which were deprecated in HTML 4.0 Transitional, marked as invalid in 4.0 Strict, and are not part of HTML5 at all. I'd love to help you update your signature to use newer code, and if you're interested, I suggest replacing:
[[User:SwisterTwister|<font color="green">'''S'''wister'''T'''wister</font>]] [[User talk:SwisterTwister|<font color="green">talk</font>]]
with:
[[User:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">'''S'''wister'''T'''wister</span>]] [[User talk:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]
which will result in a 152 character long signature with an appearance of: SwisterTwister talk compared to your existing 138 character long signature of: SwisterTwister talk — Either way. Happy editing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josve05a (talk • contribs) 23:17, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 00:34:54, 23 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Rakanishu666
- Rakanishu666 (talk · contribs)
Hey dude, thanks for reviewing my first post. Sorry, this is my first article. I think it's got everything you wanted.
Rakanishu666 (talk) 00:34, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
06:35:43, 23 January 2017 review of submission by Simonetech
- Simonetech (talk · contribs)
Hi SwisterTwiser,
We are contacting you because you have raised query regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sanjeev_Sharma page.
We would like to let you know that he is a famous personality that you can easily review from https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Sanjeev+Sharma&oq=Sanjeev+Sharma&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2j0l2j69i59.322j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&safe=active&q=Sanjeev+Sharma+Actor link.
I would like you to guide us to make it live.
Looking forward to your reply.
Regards, Simone.
Request on 14:50:16, 23 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Carackus
Carackus (talk) 14:50, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks again for the helpful advice I will follow up the suggestion just a bit busy at the moment, but thanks again.
Carackus.
Scott Mannion
You failed to provide a reason for the G6 tag on Scott Mannion. Seems like a valid redirect. Primefac (talk) 17:54, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
- Page deleted. Primefac (talk) 18:13, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
18:14:28, 23 January 2017 review of submission by Skire913
I have resubmitted the article to incorporate all the changes suggested by yourself and other Wikipedia reviewers. I have made substantial changes throughout the document
to get rid of any extraneous or unnecessary language, with the effect of streamlining the article. The article now only contains direct and informative language with no self-promotional or journal-like language. I believe you will find the changes I have made to be much more in line with a Wikipedia article.
Request on 19:50:12, 23 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Allanatwork
- Allanatwork (talk · contribs)
It is unclear to me whether you did your review before/after I made my changes on Jan 16. I have the following comments to yours
- Solidar Suisse is not a business, rather a NGO charity. I suppose/hope it is true that a Wikipedia entry would improve the visibility of the organisation.
- Solidar Suisse is a recognised charity. This is confirmed by references 3 and 5. I could hope that this would satisfy the notability criteria. There is also the fact that Solidar Suisse receives significant support from the Swiss government
- Solidar Suisse has Wikipedia entries in the French and German editions. Isn't it only reasonable to allow an English entry in such a case?
As you may have read I am a beginning beginner and not terribly into this yet. Should I have run the AfC tool?
I would appreciate any help that could lead to an accepted article Allanatwork (talk) 19:50, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Allanatwork (talk) 19:50, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
00:07:20, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Hoovbacca
Obviously trying very hard to conform this to meet the criteria, but wanted to clarify what was meant by focusing on all additional major news, there is a video interview from CNN, but most of the stories tend to refer mostly back to the Chicago Facebook page that I mentioned as a primary source, which to me makes the additional sources a bit moot, but I am willing to do what is needed to get this thing done :) Any further guidance/advice you can offer would be extremely appricated...thanks for the fast review!
Request on 24 January 2017 for AfC by MasterSloper516
Hello! Can you please help me identify the specific areas that read like advertising and how else I can present this in a neutral tone and prove notability? The sources are all independent and verifiable.
While researching for this draft, I loosely structured it after similar companies in Veterans United's industry, such as Quicken Loans, Navy Federal Credit Union and USAA. Further, can you explain why USAA and Navy Federal cite their own websites as verifiable references?
Looking forward to improving this draft. Thanks. MasterSloper516 (talk) 02:35, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
07:11:07, 24 January 2017 review of submission by MJHAB
Hello SwisterTwister ,
may i know what part you saw as advertising or not notable in order for me to re-write the article or try to find more notable sources.
I just saw the comments and trying to get more notable sources in order to back my article, however i have one question, the company is called Transmed however i couldn't use this name because some has redirected this name to Trans-Mediterranean Pipeline , could this be reason for you not finding any notable source online, since the search should be for Transmed and not Transmed holding? MJHAB (talk) 07:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello SwisterTwister , sorry to bother you again, but on Wiki help chat they advised me to re-ask you about what exactly are the sources that you didn't see notable. Especially that the sources you provided mainly covers foreign companies and not Lebanese. Thank you MJHAB (talk) 08:54, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
08:18:54, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Dignan00
Thank you for your time. Rene Moreno meets the notability requirements when you look at it from the angle that he is a very significant person with Down syndrome. That's key here. His documentary is commonplace in collegiate special education curriculums across the country, and has been for 17 years. Up Syndrome has been on Netflix, Hulu amongst many other major streaming outlets for many years. His movies have been the subject of reviews in major trades such as Daily Variety (which is referenced), and he has won a very prestigious award from the National Down Syndrome Congress of the USA (also referenced), which is one of the largest organizations to promote the awareness of Down syndrome that exists in the world today. I think when you look at this person with the correct angle you will understand that he is indeed notable and worthy of inclusion.
Request on 09:11:04, 24 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Berenice at John Cabot University
Dear SwisterTwister, thank you for reviewing the article. The current article about John Cabot University contains very little information so I was hoping that I could submit a new one. Is there perhaps another place to submit an entire article for consideration? I would appreciate any advice you could give me since I have received a lot of conflicting information over the past year.
Kind regards,
Berenice at John Cabot University (talk) 09:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Berenice at John Cabot University (talk) 09:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
10:01:14, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Rakanishu666
- Rakanishu666 (talk · contribs)
Hi there Swister, this now has everything asked for. If you are not from Australia you may not be aware how notable these references are/ biggest papers in the whole country and our TV BBC/NBC. thanks again for looking.
Request on 10:30:23, 24 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Bhargav-504
- Bhargav-504 (talk · contribs)
I received message like Not satisfying WP:POLITICIAN.
Please help me
Bhargav-504 (talk) 10:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Bhargav-504 (talk) 10:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
15:39:12, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Terry Winston
hey this is my first time creating a wiki page but the information is true how can i validate these sources ?
16:29:55, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Sean Pollock
- Sean Pollock (talk · contribs)
Hi please can i create this page ? i can add it in a more Wiki style?
16:35:45, 24 January 2017 review of submission by M.Renae
Hi, I made a few more edits to the sources on the Simply Gluten Free Magazine page. Could you please re-review?
Also, if it's still not up to par with the standards, perhaps you could help me find additional sources or tell me which of the sources I've included are good and which are not sufficient. To be honest, there are not very many news media outlets or independent news sources that write articles about magazines in general, unless that magazine hits an all-time record for something, is part of some controversy, is founded by a big-name celebrity like Oprah or Rachael Ray, or is bought or sold by another media company. I've been looking at other publications' Wikipedia pages to see what kinds of sources they use and I'm not seeing that high-quality of sources. I looked at VegNews, which has sources that aren't what I'd consider "independent news sources" and Naked Food Magazine has no sources listed at all. Also, I was looking at Whole Foods Magazine's Wikipedia page and it has 5 sources, 3 of which are its own website and 1 comes up as a 404 error and the other is just a library website that has no mention of the magazine. The sources I've provided for Simply Gluten Free Magazine's page are far superior to the sources in any of these 3 other magazines' pages that were approved by the moderators of Wikipedia, so I would like the page to please be reconsidered.
Thank you, M.Renae (talk) 16:35, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
18:10:15, 24 January 2017 review of submission by 129.16.140.95
Please be more specific as to what should be improved. The sources are all reliable and independent of the subject. The amount of, the breadth and the character of the sources, as well as the notable award winners proof that the article is about a notable subject. So if this is not enough, please be specific about what should be improved.
18:52:40, 24 January 2017 review of submission by NicoleforSS
- NicoleforSS (talk · contribs)
To whom it may concern,
I am unsure as to why these sources don't qualify as "reputable"? As one of the leading interior designers in the united states who has contributed to his field in such a reputable way, Scott Salvator's page should really be included. The history of interior design becoming a true art form was highly shaped by Mr. Salvator, so please advise as to how the page should be edited for acceptance.
Thank you, Nicole M Farkas
- I happened to see this discussion, and took a look at Draft:Scott Salvator. It is possible that we should have an article on this designer, given this NY Times article from 2012 "In Defense of the Decorator". But the current state of the material does not look usable for Wikipedia -- it is too promotional and includes excessive detail about Salvator's personal history. Within the first 60 seconds, an experienced Wikipedian would take out 'is recognized as one of the country’s premier designers' from the opening sentence. If you want to know how to write this, try to find a NY Times reported obituary of a designer and see how it's done (the tone and level of detail). One problem is that the Times articles where Salvator is mentioned often use a light-hearted gossipy tone (as in the social pages) and it doesn't give much to work from. EdJohnston (talk) 20:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
06:18:26, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Riddhi1981
- Riddhi1981 (talk · contribs)
Hello I want to know why my submission has been rejected please? Please let me the solutions.
07:03:34, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Robfarago
Thank you for your feedback. This is my first article. I have only ever made minor contributions to other article over the last 10 years or so. Before I wrote this article I read the pages that talk about notability and also needing independent credible sources from news/media publishers who have editors etc.. I believe the page I have drafted has merit based on the guidelines. The development of renewable energy in Australia has been significantly influenced by not for profit and grass roots groups such as Local Power. Not sure if you had a chance to read/view many of the references and if you did perhaps you are not familiar with the Australian media organisations in the references?
The TV coverage of this community initiative was made by the ABC TV network and the TEN TV network. The Australian ABC is a highly credible news organisation of journalistic integrity spanning radio, TV and online. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation The Australian TEN TV network is one of our 3 commercial news networks and comparable to perhaps NBC or CBS in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Ten Both of these TV broadcast news services thought this was a newsworthy community initiative which had not been done before. The youtube clips are recordings of the prime time TV news article which were broadcast to audiences of over 1 million people each.
Similarly the ATA is a very credible member based organisation and magazine publisher of ReNew magazine, which has been publishing since 1980 and is not up to it's 138th quarterly magazine https://www.ata.org.au/who/history They chose to write a feature article about the Local Power project because it was something new and novel.
Finally the City South News is a local community newspaper and part of the News Corporation stable of newspapers. While I am not a big fan or Rupert Murdoch (Fox News yuk!) he did get his starts running newspapers in Australia This chain of local papers are said to have 1 million readers weekly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quest_Community_Newspapers
I would humbly ask you to take a closer look at the references, taking into account the above information about independence, and please reconsider this rejection.
thank you.
10:20:04, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Westy14
Request on 16:06:48, 25 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Eragonscout
- Eragonscout (talk · contribs)
Thank you for reviewing my article.
Eragonscout (talk) 16:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
16:51:03, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Russianradio
- Russianradio (talk · contribs)
Thanks for you review! These are the references from Russian books. Can they be considered as external links? Thank you.
17:03:27, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Mvavz
Hi SwisterTwister, thanks first of all for the quick review of the Cook & Becker page I'm drafting. I'm not requesting a re-review just yet, but I'd like to know what you mean by "major independent news". The sources I've listed are also referenced in many other game (related) wiki articles, and two of them are long form editorial articles. Are you saying they're not independent enough, not major enough, or both?
Thanks in advance for clarifying!Mvavz (talk) 17:03, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Whoops!
I reverted a creator removed speedy from a recent draft you tagged, then unreverted because I noticed it was a draft but wanted to let you know that I've actually retagged it as G12 because it had pretty significant copyvios. Sorry for any confusion! Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Min-On resubmission
Hope this works.Stgrlee16 (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 00:40:07, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Oddjob84
I am aware the article Pirates 4-D already exists. If you look at it, you will see it runs less than a quarter page, and has two working references. My revision runs a page and a half with 41 references. I was simply trying to forstall the possibility of an edit war, and get some input, as this is my first major edit. So, never mind. I will just drop it in the article, and see what happens. Oddjob84 (talk) 00:40, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Oddjob84 (talk) 00:40, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
05:09:40, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Brn odisha
- Brn odisha (talk · contribs)
Please check the Government of India Website
http://www.padmaawards.gov.in/PDFS/PadmaAwards-2017_25012017.pdf
and http://www.sangeetnatak.gov.in/sna/Awardees.php?section=aa
Please let me know what else do I need to add.
Request on 11:07:07, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by H.basold
Hi, I am unsure what "major independent news" means in this case. As the article is about an academic award, it will mostly be covered by people who are interested in that specific field. There is some third party coverage, however:
- The Association for Automated Reasoning announced the call for nominations.
- Luca Aceto, a well-known scientist in the field, posted an interview with the two awardees after the presentation.
- The Newsletter of Stanford Engineering, mentions the awardees.
Would any of this or a combination suffice to justify the article?
Best, H.basold (talk) 11:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Dedeman Hotels
Hello SwisterTwister. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Dedeman Hotels, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 is not about notability. Speedy shouldn't be used when multiple established users already disagreed with deletion. Use AfD instead. Thank you. SoWhy 11:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 12:54:38, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AmyPetit
Dear SwisterTwister,
You refused my page about Crowdyhouse a first time as you mentioned I did not add enough relevant sources to it. I added 3 paragraphs from what I found on internet, added references from Wired or even a External link from the Foreign and Commonwealth office of the United Kingdom which I think reveals something about the notability of the company. For this reason I don't understand your comment ("Still nothing had changed and it's still violating our policy WP:Wikipedia is not a business listing because this is simply what they would advertise to clients."). Could you please explain me in what way these references are not good enough? It is not about advertising but about trying to understand Wikipedia in order to be able to bring better contributions to the website.
Kind regards,
AmyPetit (talk) 12:54, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
14:39:58, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Mexcorp1
The references site politics nigeria as a source of information. pls state in simple terms what makes a valid reference..please. thanks
14:48:31, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Giorgi gusharashvili
We are advertising agency from a small country and we have some notable achievements, we've submitted our Wiki article for review for the third time and it has been declined. We wanted to know how could we adjust the text to make it acceptable for Wikipedia policies. The reviewer deleted it because of "advertising purposes", but the thing is that the references that we have are valid and we don't know what much else to provide. Please help, sincerely, Leavingstone
15:06:43, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Beckcurran
- Beckcurran (talk · contribs)
Hello, the article was rejected as it did not meet the WP:PROF#Criteria but the subject of the article is not a professor or academic, she is an author and business woman and does meet the WP:BIO#Criteria. (as she has received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject).
I have now edited the article, is this acceptable now? Thanks for your help. Beckcurran (talk) 15:06, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 16:07:34, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by SunSetter
Thank you for reviewing. To establish notability, I have added news coverage of Carbon Tracker's reports by major, independent news outlets - Bloomberg, Financial Times, The Guardian, Forbes, Reuters. That organisations of this caliber devote standalone articles to the individual reports of a think-tank is, I believe, sufficient proof of relevance. I have cut down on the organisation history, keeping the link to the chairman's name - who already has his own Wikipedia page.
I hope this now satisfies your standards. SunSetter (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
SunSetter (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
11:14PST, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Sausalitoarchitect
Thank you for reviewing my page on Architect Violeta Autumn. To establish notability I have added more references to buildings she designed, one that won an award and several that were published. I also made references to her role as a planner and elected commissioner in a Bay Area town and how she had a significant impact. Is it getting better? Sausalitoarchitect Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 20:28:38, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Kryst.Meloy
- Kryst.Meloy (talk · contribs)
Hi there! Thank you so much for the feedback. I understand that you are looking for verification of notability and am confused as to why you do not find the references to the New York Time article, the numerous appearances on a a well-known variety showed broadcasted by CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network), and the newspaper article Kentucky New Era. I have read the guidelines for establishing notability and am not sure how we are not proving notability. Is a matter of how I present the information, or are you needing different proof?
Your further input would be much appreciated.
Thank you so much, Kryst.Meloy (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2017 (UTC)Kryst
Kryst.Meloy (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
20:54:44, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Benthesoccerguy
Hi there - thanks for taking the time to review. You commented that my subject did not have enough notability. Can you inform me how many sources, in general, you look for? I had submitted 6 different links to high quality publications (Bloomberg, HuffPo, etc). Any help would be much appreciated!
Request on 21:22:41, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Kimasivdem
- Kimasivdem (talk · contribs)
Shawn storm is a jamaican dancehall reggae artist is is known so why does it keep declining what am i missing?
Kimasivdem (talk) 21:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
21:43:50, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Katherine.Holt
Thanks for the suggestion. I updated my page submission so it now has the same outside reference from a major independent news source used by the approved page for the Frederick Jackson Turner Award. Katherine.Holt (talk) 21:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Review of submission by RattleTap
Dear SwisterTwister, most respectfully I request your help with this article... I have helped many actors, musicians, authors and other notable people establish their first wikipedia articles.
I'm failing to understand why Michael Devin is not notable, or seems to be not notable. He's got a multitude of professional editorial from all kinds of music industry magazines, including Rolling Stones.
His proposal was even featured in People magazine. He's got millions of fans. His photo was taken by a woman in Italy who needed a press pass to get close to him to get his photo. If that's not notable, what is?!
Is there perhaps some kind of promotional material that needs to be omitted? To make it more "wiki-ish? I would be happy to do further editing... if you can suggest a comment please.
Best, Rattletap Rattletap (talk) 04:06, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Jonathan Lopes
Hello SwisterTwister. Thank you so much for commenting on my first article, Draft:Jonathan Lopes! To answer your question: a few of Jonathan Lopes's artwork, such as his large rendition of the actual museum built for the 100th anniversary, are displayed permanently at the museum. He also currently has pieces exhibited in one of their non-permanent exhibits Thank you for helping me.
Cleveman2020 (talk) 15:26, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing my submission
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Hi there, Thanks for reviewing my submission . Can you please share some mistakes i have done so that next time it can be approved by reviewers.
Regards Adesh Kumar (talk) 17:09, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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Windwatertrue (talk) 17:19, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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18:06:50, 27 January 2017 review of submission by Carrie at The Fischer Group
Thanks for reviewing our article, I really appreciate it. I want to update the article so that it meets guidelines, but wanted to know which portion specifically doesn't conform to the guidelines so I can work with that. From what I can tell, the article if not very different from the following (in words / scope) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M/I_Homes or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulteGroup.
Fischer is in the same group as those two homebuilders (and many others already included in Wikipedia) and being in the top 50 in the nation (something that M/I mentions in their article as well) I would think that content is noteworthy as well.
The remainder of the article just lists out the areas of business (where they do business) as well as a small amount of history (founder etc...) for the company (something I see the other Homebuilders do as well.)
If you could give me a little more feedback on what is different from my article and those above (as initial examples) I would appreciate it so I can make the needed changes.
Thanks! I look forward to your help / further comments on the differences.