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    05:10:36, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Abic1991


    I have included news articles from cyclingnews.com and cyclingtips.com, both of which are major sports news outlets. Are these sufficiently important outlets? If so, I can include more references from different articles on these sites

    05:34:00, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Alexhaddad91


    Andrew Rothschild has invented the genre bluestronica. There is no published music that falls in this genre of bluestronica. Andrew Rothschild's music does not fit the blues, or electronica genre. Hence he has created a new genre. No artist has claimed their music to be apart of this genre. He has elements of both in his music. The sources are legitimate. This is not a scientific matter, he is an artist and his artwork has received notable attention.

    13:22:24, 16 January 2017 review of submission by SHBCARE


    Several new good citations, and more information was added to the draft by user SHBCARE; and I've made some tone and MOS changes. -- Jeandré, 2017-01-16t13:22z

    E.g. this Sydney Morning Herald article. -- Jeandré, 2017-01-16t13:36z

    20:08:55, 16 January 2017 review of submission by 2601:681:4700:399C:3960:7026:53E9:AD9C


    I was researching this company for work and was surprised that they didn't have an article in wikipedia. I wanted to know who they were and what their basic business model was. I had to go to an external source to find this. I thought it would be useful to have this info in wikipedia. I don't work for them, I don't have a vested interest in their success or failure, I just found it annoying that this info wasn't available here, and wanted to fix that.

    17:42:21, 17 January 2017 review of submission by Travish212


    Thank you for your review of my draft. I have been through way too many drafts, re-writes, and deletions for this page. It has been shortened, condensed, and as many sources as are available have been cited. I have read all of the articles that have been linked. There are no other sources available on the internet, as it is a small company. There are no opinions reflected in the draft, only basic facts. I don't see how this can be changed any more. This latest draft is even a re-write from one of your moderators. Please advise.

    21:27:43, 17 January 2017 review of submission by 86.142.251.238


    Appreciate the comment regarding notability, however surely an amateur gym which produces a national finalist every five years; has a host of professional boxers at its platform and trained a world heavyweight contender is defined with some element of notability? References, both past and present, throughout the history of this establishment highlight its significance?

    I'd very much appreciate your feedback as to how I can make this article more robust.

    19:27:33, 18 January 2017 review of submission by 84.222.43.99



    Dear SwisterTwister, after your suggestions on 28th december 2017 about Enzo Minarelli draft, I have been working about and I have submitted a new draft following what you  wrote, I think now it works, I will be very happy to know your opinion, with my best

    22:12:40, 18 January 2017 review of submission by 124.157.106.97



    Hello SwisterTwister, I understand your point of view and the publishing rules on Wikipedia. Really, I do! The reason I decided to send the article in Wikipedia (even it doesn't respect the rules) is because Ezi Car Rental is become the first 100% Kiwi own rental company in New Zealand. New Zealand is a small country. References are not like in Europe (where I come from) or another big country in the World. With the current rules of publication only the big companies can be on Wikipedia. Is it really the most relevant point of view for an online encyclopedia? I could be wrong but I don't think so. It is not an argumentation for publishing the article about Ezi Car Rental. Your decision respect the rules. It is just my point of view about this. Now, I will wait until someone else decide that Ezi Car Rental is enough relevant to be on Wikipedia. Thank you for your time and for your participation to Wikipedia. Jeremy

    22:33:57, 18 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy


    The band "The Hot Place" fits your guideline as, "an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." The founding member and guitarist of The Hot Place, Jeff Calder, is a notable musician who is also currently active in the band "The Swimming Pool Q's". The Swimming Pool Q's are a national band, and have been recognized in Rolling Stone magazine, their most recent album "1984-1986:The A&M Years" was a Rolling Stone "Reissue of the Year", picked by David Fricke, on page 32 of the December 19-Jan 2 2014 print magazine. The Swimming Pool Q's have had five national/international album releases, on the major labels A&M, Capitol, and Bar None. The singer and other founding member of The Hot Place, Lisa King has has been a member of notable band The Glenn Phillips band, who have released albums on Virgin and Sony Records. King also played keyboards with The Swimming Pool Q's from 2003-2006. The Hot Place features guest guitarist Richard Lloyd of the band "Television", another member of a prominent 1970's band, with historical releases on Elektra records. The Hot Place has been featured in print, in significant North American publications "Georgia Music Magazine", "Stomp and Stammer", and "Creative Loafing."

    23:02:39, 18 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy


    The Hot Place is directly connected to two major musical artists. One of its founding members is Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's, and guest artist Richard Lloyd of Television, who already have Wikipedia Pages. Could you please clarify how to substantiate that more? I did connect The Hot Place to The Swimming Pool Q's via internal Wikipedia linking. The sources cited, if read in detail, are more than just announcements, interviews, and mentions. They directly discuss how Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's and Richard Lloyd of Television are connected to and/or are members of the Atlanta band The Hot Place. Many of the album reviews and mentions of the band are in analog print media, though I have found several digital places where the band's members are verified and substantiated. Thank you for your help!

    This article in particular substantiates The Hot Place's history and verifies the notable musicians who are members. http://www.clatl.com/music/article/13080910/new-wavers-instudio-chemistry-ignites-the-hot-place. I'm not sure how this is not a substantial source. If you could clarify, I would so appreciate it! Thank you!

    01:31:05, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Jadis White


    Hi SisterTwister! Thanks for taking the time to have a look at the changes to the article... Just a quick question for clarification (so that I can get the next edit right): Is the problem that there are not enough external references? A bit confused, as the first reviewer indicated that the article was copied, so I removed all direct references to this (even though they were quoted/cited), but not that there weren't enough notable articles... Please let me know what I need to do to improve the article and have it accepted. Thanks again!

    02:55:39, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Frank Cianciullo



    Hi, I would respectfully appreciate a review. Melissa Del Pinto has been recognized as a Canadian artist by The National Gallery of Canada and her name was added to the “Government of Canada, Canadian Heritage Database of Canadian Artists”. I have added the link. In addition, to address the points used to refuse her submission, her paintings are in the collections of notable Canadian collectors. I added the name of Irwin and Claude Lande. Mr. Lande is a noted real-estate developer living in Westmount (Montreal).

    19:51:49, 19 January 2017 review of submission by Evelynivy


    I have worked on finding more sources for my citations. The first three reference citations, are from National, credible print and digital magazines, the state run publication "Georgia Music Magazine", and a newspaper which is owned by the Atlanta Journal and Constitution, "Creative Loafing." The References directly explain how The Hot Place contains two notable international musicians in its lineup, Jeff Calder of “The Swimming Pool Q's” and Richard Lloyd of “Television.” Especially notable is source #2, Georgia Music Magazine. This is a state-run print and digital publication. Source 1 and 3 are not merely announcements, they are also detailed articles which explain The Hot Place's debut, and the notable musicians that are involved in the historic project. I also added another source that I found this morning, “Arts Talk” on Blog Talk Radio, Episode #104 Lisa King. I have also looked at other Atlanta bands Wikipedia pages. Some of these are groups which are far less notable than The Hot Place, with no notable musicians involved, and cite less reliable sources. So, I'm curious as to why those articles were approved, and this one is being rejected. Please advise! My sources all verify the notable musicians involved in The Hot Place.

    Added another cited source, from "The Recoup" magazine, by Joseph Kyle, in which Jeff Calder directly speaks about being a member and producer of The Hot Place band, with musician Lisa King. https://therecoup.com/2014/04/21/swimming-pool-qs-working-at-the-nut-factory/. The article quotes Jeff Calder of The Swimming Pool Q's, "We have about 2/3 of a new album mixed, and a few basic tracks standing by in the queue, waiting to be finished. I’ve co-produced them with Tim Delaney, a talented Atlanta musician and engineer we’ve worked with as far back as Royal Academy. It certainly helps that I’m friends with a number of great recording engineers, many of whom I was fortunate to be associated with at Atlanta’s legendary Southern Tracks studio, which I helped to manage for many years and where I was on the periphery of what seems like a hundred major rock albums produced by Brendan O’Brien.I like doing new things, having recently produced and played on an album by The Hot Place, Lisa King’s band based in Atlanta. It’s a pretty cool record that has a song called “Saturn Moved” on which Richard Lloyd of Television unleashes a wild solo."

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    02:12:43, 22 January 2017 review of submission by 63.92.245.105



    we are requesting a review because the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jonathan_Aldridge page has great sources and the subject is notable

    Benny Castillo managed the subject and his page has been approved.

    Aldridge is just as notable as Castillo and should be approved

    06:35:43, 23 January 2017 review of submission by Simonetech


    Hi SwisterTwiser,

    We are contacting you because you have raised query regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sanjeev_Sharma page.

    We would like to let you know that he is a famous personality that you can easily review from https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Sanjeev+Sharma&oq=Sanjeev+Sharma&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2j0l2j69i59.322j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&safe=active&q=Sanjeev+Sharma+Actor link.

    I would like you to guide us to make it live.

    Looking forward to your reply.

    Regards, Simone.

    18:14:28, 23 January 2017 review of submission by Skire913


    I have resubmitted the article to incorporate all the changes suggested by yourself and other Wikipedia reviewers. I have made substantial changes throughout the document to get rid of any extraneous or unnecessary language, with the effect of streamlining the article. The article now only contains direct and informative language with no self-promotional or journal-like language. I believe you will find the changes I have made to be much more in line with a Wikipedia article.

    00:07:20, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Hoovbacca


    Obviously trying very hard to conform this to meet the criteria, but wanted to clarify what was meant by focusing on all additional major news, there is a video interview from CNN, but most of the stories tend to refer mostly back to the Chicago Facebook page that I mentioned as a primary source, which to me makes the additional sources a bit moot, but I am willing to do what is needed to get this thing done :) Any further guidance/advice you can offer would be extremely appricated...thanks for the fast review!

    07:11:07, 24 January 2017 review of submission by MJHAB


    Hello SwisterTwister , may i know what part you saw as advertising or not notable in order for me to re-write the article or try to find more notable sources.

    I just saw the comments and trying to get more notable sources in order to back my article, however i have one question, the company is called Transmed however i couldn't use this name because some has redirected this name to Trans-Mediterranean Pipeline , could this be reason for you not finding any notable source online, since the search should be for Transmed and not Transmed holding? MJHAB (talk) 07:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello SwisterTwister , sorry to bother you again, but on Wiki help chat they advised me to re-ask you about what exactly are the sources that you didn't see notable. Especially that the sources you provided mainly covers foreign companies and not Lebanese. Thank you MJHAB (talk) 08:54, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    08:18:54, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Dignan00


    Thank you for your time. Rene Moreno meets the notability requirements when you look at it from the angle that he is a very significant person with Down syndrome. That's key here. His documentary is commonplace in collegiate special education curriculums across the country, and has been for 17 years. Up Syndrome has been on Netflix, Hulu amongst many other major streaming outlets for many years. His movies have been the subject of reviews in major trades such as Daily Variety (which is referenced), and he has won a very prestigious award from the National Down Syndrome Congress of the USA (also referenced), which is one of the largest organizations to promote the awareness of Down syndrome that exists in the world today. I think when you look at this person with the correct angle you will understand that he is indeed notable and worthy of inclusion.

    Request on 09:11:04, 24 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Berenice at John Cabot University


    Dear SwisterTwister, thank you for reviewing the article. The current article about John Cabot University contains very little information so I was hoping that I could submit a new one. Is there perhaps another place to submit an entire article for consideration? I would appreciate any advice you could give me since I have received a lot of conflicting information over the past year. Kind regards, Berenice at John Cabot University (talk) 09:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC) Berenice at John Cabot University (talk) 09:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    10:01:14, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Rakanishu666


    Hi there Swister, this now has everything asked for. If you are not from Australia you may not be aware how notable these references are/ biggest papers in the whole country and our TV BBC/NBC. thanks again for looking.

    Request on 10:30:23, 24 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Bhargav-504



    I received message like Not satisfying WP:POLITICIAN. Please help me Bhargav-504 (talk) 10:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    Bhargav-504 (talk) 10:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    15:39:12, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Terry Winston


    hey this is my first time creating a wiki page but the information is true how can i validate these sources ?

    16:29:55, 24 January 2017 review of submission by Sean Pollock



    Hi please can i create this page ? i can add it in a more Wiki style?

    16:35:45, 24 January 2017 review of submission by M.Renae


    Hi, I made a few more edits to the sources on the Simply Gluten Free Magazine page. Could you please re-review?

    Also, if it's still not up to par with the standards, perhaps you could help me find additional sources or tell me which of the sources I've included are good and which are not sufficient. To be honest, there are not very many news media outlets or independent news sources that write articles about magazines in general, unless that magazine hits an all-time record for something, is part of some controversy, is founded by a big-name celebrity like Oprah or Rachael Ray, or is bought or sold by another media company. I've been looking at other publications' Wikipedia pages to see what kinds of sources they use and I'm not seeing that high-quality of sources. I looked at VegNews, which has sources that aren't what I'd consider "independent news sources" and Naked Food Magazine has no sources listed at all. Also, I was looking at Whole Foods Magazine's Wikipedia page and it has 5 sources, 3 of which are its own website and 1 comes up as a 404 error and the other is just a library website that has no mention of the magazine. The sources I've provided for Simply Gluten Free Magazine's page are far superior to the sources in any of these 3 other magazines' pages that were approved by the moderators of Wikipedia, so I would like the page to please be reconsidered.

    Thank you, M.Renae (talk) 16:35, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    18:10:15, 24 January 2017 review of submission by 129.16.140.95


    Please be more specific as to what should be improved. The sources are all reliable and independent of the subject. The amount of, the breadth and the character of the sources, as well as the notable award winners proof that the article is about a notable subject. So if this is not enough, please be specific about what should be improved.

    18:52:40, 24 January 2017 review of submission by NicoleforSS


    To whom it may concern,

    I am unsure as to why these sources don't qualify as "reputable"? As one of the leading interior designers in the united states who has contributed to his field in such a reputable way, Scott Salvator's page should really be included. The history of interior design becoming a true art form was highly shaped by Mr. Salvator, so please advise as to how the page should be edited for acceptance.

    Thank you, Nicole M Farkas

    I happened to see this discussion, and took a look at Draft:Scott Salvator. It is possible that we should have an article on this designer, given this NY Times article from 2012 "In Defense of the Decorator". But the current state of the material does not look usable for Wikipedia -- it is too promotional and includes excessive detail about Salvator's personal history. Within the first 60 seconds, an experienced Wikipedian would take out 'is recognized as one of the country’s premier designers' from the opening sentence. If you want to know how to write this, try to find a NY Times reported obituary of a designer and see how it's done (the tone and level of detail). One problem is that the Times articles where Salvator is mentioned often use a light-hearted gossipy tone (as in the social pages) and it doesn't give much to work from. EdJohnston (talk) 20:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    06:18:26, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Riddhi1981


    Hello I want to know why my submission has been rejected please? Please let me the solutions.

    07:03:34, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Robfarago


    Thank you for your feedback. This is my first article. I have only ever made minor contributions to other article over the last 10 years or so. Before I wrote this article I read the pages that talk about notability and also needing independent credible sources from news/media publishers who have editors etc.. I believe the page I have drafted has merit based on the guidelines. The development of renewable energy in Australia has been significantly influenced by not for profit and grass roots groups such as Local Power. Not sure if you had a chance to read/view many of the references and if you did perhaps you are not familiar with the Australian media organisations in the references?

    The TV coverage of this community initiative was made by the ABC TV network and the TEN TV network. The Australian ABC is a highly credible news organisation of journalistic integrity spanning radio, TV and online. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation The Australian TEN TV network is one of our 3 commercial news networks and comparable to perhaps NBC or CBS in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Ten Both of these TV broadcast news services thought this was a newsworthy community initiative which had not been done before. The youtube clips are recordings of the prime time TV news article which were broadcast to audiences of over 1 million people each.

    Similarly the ATA is a very credible member based organisation and magazine publisher of ReNew magazine, which has been publishing since 1980 and is not up to it's 138th quarterly magazine https://www.ata.org.au/who/history They chose to write a feature article about the Local Power project because it was something new and novel.

    Finally the City South News is a local community newspaper and part of the News Corporation stable of newspapers. While I am not a big fan or Rupert Murdoch (Fox News yuk!) he did get his starts running newspapers in Australia This chain of local papers are said to have 1 million readers weekly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quest_Community_Newspapers

    I would humbly ask you to take a closer look at the references, taking into account the above information about independence, and please reconsider this rejection.

    thank you.

    10:20:04, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Westy14


    Request on 16:06:48, 25 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Eragonscout


    Thank you for reviewing my article.

    Eragonscout (talk) 16:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    16:51:03, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Russianradio



    Thanks for you review! These are the references from Russian books. Can they be considered as external links? Thank you.

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Po22DQAAQBAJ&pg=PT381&dq=%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0+%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F+%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiP09ba2t3RAhWKOiYKHXzDDqQQ6AEIRzAG#v=onepage&q=%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0%20%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F%20%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0&f=false

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9zW4BwAAQBAJ&pg=PT600&dq=%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0+%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F+%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiP09ba2t3RAhWKOiYKHXzDDqQQ6AEIVTAI#v=onepage&q=%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0%20%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F%20%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0&f=false

    17:03:27, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Mvavz


    Hi SwisterTwister, thanks first of all for the quick review of the Cook & Becker page I'm drafting. I'm not requesting a re-review just yet, but I'd like to know what you mean by "major independent news". The sources I've listed are also referenced in many other game (related) wiki articles, and two of them are long form editorial articles. Are you saying they're not independent enough, not major enough, or both?

    Thanks in advance for clarifying!Mvavz (talk) 17:03, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Whoops!

    I reverted a creator removed speedy from a recent draft you tagged, then unreverted because I noticed it was a draft but wanted to let you know that I've actually retagged it as G12 because it had pretty significant copyvios. Sorry for any confusion! Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Min-On resubmission

    Hope this works.Stgrlee16 (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 00:40:07, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Oddjob84


    I am aware the article Pirates 4-D already exists. If you look at it, you will see it runs less than a quarter page, and has two working references. My revision runs a page and a half with 41 references. I was simply trying to forstall the possibility of an edit war, and get some input, as this is my first major edit. So, never mind. I will just drop it in the article, and see what happens. Oddjob84 (talk) 00:40, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Oddjob84 (talk) 00:40, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    05:09:40, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Brn odisha


    Please check the Government of India Website http://www.padmaawards.gov.in/PDFS/PadmaAwards-2017_25012017.pdf and http://www.sangeetnatak.gov.in/sna/Awardees.php?section=aa

    Please let me know what else do I need to add.

    Request on 11:07:07, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by H.basold


    Hi, I am unsure what "major independent news" means in this case. As the article is about an academic award, it will mostly be covered by people who are interested in that specific field. There is some third party coverage, however:

    Would any of this or a combination suffice to justify the article?

    Best, H.basold (talk) 11:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Speedy deletion declined: Dedeman Hotels

    Hello SwisterTwister. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Dedeman Hotels, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 is not about notability. Speedy shouldn't be used when multiple established users already disagreed with deletion. Use AfD instead. Thank you. SoWhy 11:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 12:54:38, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AmyPetit


    Dear SwisterTwister,

    You refused my page about Crowdyhouse a first time as you mentioned I did not add enough relevant sources to it. I added 3 paragraphs from what I found on internet, added references from Wired or even a External link from the Foreign and Commonwealth office of the United Kingdom which I think reveals something about the notability of the company. For this reason I don't understand your comment ("Still nothing had changed and it's still violating our policy WP:Wikipedia is not a business listing because this is simply what they would advertise to clients."). Could you please explain me in what way these references are not good enough? It is not about advertising but about trying to understand Wikipedia in order to be able to bring better contributions to the website.

    Kind regards,

    AmyPetit (talk) 12:54, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    14:39:58, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Mexcorp1


    The references site politics nigeria as a source of information. pls state in simple terms what makes a valid reference..please. thanks

    15:06:43, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Beckcurran


    Hello, the article was rejected as it did not meet the WP:PROF#Criteria but the subject of the article is not a professor or academic, she is an author and business woman and does meet the WP:BIO#Criteria. (as she has received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject).

    I have now edited the article, is this acceptable now? Thanks for your help. Beckcurran (talk) 15:06, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 16:07:34, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by SunSetter


    Thank you for reviewing. To establish notability, I have added news coverage of Carbon Tracker's reports by major, independent news outlets - Bloomberg, Financial Times, The Guardian, Forbes, Reuters. That organisations of this caliber devote standalone articles to the individual reports of a think-tank is, I believe, sufficient proof of relevance. I have cut down on the organisation history, keeping the link to the chairman's name - who already has his own Wikipedia page.

    I hope this now satisfies your standards. SunSetter (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    SunSetter (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    11:14PST, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Sausalitoarchitect

    Thank you for reviewing my page on Architect Violeta Autumn. To establish notability I have added more references to buildings she designed, one that won an award and several that were published. I also made references to her role as a planner and elected commissioner in a Bay Area town and how she had a significant impact. Is it getting better? Sausalitoarchitect Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 20:28:38, 26 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Kryst.Meloy


    Hi there! Thank you so much for the feedback. I understand that you are looking for verification of notability and am confused as to why you do not find the references to the New York Time article, the numerous appearances on a a well-known variety showed broadcasted by CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network), and the newspaper article Kentucky New Era. I have read the guidelines for establishing notability and am not sure how we are not proving notability. Is a matter of how I present the information, or are you needing different proof?

    Your further input would be much appreciated.

    Thank you so much, Kryst.Meloy (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2017 (UTC)Kryst[reply]


    Kryst.Meloy (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    21:43:50, 26 January 2017 review of submission by Katherine.Holt



    Thanks for the suggestion. I updated my page submission so it now has the same outside reference from a major independent news source used by the approved page for the Frederick Jackson Turner Award. Katherine.Holt (talk) 21:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Review of submission by RattleTap

    Draft:Michael_Devin

    Dear SwisterTwister, most respectfully I request your help with this article... I have helped many actors, musicians, authors and other notable people establish their first wikipedia articles.

    I'm failing to understand why Michael Devin is not notable, or seems to be not notable. He's got a multitude of professional editorial from all kinds of music industry magazines, including Rolling Stones.

    His proposal was even featured in People magazine. He's got millions of fans. His photo was taken by a woman in Italy who needed a press pass to get close to him to get his photo. If that's not notable, what is?!

    Is there perhaps some kind of promotional material that needs to be omitted? To make it more "wiki-ish? I would be happy to do further editing... if you can suggest a comment please.

    Best, Rattletap Rattletap (talk) 04:06, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Rattletap (talk) 21:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC) Dear SwisterTwister - I Should add for your consideration - Whitesnake of which this man is a member, is a multi platinum band that has had singles that made the top #1 in USA for many years in the 1990's. Not so long ago. They are a VERY accomplished band and still extremely popular. And I made the revisions per your request and took out the more frivolous references.[reply]

    Thanks for reviewing my submission

    Trophy :-)
    Hi there, Thanks for reviewing my submission . Can you please share some mistakes i have done so that next time it can be approved by reviewers.

    Regards 

    Adesh Kumar (talk) 17:09, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

    Request on 17:19:54, 27 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Windwatertrue



    Windwatertrue (talk) 17:19, 27 January 2017 (UTC) [1] [2][reply]

    References

    1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Longboat
    2. ^ https://www.amazon.ca/Man-Who-Faster-Than-Everyone/dp/0887765076

    18:06:50, 27 January 2017 review of submission by Carrie at The Fischer Group


    Thanks for reviewing our article, I really appreciate it. I want to update the article so that it meets guidelines, but wanted to know which portion specifically doesn't conform to the guidelines so I can work with that. From what I can tell, the article if not very different from the following (in words / scope) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M/I_Homes or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulteGroup.

    Fischer is in the same group as those two homebuilders (and many others already included in Wikipedia) and being in the top 50 in the nation (something that M/I mentions in their article as well) I would think that content is noteworthy as well.

    The remainder of the article just lists out the areas of business (where they do business) as well as a small amount of history (founder etc...) for the company (something I see the other Homebuilders do as well.)

    If you could give me a little more feedback on what is different from my article and those above (as initial examples) I would appreciate it so I can make the needed changes.

    Thanks! I look forward to your help / further comments on the differences.

    A barnstar for you!

    The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
    For your efforts to combat the unending flood of spam on Wikipedia. Cerebellum (talk) 22:13, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hey there Swister, I've disagreed with you on a couple deletion discussions in the past few months but I just wanted to take a second to let you know how much I appreciate your work. Every time I go to AfC, I see your name on tons of previous reviews and it's scary to think what the AfC backlog would look like without you. I also like your innovative way of dealing with problematic re-submitters by taking them to MfD. I don't know how you do it all, but keep up the good work! --Cerebellum (talk) 22:13, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    03:54:50, 29 January 2017 review of submission by Mhplayme1


    Hi SwisterTwister:

    Can you give me a little more specific advice on this rejection? Have I mis-formatted or not provided enough reference info? Do I need to send you attachments with the source references? Do we need more references? Stronger references? Art Hellyer was one of the top two highest rated radio personalities in the 1950s in the Chicago area, #1 on radio in Chicago three times during that period (some say 4 times but I'm still checking on a source for that). He achieved #1 ratings success again in the 1960s on WLS radio in Chicago. He won a national Disk Jockey of the Year award.

    Or, does some of my text need re-writing for better clarity and emphasis?

    Here for your consideration are the reference quotes. I'm sorry if I incorrectly or incompletely formatted the references with this article, but here they are for your review:

    1. ""Chicago Tribune", Column by Eric Zorn, October 4, 1982, Section 3, P.1 and P.4: Headline: "Two stars of past find future" - "Not even a year ago, the lights were about to go out on Eddie Hubbard and Art Hellyer, two legendary giants in the history of Chicago radio: Hellyer, three times the No. 1 jock on different local stations, network TV personality and interviewer of U.S. Presidents, had been reduced to commercial spot work.." Also, "Hellyer, who worked at every major station in Chicago during his prime and rose to the top of the ratings at WCFL, WBBM-AM and WLS-FM .."

    2. The Deejays" - Author Arnold Passman - The MacMillan Company, 866 Third Avenue, New York, NY 10022(1971) - Library of Congress Number: 71-119127Pages 135, 193, 198-199 pp. 192-193 - "But there were other disembodied illusion-mongers at work. Less concerned with the music, the powerful morning comic, armed with a tape recorder, was in the advance guard in adding what was termed "The Third Man" theme to radio. The production of sound effects and voice tracks contributed to a bewildering pattern on the shows of Bob and Ray, Klavan and Finch, Ted Brown and the Redhead (New York), Carl DeSuze (Boston), Ernie Kovacs (Philadelphia), Rege Cordic (Pittsburgh), Jonathan Winters (Dayton), Soupy Heinz (Cincinnati and Cleveland), Bob Crane (Bridgeport and Hollywood), Bob Arbogast and Art Hellyer (Chicago), Dick Whittinghill (Los Angeles), Don Sherwood (San Francisco), and J. Akuhead Pupule (Honolulu). Some became local legends, but few found success in television."

    3. "The Encyclopedia of Chicago" University of Chicago Press - Page 241 - "The Encyclopedia of Chicago", published 2004 by University of Chicago Press: "The pre-eminent disc jockey of the 1950s, WIND's Howard Miller, commanded the country's largest local audience and was described by Time Magazine as the nation's biggest single influence on record sales. Miller's principal rival was the more rambunctious Art Hellyer who broadcast his Morning Madcap show on WCFL."

    4. WCFL: Chicago's Voice of Labor 1926 - 1978, author Nathan Godfried, University of Illinois Press, Urbana, IL and Chicago, 1997, isbn 0-252-02287-4 390 pp pp 258-259: "Art Hellyer became a popular Chicago disc jockey during the fifties. Combining wit, charm, and an amazing sense of humor, Hellyer created an alive, bubbling two hours of daily entertainment. Perhaps his best comedic moment came when he and an aide "covered" the 1956 Democratic National Convention from a broadcasting booth that was obviously the men's room."

    5. * "The Deejays" - Author Arnold Passman - The MacMillan Company, 866 Third Avenue, New York, NY 10022(1971) - Library of Congress Number: 71-119127Pages 135, 193, 198-199

    pp. 198-199 - "A Hogan Hero of the mid-fifties, who also said he was offered the Story post, was a Chicago joculator named Art Hellyer, who gave Howard Miller a good run over WCFL. From 1952 to 1957, Hellyer was given free reign by general manager Marty Hogan, who had begun as an announcer with WCFL and compared to the run-of-the-mill station head, had to be called courageous. Hellyer also acknowledged the incalculable assistance of a nimble partner, as has Jonathan Winters and Soupy Sales. This was his record turner, an AFM member a cut above the norm named Lenny Kaye, whom Hellyer dubbed "Dr. K, TT" (Transcription Technician). "He was the greatest talent I have ever known," said Hellyer. "I paid him out of my own pocket above what he was paid by the station because he made me. It was a combination on his part of total involvement, photographic memory, and an anticipation of what I would do. We saw each other for just those three hours a day, and it was just remarkable. We had no idea of what was going to happen until I sat down at the mike." At one point in their spree, which was truly cacophonous, it was decided to send Hellyer and Kaye to New York for a month in a talent swap with WINS's Bob and Ray. But it was called off. "They had Bob and Ray and eleven other people," said Hellyer. "It was just me and Lenny." The pair's greatest moment probably came when they "covered" the 1956 Democratic National Convention from a broadcasting booth that was obviously in the men's room. Hellyer pleaded daily for access to the convention and was finally "granted" the inside privilege. It included such tongue-in-cheek "pluses" as a "one-way mirror," "voting booths," etc., with inserted tracks of toilets flushing. The next year, Hellyer was fired. "It came at a time," said Hellyer, who like many a fiercely witty morning man said nobody had had an influence on him, "when Howard Miller and I were jockeying for the 1-2 position in the morning. One of my sponsors, the First National Bank, displayed a million dollars at Navy Pier, where I was doing my morning show. I said I thought it was wrong because it helped to build avarice and greed in us. It bugged just one man in an ad agency and WCFL was forced into canning me. But the First has sponsored me since then."

    6. * "Valley Voices: A Chicago Radio History" - Author John Russell Ghrist - Published by Crossroads Communications, P.O. Box 7, Carpentersville, IL 60110-0007 - Library of Congress Catalog No. 96-83079 / ISBN Number: 0-916445-42-9 John Russell Ghrist (1992) - Pages 38,43,49,68,74,80-87,161,198,292,354,378,393,511

    p.38 - "Freelancers Art Hellyer and Bill O'Connor were the only two non-staffers that manager Jules Herbuveaux approved to be on the air at WMAQ. Both had to pass strict NBC auditions." "Hellyer remembers that Hugh Downs did the news for him on his program in the mid 1950s. He told Art one weekend, "I'm going to New York to do the Home Show with Arlene Francis. I"ll be back in a week." Downs was back in the week to clean out his desk and start a new career with the NBC network in New York."

    p. 43 - "Two other famous radio personalities (on WBBM-AM radio) were Paul Gibson and Art Hellyer. Hellyer was the announcer for Gibson's show. On one occasion Art asked Gibson, who had been married several times, if he had seen him the other night in a restaurant. "Were you with wife number three at table number 2? Or was it wife number one at table number 7?" The routine went on and on, infuriating Gibson. Paul, who normally did his entire program from a couple of note cards, spent the next hour on the air blasting Hellyer."

    I just looked up the Wikipedia article on Wally Phillips. Wally was brought to Chicago to copy Art's radio format. He shadowed Art during Art's shows then adopted Art's imaginative radio ideas to use on his own show which then competed with Art. 10 of the 11 references in Wally's Wikipedia article were published at his death. Art is still living, so he doesn't have these type of references yet -- I would hope that you could see that Art's notability is closely comparable Wally's, with Art's major impact being in 1950s radio and Wally's commercial success being mostly in the 1960s.

    I look forward to hearing back from you. Thank you again,

    Mike H. Mhplayme1 (talk) 03:54, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    16:33:53, 29 January 2017 review of submission - Draft:Jiří Walker Procházka

    Dear SwisterTwister, I was looking forward to your advice. But instead I found my plea in an archive of inactive discussions. It sort of made me think over it and I try to remind you of the problem by copying the text from inactive to the "active" zone. If it would be of some use to you, I think, that supporting statements coud be obtained from recognised authors like Ondřej Neff, Josef Nesvadba, Vilma Kadlečková and Miroslav Žamboch. Jaroslav Velinský would support JWP too, but he died on 19/2/2012. Alas, the last recognised - Ludvík Souček - did not meet JWP and died in 1978. By the way - there is no info in Czech wikipedia on SwisterTwister, nothing was found in the Czech wiki_dictionary as well. Does it make you unreliable? I think that the problem is only in the language barrier and it should open a bit for a really oustanding author and his work. --14/1/2017--Dear SwisterTwister, I think I have a problem with the fact that the 3 cited works on Czech SF are published and recognized as reliable only here in Czech Republic. One of them was written by O. Neff, who is recognised in en-wikipedia. But this book is in Czech too. You see, JWP writes SF in Czech and most info on him is in Czech again. So people in the English SF world scarsely know of him. I wanted to get some short info in the English speaking version of Wikipedia to break this vicious circle. I created a stub and was gradually forced to expand it. Now I got to the dead end, if you have no advice for me in this. I reckon that the info on JWP will find his way through personal contacts in the end. Ondřej Neff, Josef Nesvadba, Vilma Kadlečková, Miroslav Žamboch, Jaroslav Velinský, Ludvík Souček they all "made it" on similar terms. Maybe the problem is some trivia in my approach and it can be cured. Looking forward to your reply... Erempari (talk) 16:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC) Erempari (talk) 14:33, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    16:22:53, 29 January 2017 review of submission by Carrie at The Fischer Group


    Ok, that makes sense. So what updates do I need to make to it for it to meet the new company guidelines? I don't see any specifics on that which we have not already covered here? I'm specifically looking for "doing this would make it meet the new guidelines" kind of information.

    I've re-read the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Companies/Guidelines and it appears from what I can see there that the article, in its current state covers the areas mentioned.

    Again, as far as companies go, and looking at the other homebuilders (as well as other companies) in the space, Fischer is certainly in line with those which are included. (They have been in the top 50 home builders for many years now, they operate in multiple states nationwide, they have plenty of press on them, they are are one of the big builders for the St. Jude's dream home giveaway (which benefits less fortunate people), and the list goes on.

    When you get time, let me know what I can do in the way of edits to help get this article revised and into the article space. I appreciate the info so far. It is helpful.

    Thanks.

    ANI discussion

    Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding your lack of notification of users when their pages have been nominated for deletion. The thread can be found here. Primefac (talk) 18:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, thanks for your input on my Laurence Shames article. He was only indirectly referenced on Wikipedia to the Lost Experience page. I've added multiple major book reviews showing the author is a major author and clearly notable. There are now four book reviews from the New York Times, one or two from the Los Angeles Times, Variety, Publishers Weekly, Kirkus Reviews and info from Random House's site. This is much more authority than almost any author article I've seen so I can't imagine the article now satisfies even the toughest critic. Thanks so much. Gelo962 (talk) 22:36, 29 January 2017 (UTC)Gelo862[reply]

    Avoid all the drama, just notify about speedy deletions

    Hi SwisterTwister, it's Pete AU aka Shirt58 here.
    You and I have quite literally worked for years together at WP:NPP.
    It's becoming quite clear that you may well be forced to notify editors about speedy deletions and so on. Please do consider voluntarily agreeing to notifications. Your work on the Wikipedia project is far too important than, well, whatever your reasons are for not notifying.
    Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:27, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    14:27:34, 30 January 2017 review of submission by Chadyrm


    Hello, first, thanks for taking time to being a Wikipedia curator.

    There are 6 main sources cited, that are serious sources (in the Middle-East, and Lebanon). Text publications are rarely digitized, but I could recollect printed articles (Can/should we add them as references and provide scanned proof? What is the procedure for such cases).

    The company had a social impact, which is why it is covered. As you might have now noticed, the digital ecosystem is nearly non-existent in this region, and having publicly accessible digital manufacturing service shop with industrial 3D printers in Lebanon is a big step. Not to mention the creation of new 3D printing materials! (2 materials) and several machines.

    Additional projects may be appended: Rapidmanufactory has been invited to the St-Etienne Design Biennial this coming march to exhibit: https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/theobsessivedrafter/ . This would generate articles by "more known" media entities. A published book about manufacturing (especially digital fabrication), was created by the founder; An article in "L'Orient Le Jour", talks about it: https://www.lorientlejour.com/article/1030988/guillaume-credoz-et-son-robot.html

    Looking forward to your assistance in having this article published.

    Thank you, Chady

    Happy Lunar New Year!

    		 Happy Lunar New Year!

    Hello SwisterTwister,
    May you have success, prosperity, peace, love and good health on this Chinese New Year. Here's to another year of productive editing. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for this new year.

    Kind regards,
    Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:43, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    15:37:04, 30 January 2017 review of submission by L.schartner


    Dear SwisterTwister, thank you for your review and suggestions for improvement. You are absolutely right, the viennacontemporary header needs to be deleted (done).

    Regarding additional articles: I added an article from the NY Times from 2015: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/arts/international/vienna-looks-east-for-fine-art.html?_r=0

    But otherwise, I would like to argue that the most important English references are already included in the article (I guess I can’t add German publications where we have a lot of press, in all the major newspapers). I have included: Forbes, Vogue, and important publications from the artworld: Wallpaper Magazine, Blouin Artinfo, Artsy, Sotheby’s blog, The Art Newspaper, artnet News, Flash Art, artforum.com, Widewalls, Cultured Mag.

    Would that be fine for you?

    16:23:06, 30 January 2017 review of submission by Hamhaugh


    Hi there,

    many thanks for taking the time to review the page I created. I am new to Wikipedia so am finding my way through trial and error so would be grateful for any help to improve the chances of submission! I felt the subject worthy of an article, largely because of her role as ambassador for the Orange Tree theatre in London. The theatre is a theatre that produces new work of exceptional standard, most recently reviewed in Variety magazine Los Angeles, and acknowledged to be a forerunner in new writing. Heery was one of fourteen invited because they were considered to be 'leading figures in the Arts and beyond – who will champion the work of the Theatre.' She is also a member of the Davison/Tennant family who have a large fan base in the worldwide science fiction community, not only because of her work with Big Finish audio, but also because of her film work in the series The Tripods, and Life Force. Her son, David Tennant's step brother in law, Louis Davison, has just played Victor in Tim Burton's Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children made by Fox films. As an ambassador for theatre she is able to reach a wide audience through her body of work, regular TV work spanning twenty five years, and professional relationships within the literary world. Is any of this helpful as regards an edit?

    Best Hamhaugh.

    Request on 01:33:59, 31 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by GROOVEGURUS


    Hello, I am trying to create an updated English version of a Spanish wikipedia page. Can you please tell me the proper way to link to the existing Spanish language page? Original page: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Ministers his is for a noteworthy english language band Prime Ministers, originally from Ecuador, now operating from Miami FL. I do not know the original editor of that page, it was created long ago, and i'm being asked to create an english version. They have charted in MTV Latino, among other international accolades. Most of their source material (reviews, articles) are in Spanish. I am hesitant to created a stub article, as i understand these do not get as many views.

    Thanks, Ben User: GROOVEGURUS

    GROOVEGURUS (talk) 01:33, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Scott Neeson draft

    Hi SwisterTwister,

    Thank you for your further discussion about this draft. I am a little confused about your comments - "our policies still are questioning this Draft, as all business articles are because obvious PR that may be involved, regardless if intended or not. Overall, this is still not significant enough for independent notability in policy"

    I would appreciate some clarification, given that a) this article is about a person, not a business, and falls under the Notability (people) policy, and b) my COI has been openly stated, I have followed the COI guidelines, and a COI has no effect on the notability of a subject - the only mention of COI in the Notability (people) guideline refers to Wikipedians editing articles about themselves.

    For further clarification - if I submit this article for third party editing and provide a substantial list of secondary sources, and step back entirely from the process, can the notability then be established, or is it a separate issue? Would you suggest that this is the best step forward?

    Thank you again for your assistance. CallumLow (talk) 02:01, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 09:40:54, 31 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Andraradu2016


    Dear editorial team, could you please advice what kind of sources are significant enough to meet Wikipedia standards? Monocle or Archdaily or World Landcape Architect are all independent, prestigious media, and the articles we have linked in the drafts are their editorial content. ASLA who has recognized reSITE's work by 2016 Presidents Award, attributed the prize after a long nomination process and secret vote of the Committee of jurors. Some of the media links are in Czech language given the location of reSITE. But they are all independent. It would really help to have your explanation why these sources are not relevant or what is wrong with those. Thank you for your help! Andraradu

    Andraradu2016 (talk) 09:40, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    18:08:13, 31 January 2017 review of submission by Carosher1951


    All the references I supplied are independently verifiable. William Sherwood is now the only actor in the cast list of the film of the Girl on the Boat who is not cross-referenced on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_on_the_Boat_(film))

    Carosher1951 (talk) 18:08, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Re: John H. Falk page

    I've added 13 links to other Wikipedia articles in order to integrate it into the encyclopedia. Also, I linked another page to the article, which should make it no longer an orphan. Can I remove the box above the page now?

    Also, I can't figure out how to properly respond on this talk page, so that my responses look like the others. Please advise.

    Thanks,

    John Madera — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnmadera (talk • contribs) 18:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Warning for failure to notify user of deletion debate

    Hi SwisterTwister, I note you have added [[1]] without notifying User talk:MaeDarla. It is very important that you notify people about deletion debates. Particularly with inexperience people may will not know how to respond. I am not arguing against deletion, just warning about failure to notify people. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:08, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Custom Controls (UK)

    Just a friendly heads up on Custom Controls (UK). Normally I'd agree with going back to the redirect, but after the page move the redirect became implausible. If the page needs to go, the normal deletion routes are the way to go here (and I have no objection). Cheers!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 01:09, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Russell Reynolds Submission

    JCTH2015 (talk) 01:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC) Hello SwisterTwister, I'd appreciate further clarification on why my Wiki submission for Russell Reynolds was denied and moved for deletion. You state that there has been anything to satisfy Wikipedia policies; however, when comparing the citations and the content to a different wiki entry for a company in the same industry: [1] the citation quality and language/tone for the Russell Reynolds submission are very comparable. In fact the Russell Reynolds submission contains citations from many of the same sources listed in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Zehnder The citations from the Wall Street Journal are a good example.[reply]

    Heidrick and Struggles, another very similar firm, is also an approved Wikipedia submission with citations and language very similar to the Russell Reynolds submission: [2] . Using Egon Zehnder and Heidrick and Struggles Wikipedia entries as examples to model the Russell Reynolds citation after, since they are approved which means they satisfy Wikipedia policies, seemed to me like a good idea. Is that not the case, and if so, it would seem as if the approval process is very subjective and not based on any clearly defined standards.

    Here is your specific feedback:

    There was enough time in 3 reviews to at least give us the needed substance in a convincing article, the article itself has unchanged itself with still only keeping either clear-copied company advertising or advertised business announcements, all is sufficient for deletion.

    You mention that the submission was populated using marketing copy taken from elsewhere, if so, I would love to see the source material I used copied. Also mentioned was the timeline elapsed from the first entry until this most recent. I am not being paid to submit this information to Wikipedia - if that was the case, I most likely would have lost my job by now since indeed it has been quite some time. I did add additional text and 6 additional new citations from reputable sources.

    I am not trying to be difficult and am more than happy to additional content to this submission if you provide me with additional direction. This exercise is simply meant to be a way to learn my way around Wikipedia. I appreciate your help and guidance.

    Thanks, Jose User: JCTH2015

    JCTH2015 (talk) 01:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 02:53:00, 1 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Jcharlesberry


    Hi SwisterTwister, Can you give me some input on how to make this article suitable? It's my first one, as if you can't tell, and I would love some help! When you have some time I would really appreciate it. Jcharlesberry (talk) 02:54, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Jcharlesberry (talk) 02:53, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]



    OK, but you had mentioned trade publications. If an organization is not mentioned in publications like the New York Times or Wall Street Journal, etc., how can it create a Wikipedia entry? There are plenty of publications that mention this company, but many readers may not have heard of them. Also, are PDF's acceptable or do all sources need to be currently online?

    Thanks again!

    Request on 06:27:10, 1 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Drewzab


    Hi David. Thanks for reviewing my submission for the Daisygrinders. However, I do not understand how you deem my submission as not having substance and not being significant. Would you not deem a recording artist, signed by a subsidiary of a major record label not significant? Is not only the reference made to the band on the record labels website, but also independently published texts with ISBN numbers as supplied, not enough to satisfy the reliable sources guidelines? Is a band that produced a LP, numerous EPs and Singles, Video Clips, toured nationally, appeared at festivals and supported acts such as Smashing Pumpkins, Teenage Fanclub, Buffalo Tom and numerous other local and international artists, notable enough? I dont know what else I can provide to you to evidence my claims. I am also confused as I have seen other bands listed with only a few websites referenced to satisfy the reliable sources guidelines. This is what I have provided as citations for the article: http://www.halfacow.com.au/artists.php?page=artist_bio&artist=A008 https://www.discogs.com/search?type=all&q=The+Daisygrinders http://www.rarerecords.com.au/catalogsearch/result/index/?%3Fcat=&attribute_id=prodartist&dir=asc&limit=100&order=name&q=DAISYGRINDERS%2C+THE http://saturdaynighthutch.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/big-day-out-12693-sydney-showgrounds.html http://themusic.com.au/news/all/2016/2/5/adam-young-releases-new-solo-album-1454650531/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IsTW5GHCqM#t=53 Blunt, Bob (2001). Blunt - A Biased History Of Australian Rock (1 ed.). Victoria: Prowling Tiger Press. pp. 193,198. ISBN 0 9586647 5 7. Spencer, Chris (1996). Who's Who of Australian Rock (4th ed.). Victoria: The Five Mile Press. p. 88. ISBN 1 87597 150 5.

    Can you advise me which articles meet the rules for reliable sources and what else I will need to provide to meet the guidelines for admission to Wikipedia. Many thanks Drewzab (talk) 06:27, 1 February 2017 (UTC)Drewzab[reply]

    Drewzab (talk) 06:27, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 1 February 2017 for assistance on Draft:Huta Group edit.

    Hi SwisterTwister. Thanks for reviewing my page on Huta Group, I understand your viewpoint and request your help to point me towards some business listings that set the benchmark to be followed. Regarding the inclusion of "trade PR publications or local business PR webhosts", my article includes a lot of references from Middle Eastern news publications! As I am unclear on what you're referring to, I request you to give me some pointers.

    Much appreciated. Zubairs3994 (talk) 07:04, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 11:33:38, 1 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Human like you


    Hello, what exactly would you like to change in this article? Please don't come to me with further excuses. First it was major sources. I provided about a dozen sources from the defense industry. Now it is a claim of advertising? I do not work for or represent the company, for your information. Thank you. Human like you (talk) 11:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC) Human like you (talk) 11:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 1 February 2017 for assistance on Draft:Huta Group edit.

    Hi SwisterTwister. Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your help. I will edit the article to meet the mentioned criteria, while doing so, should I remove it from the Draftspace?

    Much appreciated. Zubairs3994 (talk) 13:28, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    16:45:49, 1 February 2017 review of submission by Hazelwhicher


    Hi there, I wasn't quite sure what you meant by 'merged to the local community's article' - could you clarify? I thought given the school's history and relationship to other wiki articles, that it would be a good candidate for a page of it's own - I don't understand why it's not notable just because it's not a secondary school. Would you mind elaborating?

    Thanks, Hazel

    Request for assistance

    I'm not sure how to ask, but you reviewed our page for the Hanna Boys Center last. I just found a reference to our non-profit in the United States COngressional Record at our 60th Anniversary in 2010. It's obviously old but maybe it can help as a non-local reference.

    I am not sure what else I need to do here. I am happy to strip content out of my entry to get it to be non-advertising but I don't know what to remove.

    This process is more than a little difficult.

    Please help our non-profit do good work for at-risk teenagers!!!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hanna_Boys_Center

    Christy

    04:36:47, 2 February 2017 review of submission by Niyu13


    Hi there. My draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dr._Keyur_Parikh has been rejected. Can you please guide me how to make the article notable? This is my first article draft. Niyu13 (talk) 04:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    05:26:55, 2 February 2017 review of submission by Paul2520

    Hi SwisterTwister, thanks for your earlier review of Draft:John Woodrow Wilson. Your comment mentions that it would have established nobility to list museum collections in which Wilson's work resides. That list has been added, with references, and the article has been cleaned up a bit. Would you mind taking another look? Thank you! - Paul2520 (talk) 05:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you very much! - Paul2520 (talk) 05:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 05:45:35, 2 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Human like you


    Hello SwisterTwister, I would like you to have a look at Turkish Wikipedia regarding this article in another language: TUSAŞ Motor Sanayii A.Ş. I followed the same format in content, and added major news sources such as the Hürriyet Daily News and Algemeiner Journal papers following you recent recommendation. Sincerely, Human like you (talk) 05:45, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission declined on 31 January 2017 by SwisterTwister (talk).

    Hi SwisterTwister, yesterday you mentioned in my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Soumyadipta_Banerjee that "Still not significant to satisfy our basic standards." can you please guide me for what and why you think its no significant as the article has strong reference and also connected to other wikipedia approved articles. Thank you. Madlybong (talk) 09:59, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 18:07:05, 2 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Miraclevp


    Hi Madam,

    I just want to fully understand what are the sources that are valid. Did you happen to see any from all the sources I have cited? If yes, may you please share to me which ones are valid so I can further understand. Thank you

    Miraclevp (talk) 18:07, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hey ST. FYI: Miraclevp is being paid to write about this subject and has not declared who her employer and client are. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:14, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi! I've declared that info in my userpage, that what I was told. just put it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miraclevp (talk • contribs) 10:20, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    No, you haven't. You must declare your company and client, not just that you are being paid. — JJMC89 (T·C) 16:52, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 19:05:58, 2 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Jcharlesberry


    Hi, can you give me an opinion on my edits? Thanks for all your help!

    Jcharlesberry (talk) 19:05, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Apology and clarification request

    Greetings, SwisterTwister -

    When first attempting to get my page added to Wikipedia, I did iterate on content a few times. I was finally told by one of the editors (Onel15969) that my content was "better" than my original (e.g., less PR-sounding) and just needed an additional citation or two before it would be considered for page creation. My apologies for misunderstanding this.

    I would like to request another attempt to re-write my content with the additional citations I was able to secure. Is this a possibility or will future submissions be automatically disregarded altogether as a result of my misunderstanding?

    It would be very helpful for your feedback on this. Thank you very much.

    MaeDarla (talk) 19:14, 2 February 2017 (UTC)MaeDarlaMaeDarla (talk) 19:14, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    07:58:40, 3 February 2017 review of submission by 88.95.141.156


    Hi! Thanks for the review. Added references from a variety of news sources on multiple topics. Used other podcast pages as reference for how rigor this should be, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Screen_Savers

    Hope that's enough for approval! Thanks

    Your review of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:East_Hope_Group

    Hi SwisterTwister,

    Thank you for reviewing my East Hope Group draft. You mentioned the need for more info from major news sources to meet the notability requirement, and I wonder whether you could elaborate a bit more. I have used a number of major news outlets, as well as industry-specific publications and official documents in Chinese. Hence, I feel that the scope and type of publications employed do satisfy the necessary standards for notability and neutrality, especially considering that the company is a major player in the aluminium market. Do you believe there is, for example, too much a reliance on Chinese-language sources, etc?

    Thanks in advance for your feedback.

    Chinabusiness (talk) 09:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 11:12:50, 3 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Toomuchfranking


    Hi SwisterTwister,

    I would like to make this more of an encyclopedic entry and it's not intended as an advert. The work of Grant Macdonald as a silversmith, the historical significance of his/his company's work (such as the Dresden Frauenkirche and his role within the Worshipful company of Goldsmiths) and his recent achievement of the Royal Warrant from Prince Charles makes him of note. Would it be possible to help me with guidance on specific parts that are causing alarm? I based the article structure on Asprey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asprey as it's within the same industry.

    Thanks so much!

    Toomuchfranking (talk) 11:12, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    21:37:26, 3 February 2017 review of submission by Missionaryofgod


    Hello! What do you need more precisely? And do I need to restructure or rework the draft in some way? There are really no other good sources I can find on the web but I have interviewed the main member of the band himself for a book I am writing. That in my world is a very good source. I have seen many bands on Wikipedia that are not so wellknown and with the same type of sources so why is mine declined? I belive they are an important band for the american synthpop scene. Best wishes! Robert Missionaryofgod (talk) 21:37, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    16:20, 30 January 2017 review of draft article 'ATEE' by Holdspa

    Hi. Your comment was: "Unacceptable in our policies as there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone and what's here is only a business announcement sourced by business announcements". SwisterTwister talk 16:20, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

    I understand the notability issue and I can work on that. But I don't understand your reference to this article being "supported by business announcements"; international organisations like UNESCO and the European Commission are not business organisations, and these are some of those I cited in the draft article as validating the work of ATEE. If the validation of major organisations like these is not acceptable, what is? Holdspa (talk) 11:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:Joseph J. Esposito

    Hello SwisterTwister,

    thank you for your review of Draft:Joseph J. Esposito. I have changed most of the sources inclusive one of the nytimes aund I added some information of his CV do you think it is now good enough for publishing? kind regards

    Tomlux (talk) 16:16, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    17:08:47, 4 February 2017 review of submission by Arshad.ppd


    I would like to thanks for your review. Unfortunately my submitted article doesn't meet wiki's guideline for notable personality article. After your firs review I have added a few more references. I think it should meet your guideline. Here I want to inform you that Bangladesh's news industry basically depends on Bengali language. A few English language Daily Newspaper or Online News portal available in here. So, Bangladeshi actress Misty Zannat's news are all around in Bengali language online and newspaper but a fewer in English newspaper and online. Before re-review my article please consider this fact.

    Request on 08:48:22, 5 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Olympicfcfan


    Hi there, how can I go about improving the article to ensure that the draft is accepted?


    Olympicfcfan (talk) 08:48, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    12:22:34, 5 February 2017 review of submission by Missionaryofgod


    Hi again! I just wanted to add about notability for the band Declaration that they have 97800 followers on Twitter. They also have a trademark. Missionaryofgod (talk) 12:22, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    A food for thought....

    As you did at Draft:Peter Wakeman, it is in my opinion a mildly disruptive act to not mention the ASD tagging in the edit summary when you are proposing a page for speedy deletion.Probably WP:TWINKLE could come to your help in such cases and also save a lot of time.Thanks!

    18:37:41, 5 February 2017 review of submission by Marangros


    Hi guys, thanks for the comments. I'm happy to add more reviews as there are many to choose from. Still, I'm surprised that Nick Kristoff's (arguably the most important reviewer at the NY Times) isn't alone sufficient. Is that all this needs? Just more reviews? Please advise and I will continue adding them. Thanks very much!

    18:38:07, 5 February 2017 review of submission by 76.116.109.177


    I believe the added television interviews and press accounts meet the standards for notability.

    Your submission at Articles for creation: CRON systems

    Hi, I have updated the article with recent, notable news sources, kindly re-review Latheist (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Your submission at Draft:Cool Cat Saves the Kids

    What do you mean by "this will need all available major news and reviews."? Alsamrudo (talk) 19:14, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    19:22:00, 5 February 2017 review of submission by Marangros


    Thanks very much. I've just added a lot of reviews from very serious sources including multiple NYtimes, Forbes, BBC, Rolling Stone, the observer, Kirkus (major publishing industry reviewer) and quite a few more.

    Hope that helps!

    Timoprazole

    Switched its category from Chemistry to Pharmacology :) Aglo123 (talk) 21:22, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 03:59:00, 6 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Shubhagovil


    I was trying to create a page about an upcoming conference DevNet Create. It got rejected in review. Do not know why. Please help.Shubhagovil (talk) 03:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)Shubhagovil[reply]


    Shubhagovil (talk) 03:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    04:07:55, 6 February 2017 review of submission by ALCMEL



    Hi David/SwisterTwister,

    Thanks very much for reviewing the submission. I read your feedback and have a question regarding references. I'm not sure where I can get any more references from. Would it help by removing the two "article" based ones which were: https://issuu.com/starweekly/docs/nsw-20150721 and www.beanscenemag.com.au/news/article/the-espress-group-to-feature-painted-ellipse-machines-during-mice2013

    I only included these two reference links as there wasn't a great deal of information available (and I do realise they were promotional type articles but I wanted something to show the existence of the two companies).If the two links above were removed would it be sufficient to have this published?

    This entry submission is to simply note the existence of the two companies and that Espress Group took over from the initial company. I'm also experiencing difficulty displaying the references as per instructions. Another user, MatthewVanitas kindly updated two of the links as they should be but even with following the instructions for ref links I can't seem to replicate what he's done with the remaining links. I also can't remove the two "article" based ones as listed above.

    Any further help would be much appreciated as I'm a little stuck.

    Thanks again. 

    (ALCMEL (talk) 04:07, 6 February 2017 (UTC))[reply]

    Request on 05:12:47, 6 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AlkaPandey1234


    Hi,

    This is with reference to my draft on latentview analytics. I do not understand that why it has been rejected again. If I write too much about the company, you call it advertising and if I write too little you say its not notable. Can you please clarify which sentence looks like advertising? Moreover, other analytics companies like fractal analytics,opera solutions , MuSigma Inc follow the same structure and language in wikipedia which has been accepted. Could you please clarify this as to what particularly you find advertising in the article and what do you expect to see. AlkaPandey1234 (talk) 05:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    AlkaPandey1234 (talk) 05:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 05:30:38, 6 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Tkwikihelper


    Hello! I recently submitted the Zachary Wadsworth page, which you declined. I will work on it more. What should I improve? Your message was "Not satisfying our basic policies and there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone." Which policies did I miss? Also, I'm curious what notability you look for in a composer. I'm not sure my references worked properly, but I'm not sure why. Do you know how to fix them?

    Thank you very much for your time!

    Best, -TK


    Tkwikihelper (talk) 05:30, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    22:22:00, 4 February 2017 Review of Submission by Ton-E-M

    Hello SwisterTwister,

    You recently reviewed a Draft that I submitted, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Patriot_Software,_LLC.

    Your criticism was that this draft didn't include significant coverage from reliable sources. It's good criticism, and I cannot dispute that.

    I believe the subject's most reliable independent source that wasn't a passing mention is http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20160428/NEWS/160419803/qa-mike-kappel-ceo-of-patriot-software-in-canton.

    In addition, I forgot to include a news article on the subject in Canton's newspaper, the Canton Repository: http://www.cantonrep.com/news/20160403/jackson-townships-patriot-software-helps-fill-small-businesses-needs.

    In your eyes, is that enough to establish the subject's notability? If not, what number of sources did you have in mind as a minimum threshold?

    I trust your judgement, and would like to do this correctly. Your input will most definitely help.

    Thank you,

    Ton-E-M (talk) 15:05, 6 February 2017 (UTC)Ton-E-M[reply]

    20:09:17, 6 February 2017 review of submission by Aubiaubidee


    You declined this article with the reasoning "this is simply what they would advertise to clients and it's unconvincing regardless of anything or anyone" however, it is not clear what is 'unconvincing', much less who is 'anything or anyone'. Please state coherent grounds for declining it, so that the problem can be fixed.

    Also, you stated "examining the sources find they're only announcements and mentions". This did not reflect the facts at the time of the original submission, and even less so now. In the original submission, two reliable, independent sources were cited (namely Cleveland Encyclopedia and ASME), both showing that the subject of this article is both notable and worthy of inclusion. In the meantime, a second more detailed reference by ASME (which has a national audience) as well as a reference from Heartland Science (created by the Ohio Academy of Science) have been added. Both of these also discuss how the subject of this article is notable and worthy of inclusion.

    Please accept the submission. Thank you for your time.

    20:15:39, 6 February 2017 review of submission by Colineverest


    Hi,

    Thanks for reviewing this submission! I'm not sure that I understand your feedback in the context of Wikipedia's guidelines for notability for creative individuals.

    These guidelines read as follows:

    "1.The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. 2.The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique. 3.The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. 4.The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums."

    My submission is based on the belief that EMN satisfies at least two of these criteria. In particular, in accordance with the first criteria, it is my belief that ENM's notability as an author is established by: her own writing (sourced); her responsibility for making the reputation of TPT; her reputation in the eyes of her peers as evidenced, for example, by her responsibility in assisting with the publication of Catcher in the Rye.

    With respect to her reputation as an artist, the fourth criteria includes the standard that "the person...has won significant critical attention." ENM's award with respect to her painting is explicitly referenced in the submission. I don't see the requirement in the above that you reference, namely, that the subject of a submission in this category verify their notability with holdings in libraries. I believe that such a standard does not exist for very good reason.

    While I am willing to concede that EMN's notability as a either an author or a painter might present a close case, I think it quite easy to make a case for her notability based on her accomplishments across disciplines.

    Marginal cases like these, and the interpretation of the rules that you are applying in the case of this submission, are rather troubling to me. While I have no doubt that submissions are reviewed on their own merits, as you suggest, my concern is that these individual merits concerns, carried out in an uncoordinated manner, work to systematically undermine the notability of figures like ENM whose work exists in multiple registers. More concerning than that, however, is the way that these individual decisions work to undermine the notability of women. It pains me to see the concessions made both here and in response to my comments on TokyoGirl1979's page regarding derivative notability in the context of artistic communities, and the role played specifically by women in such communities. While the subject is no doubt complicated, it was my belief that in the context of Wikipedia, which has extensive discussion of artistic and literary salons, particular examples of such salon luminaries would be welcome, if only for the purposes of critique.

    Having said this I urge you to reconsider your decision. This will be my final inter-Wikipedia exchange on this topic, and I thank you for your time, attention, and commitment.

    Aloha, Colineverest (talk) 20:15, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Smyser-Bair House

    Hi, just letting you know that I deleted the AFC page you accepted: Smyser-Bair House as a copyright infringement. The content was just about entirely copied from other websites. Perhaps the author is the one that wrote some of those, but OTRS would be needed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:05, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    00:17:22, 7 February 2017 review of submission by Mgenzac



    Hello and thank you for taking the time to read my article. I have spent the last 9 days reformatting and re-writing my entire article. I realized that my first entry was entirely wrong in the style and type of information provided. The subject luckily had a full life and I was able to find a number of third party references supporting my facts. I also focused the article on his professional achievements and scientific research as opposed to the personal aspects I had originally placed in the piece. I am enthusiastic that the new article may have a chance. Thank you again. Mgenzac (talk) 00:17, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 06:00:52, 7 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Shubhagovil


    Question regarding comment on my page Hello David, I am trying to create a developer conference page like Microsoft Build/Google I/O and other such developer conferences have. It is not a vendor specific conference, but more of an industry conference. Sponsors include Linux Foundation and Cisco DevNet. We will keep this wiki update for folks who want to learn more about this industry event.

    Thanks, --Shubhagovil (talk) 06:00, 7 February 2017 (UTC)Shubha[reply]

    Shubhagovil (talk) 06:00, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    re: Draft:List of Washburn Guitars instruments

    Thank you for your response; it is taken to heart. My concern in drafting a stand-alone list is that I didn't want to clutter an encyclopedic article with a big chunk of data blocks. Because of your feedback, I have just now found relevant commentary in the Manual of Style for such lists, where "Every entry in the list fails the notability criteria" therefore such "are almost always better placed within the context of an article on their "parent" topic."

    Work on the list(s) will continue, with intent to bring it into the main Washburn Guitars article when properly fleshed out. And, yes, references ARE being upgraded.

    I appreciate your time and guidance.
    Weeb Dingle (talk) 07:40, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 10:34:03, 7 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Jim2017OW


    Dear SwisterTwister,

    Many thanks for your time in reviewing and commenting on my draft article on 'OrderWise'. It is greatly appreciated.

    I was very careful to avoid promotional language such as ‘one of the fastest growing companies’ or ‘a wide range range of features’, or ‘greatly boosts a company’s performance’ etc.

    I kept everything very factual/neutral, with no bold sale’sy claims, and rigorously referenced the article to a range of third party external independent sources. See specific notes on these below.

    In particular, one of the main reference sources used is the Lincolnshire Echo newspaper’s website (Lincolnshire Live) which is an Independent Press Standards Organisations Code of Conduct adhering newspaper which indeed has its own Wikipedia article.

    Furthermore, the Mel West. “Software specialists OrderWise reflects on a year of growth and success”. Lincolnshire Live, 21st December 2016 reference and the “Sarah Harrison-Barker. “David Hallam: Finding order in chaos”. Lincolnshire Business, 19th February 2016” reference were major feature articles in the respective publications, written by professional journalists.

    As such, there are multiple reliable, independent and verifiable sources used throughout.

    Re: the awards – they were independently judged and I referenced them and included them as ‘factual occurrences’. Some of the awards were referenced to the Lincolnshire Echo newspaper’s website (Lincolnshire Live) which, as already stated is an Independent Press Standards Organisations Code of Conduct adhering newspaper which indeed has its own Wikipedia article.

    Any help and specific suggestions as to what can be done to, or removed from, the article to make it more suitable for Wikipedia would be greatly appreciated. I’ve looked at similar company articles and they seem to have sections on ‘features/products’, ‘architecture’, accreditations, etc.

    Similarly, all sorts of articles seem to mention award wins.

    As a first time Wikipedia drafter I am keen to understand and comply with all guidelines, policies etc, so some further, specific guidance would be a great help.

    Thank you.

    Notes:

    Lincolnshire Live is the website of the Lincolnshire Echo newspaper. “The Lincolnshire Echo endeavours to be balanced and accurate in all its reports, in accordance with the Code of Practice of the Independent Press Standards Organisation.” http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/contact.html “The paper uses its www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk website to break stories from the Echo” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_Echo

    The Gainsborough Standard is a local newspaper (and has been used as a reference source for other Wikipedia articles). “This newspaper and its website is a member of the Independent Press Standards Organisation, the regulatory body for the press, and abides by its code of conduct.” http://www.gainsboroughstandard.co.uk/contact-us

    “The Lincolnite covers the top news from the greater Lincoln area and is published independently by Stonebow Media Ltd.” http://thelincolnite.co.uk/site-credits/

    “Lincolnshire Business is the biggest business publication in greater Lincolnshire and is published independently by Stonebow Media Ltd.” http://lincsbusiness.co/site-credits/

    Insider Media – Insider Media produce regional business-to-business magazines. https://www.insidermedia.com/about-us

    East Midlands Business News – “Publishers statement: Whilst we welcome all submissions to our news room, due to the large number we receive on a daily basis, we cannot guarantee that all news items submitted will be published on our site. Press releases and news items submitted are reviewed as to their news value and suitability for our audience, which is the business community across the region.” http://eastmidlandsbusinessnews.co.uk/contact-us/

    Techsparx Regional Tech News – “We have created TechSparx to bring you the best of regional business technology news…a view of what’s happening in the technology world in the Midlands and North of England.” http://www.techsparx.co.uk/about-us-technology-news-north/

    Materials Handling World Magazine is an online trade/industry magazine published by North Lodge Media Ltd. https://mhwmagazine.co.uk/contact-us

    Field Service News is a business journal dedicated to the Field Service industry with news, insight and analysis. Field Service News is published by 1927 Media Ltd. http://fieldservicenews.com/about-field-service-news/

    Essential Retail covers “original news and analysis” and “breaking UK and international retail news stories from a tech perspective”. http://www.essentialretail.com/single-page/about-us

    Internet Retailing provides “insight, commentary and analysis on news stories, recent releases and developments in the multichannel retail sector.” http://internetretailing.net/category/news/ In terms of what they publish they state: “Please note that we are not interested in sales pitches (even if they purport to be ‘thought leadership’ – a pitch is a pitch), nor are we interested in articles that do not reference current, relevant expertise.” http://internetretailing.net/about/editorial-team/

    Midlands Family Business Awards – “Established in 2010, The Midlands Family Business Awards is a charitable initiative organised by Nottinghamshire family business The Wilson Organisation. Through the awards we aim to create an ethical, friendly and supportive community for our region’s family businesses. The Midlands Family Business Awards are independent, not-for-profit and free to enter.” http://www.familybusinessawards.co.uk/ “Each of the finalists shortlisted in our 10 judged categories were automatically entered in the People’s Choice Award. Unlike our other categories there is no independent judging panel - as the name suggests, this Award is voted for by the public so the Winner and Highly Commended were decided purely by online public vote.” http://www.familybusinessawards.co.uk/peoples-choice-award

    Jim2017OW (talk) 10:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Jim2017OW (talk) 10:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 12:47:36, 7 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Jim2017OW


    Hi Again,

    Further to my previous message, just another couple of points that I forgot to add:

    The review notice states the article “should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed”. However, the article I wrote ONLY contains references from independent verifiable sources, and there is NO self produced content referenced.

    You mention in your review that interviews had been used as reference sources, but I was very careful not to use any quotes from company employees from news articles that included interview elements. Instead I only used reference sources that had facts, information and statements made by the professional journalist.

    Thanks again for your time. Jim2017OW (talk) 12:47, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Jim2017OW (talk) 12:47, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Review of CheckMarx

    You reviewed my submission of Checkmarx and chose to decline it. This is despite the existence of articles that have far less proof of notability in the same field such as BlueOptima, CAST Application Intelligence Platform, [[Codacy], [[ConQAT] and Imagix 4D. The article on Checkmarx has sources that are similar to those articles, and for all of them has more sources, that are more reputable that report more precisely about Checkmarx. Can you help me understand what type of reporting you would be looking for? אגם רפאלי (talk) 17:28, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    19:28:14, 7 February 2017 review of submission by Nbcarder


    I just need some suggestions on how to find better references. Especially on information such as his career and education. Is the LinkedIn reference the main issue? Of the references I had, which ones are acceptable?

    1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Zehnder
    2. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidrick_%26_Struggles
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