User talk:UninvitedCompany/archive4

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Our recent interactions

I am uncomfortable with a couple if interactions we have had recently. You are a user I highly respect, someone whose integrity is without question. Early upon coming here you made some very friendly and thoughtful comments to me on IRC which convinced me not to leave the project. You are also one of the core personalities here, and for that reason as well I strongly prefer not to engage in any sort of personality conflict with you. If there are things which concern you, I am willing to discuss. I think there are some meta-issues which we see differently, but I assure you I do not desire to be disruptive nor antagonistic to the best interests of the project. Cheers, Sam Spade

Lilypond

I agree that Lilypond is likely to be the best free-software score typesetting solution for the forseeable future, but I'd still prefer if we avoided simply wholesale embedding Lilypond code into Wikipedia articles, like we do with LaTeX math code. IMO, wikitext ought to remain as close to semantically-relevant as possible, so it can be rendered in a number of ways. LaTeX is so far the only external language that can be directly embedded, and it's not a particularly bad one, because only a subset is allowed anyway, and it's well-defined and, for the most part, semantically meaningful (perhaps not ideal, but not horrendous).

My preferred solution would be to start with a simple markup that would be rendered through Lilypond, but which would be semantically clear enough to be conceivably converted to some other format if others wish to render through a different backend. I guess my main issue is that I think we ought to store notational information in some sort of notation-markup language rather than a typesetting language. Lilypond may be slightly better than rendering with your own preferred software and uploading the PNG, but only slightly, IMO. --Delirium 01:18, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

RfA - Ruhrjung

Thank you for your kind proposal.

Now is not the best time. Due to changes in my professional life, in recent months I've had considerably fewer days each month with opportunity to sleep and eat at home, than I've got used to in the last years — not to mention opportunity for computerized recreation. :-)

Additionally, I think I would be dishonest, if I didn't mention that I'm distressed by what I perceive as Wikipedia's vulnerability for campaigns from determined and energetic Wikipedians with an agenda that only ostensibly recognizes fundamental principles of Wikipedia. This surely contributes to my limited motivation.
--Ruhrjung 08:16, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)

You might, by the way, want to browse the contributions by User:Johan Magnus. I'm particularly impressed by his ways at talk pages, where his presence seems to defuse disputes, often before they've reached the stadge of potential conflicts. I have intended (I still intend) to nominate him, but I seem to be runing short of time again, and have not yet understood the present methodology for additions at RfA. See: User talk:Johan Magnus#Adminship and User talk:Whiskey#Continuation War where he acknoledge to have what appears to be a decade of experience of internet discussions and diverging views on matters of North-European history and contemporary societies. I know the actual usenet forum, but am not particularly impressed by its appearance. Somewhat more impressing the FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/nordic/ is, that Johas has been one of two editors of. This experience clearly shows in his judgements with regard to recent, possibly controversial, additions.
--Ruhrjung 08:42, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)

Jeronimo

The user has not been especially active, which brings up the question of their ability or willingness to execute admin responsibilities, unless we feel that adminship is simply an honorific, and I and many others do not. The user has been on Wikipedia during the time frame on the nomination but has not paid attention to this for whatever reason. The RfA page states:

Note: Nominations have to be accepted by the user in question. If you nominate a user, please also leave a message on their talk page and ask them to reply here if they accept the nomination.

and the instructions for promotion say:

1. If [the nomination] is not a self-request, check the user has accepted the nomination

I respect your desire for inclusiveness, but if seven days is sufficient time for 24 Wikipedians to vote for the nomination, it is sufficient time for the candidate to be aware of what's going on. To this end I posted a request on Jeronimo's talk at the same time I extended the nomination. If he/she does not respond, the nomination can always be reposted.

I would ask also that you inform your nominees that they must accept their nominations on the RfA page. It is simple respect for the community, in addition to being a rule. As of the moment, three of your nominees have not accepted or rejected their nominations after being posted for 24-72 hours. I left a message earlier today on each nominee's talk. Cheers, -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 01:08, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

To acknowledge your point, of course Jeronimo may simply be unaware that he was supposed to formally accept, which is why I posted a note to him and extended the nomination. I will see if he logs in during the next 24 hours to determine whether he is likely to be aware of this. Kind regards, Cecropia | explains it all ® 01:23, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)