Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tal slutzker

Tal slutzker

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Fails WP:ANYBIO for lack of available sources. - Mr X 13:12, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No news hits suggests no substantive coverage as required for GNG either. O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 13:16, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 02:39, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 02:39, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Finding multiple sources, just added a long profile article from 2011.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:43, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Added several articles that include details of his bio and long descriptions of his work form which a good article can be sourced, there were more similar. I did not expand the article, just added a few articles and confirmed that he is a notable artist. It is likely that his name has variant spellings; he is the son of Russian immigrant to a Hebrew-speaking country, so transliteration of the name form Hebrew or Cryillic alphabets is probably queering editors searches. Including mine, which turned up many hits in the Jerusalem Post, guessing that the other big Israeli dailies transliterated it differently.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:57, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Participating in exhibitions in Tel Aviv and Ramat Gan museums of art grant passing WP:CREATIVE. In addition to Jerusalem Post references, I've found some references in Maariv. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 11:30, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CommentThe shows in the Tel Aviv Museum of Art and the Ramat Gan Museum of Israeli Art are group exhibitons; I do not see how they could be considered to satisfy WP:CREATIVE's requirement for "being a major part of a significant exhibition". Very routine stuff.104.163.152.194 (talk) 09:12, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 02:06, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:50, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It seems that notability, if any, is confined to Israel. The museum shows, mentioned above, are actually group shows, which is vastly different from having a solo show or being in the permanent collection. It's therefore difficult to verify the notability, and to say whether it's purely local or something more significant. The article needs significant cleanup. Google books returns little. I'm not convinced that he is a significant painter, or that this is an important article for the wiki.198.58.162.176 (talk) 06:06, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See my comment below to confirm that he is in the permanent collection of the national museum. But national notability in any country is not "purely local." it is national.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:40, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's a paper-based information index, not a collection. See my comment below.104.163.152.194 (talk) 08:57, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete still no clear passing of the notability guidelines for artists.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:22, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

:*This: [1] page on the Israel Museum website confirms that he passes WP:ARTIST, 4. It not only provides a WP:RS bio (birth, education) It links to a page showing exhibitions of his work in galleries and in other major museums, including the Tel Aviv Museum of Art and the Ramat Gan Museum of Israeli Art. Page links to a page showing a number of Slutzker works in the permanent collection of the Israel Museum. E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:32, 21 February 2017 (UTC) My error.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:59, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CommentE.M.Gregory, I believe the page you linked to above to prove notability is actually just an index of Israeli artists. When I click the "collections" tab, then search for his name, I get nothing. Here is the page for S-named artists in the Israel Museum's permanent collection. Eero Saarinen is at the top, and Slutzker is not on the list. The page linked to above also lists 100s of artists whose surname ends in S, meaning the collection would have perhaps 5000 different artists in it (200x26), which would be a truly massive collection. Conclusion: slutzker is not in the Israel Msueum permanent colleciton. Now, if one checks the Wikipedia page for the Information Center for Israeli Art, which is the name given on the page you linked to above, it does say they have text files for over 12000 artists. Having a file folder in a museum with your name on it and paper reviews inside is not what WP:ARTIST refers to when it says the artist has their work in the collections of a major museums. The other museum shows you mention (the Tel Aviv Museum of Art and the Ramat Gan Museum of Israeli Art) above are all group shows, and not permanent collections, so they have no bearing on point four of WP:ARTIST. Also apologies for the confusion, but my router's periodic reset means my old IP of 198.58.162.176 is now: 104.163.152.194 (talk) 08:52, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, point four of WP:ARTIST does not command a solo show, but requires "has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition". Tel Aviv Museum of Art and the Ramat Gan Museum of Israeli Art are major Israeli museums and the shows there bring the artist to a National Level of notability. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 09:50, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

'Note that the 2000, 2006 and 2011 articles from the Jerusalem Post are long profile/feature articles about this artist. I linked them from Proquest, which is password protected.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:43, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]