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Expert attention
This is a notice about Category:Lighthouses articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 05:23, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for setting up this category. I'm sure there are some articles out there that do need expert attention. De728631 (talk) 12:08, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
I've gone and updated this on the Deduction that this is strictly an Irish/UK thing. People familiar with the area should review the current version. Mangoe (talk) 03:32, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Article Alerts
The article alerts subscription for this project is restricted to (DEL, COPYVIO, PR, RfC), see Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Subscription_list#L so it doesn't show Good Article Nominations or Requested Moves for example. Does anyone have any objection to this being changed to all alerts...Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:35, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- Changed to all, and heading on project page updated...Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:28, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Light(house) vs light(house) article name
Looking around I've noticed that some articles use a lower case l, mostly as (Foobar lighthouse), but the majority use a capital L (Foobar Light(house)). I have always used the capital L, but for clarification in case anyone is unsure I thought I would raise it here. Is there an agreed consensus to use the capital L for article names ?...Jokulhlaup (talk) 14:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- That's a good question. I'm not aware of any consensus for using upper or lower case letters. But, if in doubt we should just go along with WP:COMMONNAME and use whatever the majority of reliable sources is using. And that means that there may not even be a common scheme to follow. Unless this has been discussed before, I'd suggest though that we use Light(house) with a capital L if that is the common name (most often when part of the proper name), and light(house) with a lower-case l if that is just meant as a sort of addendum or disambiguation for non-English names or names in nautical charts where just the geographic location is being used. De728631 (talk) 20:46, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- For US lights the Coast Guard invariably capitalizes "Light" (which they prefer these days over "Lighthouse"). I would tend to say that the usage of the controlling authority in each country should be followed (e.g. in the UK that would be Trinity House). Mangoe (talk) 14:05, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- The term 'lighthouse' has been in use for several centuries, so I propose it is not changed. 'Light' can mean too many other things - lighthouse is very specific. Whether it should be a proper noun is debatable, but when referring to a particular lighthouse (such as Foobar Lighthouse) it should be capitalised IMHO.GlassyEye (talk) 09:44, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Portal:Lighthouses
I have pulled together a portal for lighthouses at Portal:Lighthouses as there seemed to be a good selection of articles, pictures and DYK’s to make it look interesting. To select articles I created a recognized content page using JL-Bot, which is now at Lighthouses recognized content. I have overwritten the existing manual list on the main page as well, for featured, good and DYK articles. Hopefully, the portal and the project page changes will prove useful...Jokulhlaup (talk) 15:01, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Norwegian merger
We have Lighthouses in Norway, and we have List of lighthouses in Norway. It seems to me that these ought to be merged, but which way? Mangoe (talk) 20:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- I would suggest merging Lighthouses in Norway into the List of lighthouses in Norway article. The listing has more information, and matches other European lighthouse lists...Jokulhlaup (talk) 08:48, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- That was the way I was leaning, but I wanted to hear from others first. Mangoe (talk) 17:07, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed, let's have List of lighthouses in Norway as the representative article. De728631 (talk) 14:37, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
I have just prodded this stub. While the directory itself is invaluable, I think we can hardly justify having an article about it when there is almost no coverage by other media. De728631 (talk) 14:44, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Standard format for US state lists
Hi there. I'm working on Maryland lights. One of my goals is to get the List of lighthouses in Maryland up to Featured List status. I am of course using the Connecticut list as a guide since it has reached feature quality. I note that the MD list has an 'automated' column. In the interest of making the lists consistent I was considering removing that column from the Maryland list. Other than that I think improving the reference/citations in-line should just about get it there. TheCrazedBeast (talk) 23:47, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- TheCrazedBeast, I don't know why "automated" is missing from the Connecticut list; I've put it on basically every other list as it is a datum that the CG provides, and the transition from manned to unmanned is of interest to people. Mangoe (talk) 14:53, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info Mangoe. I'll leave well enough alone then. TheCrazedBeast (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- TheCrazedBeast, One thing I do find surprising on the US Lists is the lack of a column for Tower Height, so a casual reader can’t sort the table to see which is the tallest/shortest and those in between. The lead for the Connecticut list tells us the tallest lighthouse is the New London Harbor Light, but the only height given in the table is that for the Focal Height (which has no link or note to a definition). The Range of the active lights would also be something to consider (i.e. which is the most powerful light in the state)...Jokulhlaup (talk) 10:34, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- It's not there because I haven't been able to get it with any consistency. Range is likewise only available as rule for active lights. There's aso the question of how many columns there is room for. Mangoe (talk) 12:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation Mangoe, does that mean that Rowlett’s directory is not considered consistent enough for use in these articles?..Jokulhlaup (talk) 15:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- It's not there because I haven't been able to get it with any consistency. Range is likewise only available as rule for active lights. There's aso the question of how many columns there is room for. Mangoe (talk) 12:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Animated characteristics
So in my editing adventures I naturally stumbled across several lights with an animated gif of the characteristic. I found them a bit lacking in that I could not use the same look and also incorporate sectoring. So, I make a few of my own. Please have a look in commons:Category:Lighthouse_signals to see them along with the older style. They are simple to make and I would be happy to create them for anyone. Note that the timing can be very precise (to the millisecond). You can see one in action at Baltimore Harbor Light. Comments and suggestions welcome! TheCrazedBeast (talk) 03:09, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi! Would you create an animated signal that flashes green at 5-second intervals for the Block Island Southeast Light? It could be modified from one of your existing animations which flash white at 5-second intervals and green at 4-second intervals. Waz8:T-C-E 00:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Done and added to the article infobox. I happened to add one to the BI North light recently too. Came across them as I was starting to plan a trip to Block Island this spring to go geocaching ;) Any other requests just post on my talk page! TheCrazedBeast (talk) 18:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, your animation on the BI North light is what prompted my request. I haven't been there since 2015 -- enjoy your trip! Waz8:T-C-E 04:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Done and added to the article infobox. I happened to add one to the BI North light recently too. Came across them as I was starting to plan a trip to Block Island this spring to go geocaching ;) Any other requests just post on my talk page! TheCrazedBeast (talk) 18:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Category:Round towers has been nominated for discussion
Category:Round towers has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. --Bermicourt (talk) 10:11, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Article importance assessment
Whilst assessing lighthouse articles I have struggled to interpret the current criteria for article importance on the assessment page. I checked the project archives containing the discussion about how the criteria came about, which included some further ideas about how they could be improved. I have reworked those ideas into the table below.
It’s not perfect (as the various designations are not all comparable), maybe the Tower of Hercules should be in the Top category as the only World heritage site. But hopefully it will prompt a discussion and help to clarify the importance of the many unassessed articles which still persist...Jokulhlaup (talk) 14:42, 26 January 2017 (UTC)