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OS X category

Please do not add the "OS X" only category to this article as the article itself plainly shows why doing so would be inappropriate. Previous versions of Mail.app existed on NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP, so Mail not only runs on OS X but on NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP also. The argument that because OS X is related to NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP the category is appropriate is incorrect -- NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP were never created with Mac OS in mind -- Mac OS X was adapted from OPENSTEP and Rhapsody, not the other way around. Dysprosia 05:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't even matter -- Mac OS X Mail started at 1.0. It is a new product. --Steven Fisher 06:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It does matter. Just because there's a different version number doesn't mean you can deny that Mail.app is derived from the Mail application in NS/OS -- the article makes this clear. Saying that since Mail.app in OS X is somehow different to Mail.app elsewhere and so deserves to be considered "OS X only" makes very little sense. Dysprosia 08:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the old article supported the NeXT heritage well. Your latest changes resolve my issue with that, though. Good work. Although now we have NeXTSTEP and NEXTSTEP links within a few lines; I'm unsure which to go with. Can you fix that up? --Steven Fisher 15:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't v1 support HTML?

Didn't Mail v1 support HTML? It's listed here as a new feature in v2.

It appears the option to change the outgoing message format existed by version 1.3.3
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=151470
The choices are not explictly metioned however apple documentation on new features with v2 does not include HTML messaging.
Looks like the choice of RTF vs. plain text for sending goes back at least to the first release os x version.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106189
That however would not mean HTML support was also present. I will investigate further before updating the article.
--Reeves87gmailcom 19:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
After searching on google and apples documentation the only item of HTML specific support I could find was the "Add Hyperlink..." option introduced in v2. Unless someone knows otherwise I would say previous versions could not compose HTML. Apple did however change the rendering engine for incoming HTML messages about version 1.3.3 perhaps this is what you were thinking of.
--Reeves87gmailcom 20:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Version history

I would like to see a version history similar to what is setup for iSync. Reeves87gmailcom 19:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Mail Icon.png

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Mail.app History

Here is a good appleinsider article that traces Mail.app's history and includes many screen shots. Maybe this could be added to the external links section. It would be nice if the NeXT versions were added to the version history. More dates would also be nice. For instance, when was the 1st version released? I believe Mail.app goes back to 1988 with the early releases of NEXTSTEP. I don't think we need to have a separate article for NeXTMail. NeXTMail and Mail.app are the same program. Come to think, NeXTMail should be added to the "aka" at the top of the article. --Coremont (talk) 18:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DB Format

We need to note the recent mail database format change. Anyone have details on what changed? --Elvey (talk) 15:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

title

Why is the main title "Mail (application)" and not "Mail (software)" by Wikipedia convention? 83.25.123.168 (talk) 14:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Source Code

I would like to access the source code of this particular piece of software, please add a link in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.56.87.208 (talk) 16:18, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PGP encryption?

No mention of it in the article, is it supported at all? Richiez (talk) 23:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Only through third-party plugins, like https://gpgtools.org/.--Totie (talk) 04:17, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 May 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Mail (OS X). When I moved the page, I started from the Windows side, by moving Mail (Microsoft application) to Mail (Windows). But then, I realized this discussion exists. Further investigation shows that what I did was not in fact a disruption (unwitting) of this discussion; according to Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions, I actually am qualified to close this discussion based on existing predominant scheme that demonstrate consensus. Before this closure, there has been several pages titled Disk Defragmenter (Windows), Chess (OS X), DVD Player (Mac OS), DVD Player (Windows), Contacts (Mac OS), Preview (Mac OS), and so on. Of course, I am open to review by another qualified editor. Codename Lisa (talk) 22:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Mail (application) → Mail (Apple Inc. application) – There is another page called Mail (Microsoft application) (which I created). Apple's Mail application does not have Primary topic over Microsoft's Mail application. There are also several other "Mail applications" published by different companies. CookieMonster755 (talk) 05:25, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think we would not need to include Inc here since I doubt that anyone seeing the term Apple application would think it had anything to do with the fruit. it's the same reason that the article about Georiga in the U.S. civil war does not use Georgia (state) since the country of the same name had no connection to that war.--76.65.42.220 (talk) 17:11, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It would be necessary to add "Inc." to separate it from applications in the Apple ecosystems named "Mail" not from Apple itself. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 01:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, the "Inc." is not needed. "Apple" is sufficient. The other apps can be disambiguated using the company that produced the software. And besides, I think the "Apple ecosystem" is better meant as "OS X ecosystem" or "iOS ecosystem". —seav (talk) 15:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Not sure why but for some reason the external link is to the Russian site. Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 20:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. The second infobox (for iOS Mail) was auto-populating the blank "website" field with wikidata grabbed from www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q212211 — not only the wrong software (OS X Mail) but also out-of-date and in the wrong language, due to the wikidata having been imported from Russian Wikipedia by a bot a couple years ago. Since Apple apparently has no official page for iOS Mail, setting "website" to "hide" in that infobox has suppressed the display of the irrelevant URL. I've also updated the official website URL in the wikidata for OS X Mail to match the URL listed in the first infobox. Thanks for drawing attention to the problem. Cheers, AtticusX (talk) 08:03, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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