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March 21

Category:History of modern European colonialism

Nominator's rationale: while in theory we might split this in Early Modern versus Modern European colonialism, in practice Early Modern and Modern history are lumped together here in one category, which makes the word "modern" in the category name redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WikiTeens

Nominator's rationale: Not a properly named Wikipedian category, membership is time-dependent, unlikely to be populated —swpbT 20:15, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:1456 events by month

Nominator's rationale: The parent category is not so populated that it needs to be diffused. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:January 1456 events

Nominator's rationale: The category has only one entry and the parent category is not so populated that it needs to be diffused. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:49, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:May 1456 events

Nominator's rationale: The category has only one entry and the parent category is not so populated that it needs to be diffused. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:48, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:July 1456 events

Nominator's rationale: The category has only one entry and the parent category is not so populated that it needs to be diffused. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:48, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Southern California

Nominator's rationale: /Delete from subcats which are all under the scheme of Category:People by county in California anyway. It's not helpful to diffuse a handful of biographies for persons who are from a huge region of a huge state. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 07:37, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • do not merge first, there are people articles who are directly in this category besides the subcats; second, this is an obvious subcat of Category:Southern California which has many subcats. Hmains (talk) 03:02, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge There are more than sufficient community and county categories for the region. We don't need even further breakdown....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:23, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment a problem of using various levels of "from" categories for people. In the US, it's almost always State/County/city or town - so that those from a particular city are in that category, which is a sub cat of the county, which is a sub cat of the state. In modern times, people often live in several places and we categorize those of note. In the main this just seems to be a subgrouping of county categories for the counties that comprise Southern California (and including the Greater LA one, which for whatever reason is another subgrouping); why some folks are categorized here seems more because we don't know where more specifically than Southern California someone is from (which begs the question if you have no clue where someone's from, how can a biography be written? But alas, I digress). If this stays I should expect that any geographic area notable enough for its own article will end up having categories like this, whether we want that or not is really what's being discussed with this as a trial balloon. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:15, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, not knowing where exactly people were born or raised is another symptom of a more fundamental problem with all "People from" categories, namely the fact where people are born or raised is hardly ever of encyclopedic value. The key thing is not where people were born or raised, but where they acquired notability. Most biographies who are directly in Category:People from Southern California are here because of birth or being raised and that is not very useful. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:39, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]