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Minaj's birthdate has been discussed here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. The current consensus is to list 1982 as her birthday. Please establish consensus before changing this information.

Feuds

There seems to be a bit of a dispute regarding the "Feuds" section. Over the number of years the section has been brought back then reverted due to false allegations of "controversial matters being integrated within the main article of Nicki Minaj". The questions that continue to be brought up regarding the section's lack of presence center on the disputable notion that other artists like Drake, 50 Cent and Rick Ross have their feuds section available, yet the artist under review (Nicki Minaj) is "specially exempted" from such documentation even if referenced sources are reliable and neutral. Those of a neutral nature may wish to weigh in on why "feuds" has no place, despite the removal of gossip and staple of adequately-sourced references. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 20:18, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

After going back to the discussion about the "Feud" section in the talk page archives I've realized that you were one of the users who participated in that discussion and it was mentioned the reasons why this section should be removed (it violates multiple rules). Based on that discussion, this section violates WP:BALASPS "[an article] should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to the weight of that aspect in the body of reliable sources on the subject", WP:STRUCTURE's guideline to achieve a more neutral text by folding debates into the narrative, rather than isolating them into sections that ignore or fight against each other and WP:UNDUE's requirement for coverage that reflects prevalence in reliable sources. Also, this is a duplicate of information that is already mentioned in the main body. Her fueds with Mariah, Kim, Flex, etc. are already mentioned there so this is excessive. Just include any other further feuds in the main body like the rest of them. Making comparisons to another artist's page seems pointless, especially considering the significant difference in the situation (and content) and explained above. Annvarie (talk) 21:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, I see the inference of Kim and Mariah being featured throughout the page and it is quite understandable why their incorporation within the "feuds" page should be omitted. However, for the sake of neutrality and complimenting one of the main guidelines: there is still an ongoing dispute between the parties of Remy Ma and Minaj, alongside Kim and Minaj. All other trivial nonsense regarding the Cher mention and indie female rappers have been removed.ChocoLantern88 (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So add it to the main body instead of creating a whole entire section with the same content. Annvarie (talk) 21:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've reviewed the entire page and it appears that although the same content regarding Mariah Carey and Flex have been reiterated, a separate section is still in order in reference to the ongoing disputes among the parties of Kim, Remy and Minaj. This supports the guidelines as addressed per other wiki pages like 50 Cent, Rick Ross, Ja Rule, Drake whose respective ongoing controversies are recorded under their feuds listing. All other trivial information has now been removed, while remaining verified matters have been integrated within main article page per guideline request. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I have reviewed your recent edit and noticed the reiteration of Rece Steele was strangely made. Also remaining edit matter does not compliment what was discussed earlier. In accordance to the "WP guideline" that enforces feuds to be made separate if feud is ongoing, it should be fairly considered that the parties among Remy, Kim and Minaj be made within a separate section. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:10, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In what way is the feud between Kim and Minaj ongoing? It's been years since they addressed that beef? Annvarie (talk) 22:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Same applies to the long heated history between other rappers like Ja Rule and 50 Cent yet their expansive history among one another, especially breakdowns of their dispute is made public in a separate section on both their wiki pages. I am not understanding thoroughly what makes Minaj the immediate exception with her dispute with Kim? If a reconciliation has indeed been reached between the pair, then it would be neutral and ethical to insert the nod with a reliable documented source. The other case that is currently being reported with an expansive array of legitimate media outlets is the ongoing dispute between Minaj and Remy Ma. Their dispute as news sources record is in fact still ongoing and a current topic, and references of its coverage have already been integrated. Both scenarios compliment well within the "WP guideline" that was addressed earlier in our discussion, and any other trivial nonsense such as the indie female rappers and "Vinny" allegation has been removed for sake of neutrality and non-one-sided reporting. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the Remy thing but the Kim one makes no sense. Where exactly did you see that rule? Or are you just making stuff up? And why are you adding rumors to the article that were already debunked.Annvarie (talk) 22:31, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Again no need to jump to conclusions. Rumored reports have been subtracted and the placement of verified, reliable sources have been intact. There is only recount to what was discussed in reference to the WP guidelines (BALASPS, STRUCTURE) which were noted earlier in our discussion. In reference to the Kim dispute, it is clear that the pair have had a series of conflicts that was uncovered in reliable sources, which spans for several years. Though it remains uncertain what the immediate nature of their relationship stands now, it would be indisputable in leaving their feud out of Minaj's wiki page especially if it were to be expanded in a separate section given the nature of the many conflicts the two endured. Again reaffirming the neutral stance, their history and the guidelines supporting their feature on Wikipedia is evident in other pages like Rick Ross, DMX, 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Drake, whom have respectively have had their share of conflicts as well and have their feuds made public on their wiki pages in separate sections. I am still not understanding thoroughly from your perspective why Minaj is an exception to this; it clearly defies neutrality status on the coverage of "feuds", especially if it's ongoing AND/OR expansive. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:41, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fair call on the recent edits that have been made towards subsections of the feuds breakdown. After careful consideration it is best to opt out the Kendrick mention since it fell under the pattern of the trivial nonsense as the indie female rappers and Vinny reference. The feuds section is now under fair neutral standing, may it be noted to any contributor that in future time to refrain from adding any form of gossip or rumored content that could misrepresent the fair circumstances of the feuds section. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 23:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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please change the current profile picture to a more recent picture. the current picture is from 5 years ago. the picture below is from a recent video shoot https://static.wonderfulunion.net/groundctrl/clients/nickiminaj/media/00/15/ckeditor/pictures/data/content.4t61udbust0jds4nvgn0fxnzlrkfjme1k59z6k_vdq.jpg Kvnniv (talk) 09:22, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Unless they are clearly licenced as free-use, we have to assume that all images are copyright. Therefore, we cannot use them without breach of copyright, which we will not do - Arjayay (talk) 13:17, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2017

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update profile picture to a more recent picture. Nicki Minaj on SNL in 2014: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rocor/15792392688/ Kvnniv (talk) 01:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: @Kvnniv: The picture must have a free license. The one you linked to is under the CC BY-NC 2.0 license; the non-commercial clause of that license means that it is not free per Wikipedia's standards. —C.Fred (talk) 02:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Please change "Nicki Minaj falsely accused rock musician Steven Tyler and American journalist Barbara Walters as racists" to "Nicki Minaj accused rock musician Steven Tyler and American journalist Barbara Walters as racists". Using "accused" already implies that there is no evidence to back up her claim, so the "falsely" seems biased. Whether or not her claim is valid is entirely subjective. R13n3 (talk) 06:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done Good call. Conforms with WP:POV. Thanks IVORK _Discuss 14:15, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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change the profile picture to a more recent one. Nicki Minaj in Turks and Caicos in 2016: Copyvio image removed Kvnniv (talk) 07:21, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That image is lifted from her Instagram account. Copyright violation. Tagged with a speedy delete. Karst (talk) 07:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the copyvio image pending its deletion - Arjayay (talk) 11:39, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Update the current picture. Nicki Minaj at a Halloween party in 2015 https://www.flickr.com/photos/135504457@N06/22526677430

Not done: Wikipedia articles cannot display externally hosted images. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 06:13, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further, I question whether "hotcelebwallpapers" really owns the image and has released it into the public domain. —C.Fred (talk) 12:49, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Where did onika actually grow IP in ?

Roykuchy (talk) 18:42, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Add "model" as occupation. Reference: ^[1] Gimleey2 (talk) 19:34, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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There should be more than 1 genre

Those 3 genres should be there 2607:FB90:337:EF7D:E818:C4F4:6768:2EE2 (talk) 20:48, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The three genres are hip hop, r&b, pop. Please add those 3 genres 2607:FB90:337:EF7D:E818:C4F4:6768:2EE2 (talk) 22:16, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Nicki Minaj Just Signed a Major Modeling Contract". Vogue. Retrieved 29 March 2017.

[1] "Nicki Minaj Just Signed a Major Modeling Contract". Vogue. Retrieved 29 March 2017.

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