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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Middle 8 (talk | contribs) at 14:00, 16 April 2017 (force TOC). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Contested deletion

Band is comprised of notable musicians and is booking a full national tour at this time. Easily passes music guidelines. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barbara Massey Rogers which may be the motivating factor in the nomination. Also significance is claimed with sources so AFD should be the next choice. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Hell"...I don't like this personal accusation and I would ask that you keep it professional. The speedy deletion tag is strictly related to this article; here are my reasons: "Not notable. Sounds like a news release. Their "debut show" has not even taken place yet. No evidence of record sales, etc.". Furthermore, your response suggests you think they might possibly become notable one day...Zigzig20s (talk) 02:40, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I'll take you at your word that you stumbled on this article shortly after yours was deleted from an AFD started by me. Seems legit. Second the line up is Bill Kreutzmann, Bob Weir, Mickey Hart and John Mayer if you are trying to say that those musicians aren't notable I'll be interested in seeing the AFD. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:43, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The musicians might be, but THIS PAGE is not. Or, prove that it is. Right now, it just sounds like a news release.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:49, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
By all means start the AFD. Significance is claimed with sources so CSD will be declined. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:50, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hell, your behavior is unpleasant. I want nothing to do with you. Others will judge if this sounds like a news release or not. Please leave me alone now.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:12, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting as you engaged me? Hell in a Bucket (talk) 03:14, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

At WP:BAND it says that a band is notable if it "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." The article already cites write-ups in Billboard and Rolling Stone. Dead & Company has also been written about by Associated Press, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Pitchfork, Ultimate Guitar, Consequence of Sound, Billboard again... There's more where that came from too. — Mudwater (Talk) 03:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here's more: Entertainment Weekly, Entertainment Tonight, A.V. Club, Relix, The Guardian, Guitar Player, Jam Base, jambands.com. — Mudwater (Talk) 04:09, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:Mudwater, it wasn't good faith nomination. Wait for the afd. The CSD is a knee jerk reaction. Hopefully they realize what they are doing and the fact that I have offered to help improve the deleted article. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 04:17, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Thanks. I don't want to go overboard here, but some of these stories contain interesting material that can be used in the article. Bay Area News Group, Marin Independent Journal. I'm expecting something insightful in the San Francisco Chronicle too, but it looks like so far they've just published the AP story. — Mudwater (Talk) 04:22, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am stuck between wanting to strangle Phil and understanding he wants a break...GRRR! I wanted so bad to see the Fare thee well shows. Hope that he does a few shows in colorado with them but maybe that;'s just a pipe dream. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 04:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tour Dates

A listing of tour dates and venue strikes me as advertising and does not add to the article about the band. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:40, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If it included a link to purchase tickets I would agree with you. But in this case, I don't. A listing of tour dates and locations is of interest to fans. While that information is available elsewhere, so is everything else in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lowmeadow (talk • contribs) 19:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree that the tour dates do not belong on the artists main page. My reasoning is because no (or at least none I have seen) other bands have all of the tour dates they have performed on their pages. Having said that, if someone wants to create an article for the tour itself, that is another story. (talk) 02:00, 9 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.209.32.185 (talk) [reply]

I have removed the tour dates on the artist's main page but I created a seperate article for the tour itself and moved them there. sk8punk3d288 (talk) 20:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Are Burbridge and Chimenti members?

As far as I can tell, this article (version) has become the only source on the web (apart from mirrors and the like) that explicitly says the band has four members. That's the result of these two edits, which are based on the editor's reading of the band's website, which lists Hart, Kreutzmann, Mayer and Weir first, followed by "with Oteil Burbridge and Jeff Chimenti". While this listing suggests that the latter two may be in a different category than the more famous first four, we have no reason to assume that the only two possible categories are "member" and "non-member". Further, the three sources cited don't support the claim, and the third one explicitly contradicts it, saying DeadCo includes all six. Here are four more sources saying the same: CBS News, Rolling Stone, Al.com, and Livenation (press release, likely originating with the band itself). In light of the above, both edits need to be undone, which I'll do now. Happy editing, Middle 8 (t • c | privacy • COI) 13:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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