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First shots?

Union attempts to resupply and reinforce the garrison were repulsed on January 9, 1861 when the first shots of the war, fired by cadets from the Citadel, prevented the steamer Star of the West, hired to transport troops and supplies to Fort Sumter, from completing the task.

Why are these not generally quoted as the first shots of the war, instead of the attack on April 12th? Valetude (talk) 15:35, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because no general war followed the repulse of the Star of the West; the ship simply retired and President Buchanan took no further action. It was in April 1861 that the Confederate leadership made the decision to bombard the United States troops in Fort Sumter and begin the war. Beanbag82 (talk) 06:01, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Second Battle of Fort Sumter

The Federal government formally took possession of Fort Sumter on February 22, 1865 with a flag raising ceremony. One Union soldier was killed and another Union soldier was mortally wounded during the surrender ceremony (see above). Fifty two Confederate soldiers were killed there during the remainder of the war. While a number of slaves were killed while working at the fort, the exact number is unknown.

It is not made clear that these are total casualties from both the battles of Fort Sumter. Valetude (talk) 16:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"retake"?

Your correspondent 65.197.28.158 enquired on 30 June 2008: 'I am confused by the line "Union efforts to retake Charleston Harbor began on April 7, 1863". When had Union forces previously taken the harbor? Probably "retake" is a mistake but since I know nothing of the history, I thought I would ask.

Union forces had not previously re-taken the harbor. The United States Army occupied it until it was surrendered to the Confederates in April 1861. Valetude (talk) 14:48, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fort Sumter is called the start of the Civil War. If the governor had said let them have it, I suspect the war would have started some other way,time. If Lincoln as really as hot for preserving the Union, he could have found another way to goad the south into action ( to have the north look like they were attacked was preferable) or he may have just attacked - but the northern public may have been less receptive. 73.149.116.253 (talk) 14:14, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Does this entry relate to some other section? I don't see how it refutes (or even relates to) my own entry above. Valetude (talk) 23:14, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For the record-books

One Union soldier died and another was mortally wounded

Presumably these were the first Union deaths of the war - on operational service, even though not in action. Are their names known? Valetude (talk) 13:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm entirely perplexed by the footnote references to "Elliot" in dealing with the events leading to and including the First Battle of Fort Sumter. There are six "Elliot" notes with page numbers but without any bibliographic information. Is this a published book or some primary source? These are useless notes. Furthermore, the "Primary sources" lists a source as Elliott, Stephen, Jr. (1902). "Detailed report, September 12, 1863" from the _Official Records of the Union and Confederate Navies in the War of the Rebellion_, is this the supposed source on the First Battle? Stephen Elliott was the Confederate Commander of Fort Sumter during the Second Battle and had nothing to do with the First Battle and submitted no reports on it. So, how is he a "source" for the First Battle? The source given is his report on the Second Battle. Beanbag82 (talk) 06:11, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]