Talk:Antoine Lavoisier

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Page width

Can anyone do something about the excess width of this page? I can't print it properly (unless I go to landscape mode) and this seems to be the only Wikipedia page like that. - 64.26.98.90 15:51, 25 February 2002

Fixed --maveric149 00:23, 1 March 2002

Thanks. There turn out to be a few others like that but that one had been the most egregious. - 64.26.98.90 07:42, 8 March 2002

"The Republic has no need of savants"

Jean-Pierre Poirier (Lavoisier, Pygmalion, 1993) thinks this quotation is apocryphal. Poirier also gives more detail about Mme Lavoisier's role as a scientific assistant and also how she may have contributed inadvertently to his execution by openly showing her contempt for the mistress of a high revolutionary official who could have pardoned him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.239.153.16 (talk • contribs) 20 Dec 2005.

Madison Smartt Bell is professor of English and director of the Kratz Center for Creative Writing at Goucher College in Maryland. His most recent book is a nonfiction biography of pioneering chemist Antoine Lavoisier, Lavoisier in the Year One: The Birth of a New Science in an Age of Revolution (W. W. Norton, 2005).

"Geology"

I do know Lavoisier had some very important contributions to geology. Can anybody contribute to this article in regards to this - Dominic Hollands —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.140.43.124 (talk • contribs) 15 December 2006.

=L, AND H=HUBBLE PAREMATER

L'=L({\frac {L}{3H}}-H)

CORRECTION MADE!!!!!!!!!!

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Antoine as a uniquely capable "self-promoter"

This line in the introduction is, at best, sloppy. We have the claim that Antoine is widely considered the father of modern chemistry, but then a counterclaim that the label is, in fact, a result of his capacity for self-promotion. The first is clearly demonstrable to be objectively true (indeed, many give Antoine unique significance in the history of chemistry). The second, however, is not. The idea that the label is undeserved has some grounding, but it's a mere interpretation of history, and it shouldn't be said with the same authoritative voice. It's also unfitting to pass as objective fact that Antoine's self-promotion is the primary source of the label, and to pass as objective fact that the implication of the label is to diminish other chemists.

It is a discussion worth giving some focus in the article, but not in this manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.112.97.2 (talk) 04:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have now made the language of this sentence more neutral by changing is to has been recently described as. Trying to follow the advice of WP:NPOV, especially the line Avoid stating opinions as facts. Dirac66 (talk) 18:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Besoin

Misleading/rhetorical - "The Republic has no need of scientists or chemists; the course of justice cannot be delayed."

This is a mistranslation of 'besoin' in a possessive sense, which can be interpretted as 'lack of', not 'need'. This greatly alters the connotation of the text.

Furthermore, it is stated in the citation at the bottom that this phrase wast most likely never uttered (or in my understanding, a mistranslation at the very least). This however, is not mentioned in the body of the article. 65.92.117.40(talk) 23:18, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This reference needs to be cleared up (misleading) to reflect a need (or lack of). This is simply a failure of a translation of the word 'besoin' in context. Check your dictionaries (don't rely on a single biased source/citation). The actual citation is of an English translation, and thus most likely politically motivated to discredit the revolution, on account of British support for the Divine Rights of Kings. 70.49.90.159 (talk) 13:01, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

French Revolution

The article creates the incorrect impression that all of Lavoisier's scientific endeavour dated from before the Revolution. In fact his work on the metric system was done for the Revolutionary government. I have also removed the sentence 'As the French Revolution gained momentum from 1789 on, Lavoisier's world inexorably collapsed around him' as it is unsupported by references, and replaced it with a new article section on the French Revolution describing what he did during this period.

Selling adulterated tobacco

This article indicates that Lavoisier was accused by Marat of selling adulterated tobacco. I have not found any source to support this. Perhaps it was one of a list of general accusations made against the Farmers General rather than Lavoisier in particular?Mccapra (talk) 19:58, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The section entitled "during the revolution" might be expanded, by referencing some of Lavoisier's personal political correspondences. This section could benefit from an exemplification of how some of Lavoisier's contemporaries reacted to his removal from the commission on weights and measures, as this would further illustrate some of the political viewpoints expressed during this revolutionary time period.Analiese Batchelor (talk) 21:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]