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"no reference here to persons, only parties and factions"
I find it ironic that BLPCRIME is invoked to remove references to crimes committed by "followers," "two NCLC organizers," and "two NCLC organizers," but when we refer to identifiable living person "Mark Rudd's faction," at Columbia "assaulting" people, all of a sudden "no reference here to persons, only parties and factions," BLPCRIME no longer applies. Perhaps a double standard? Hipocrite (talk) 08:42, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- It was clearly improper to implicitly link Rudd to the violence. The book does, appear, to state that Rudd did head one "faction" so the claims had to be delinked per WP:BLP. Cheers. Collect (talk) 12:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- I have removed Mark Rudd's name. I had thought that the criteria for BLPCRIME was saying that a person was arrested, but after taking a second look I see that I was mistaken. It just says "accused of a crime." It also says nothing about persons being "identifiable," just living.
- I started a discussion of BLPCRIME and this article at the BLP noticeboard. Since we still need to reduce the section per the earlier Request for Comment, taking out the allegations of crime where there were no convictions seems to me to be a good place to be reducing. Waalkes (talk) 21:28, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. Cla68 (talk) 12:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- I started a discussion of BLPCRIME and this article at the BLP noticeboard. Since we still need to reduce the section per the earlier Request for Comment, taking out the allegations of crime where there were no convictions seems to me to be a good place to be reducing. Waalkes (talk) 21:28, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- I have removed Mark Rudd's name. I had thought that the criteria for BLPCRIME was saying that a person was arrested, but after taking a second look I see that I was mistaken. It just says "accused of a crime." It also says nothing about persons being "identifiable," just living.
are some of the LaRouche supporters actually Democrats?
[1] Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, speaking in a Manhattan neighborhood where supporters of Lyndon H. LaRouche have campaigned for local offices, chastised the Democratic Party yesterday for accepting Mr. LaRouche's followers as legitimate participants in party affairs.
[2] Local Democratic leaders here spent the day trying to explain how a supporter of Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr., the extremist politician, was elected Tuesday as chairman of the Harris County Democratic Party
[3] But Ms. Rogers, a follower of the controversial activist Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr., says she is in the race “to restore the principles of Franklin Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy to the Democratic Party.”
I know some do not "like" it, but the fact is that LaRouche has members who have been nominees and officeholders in the Democratic Party, and who politically identify themselves as Democrats. Wikipedia has reliable sources for such a claim, unless the New York Times is no longer reliable <g>. Cheers. Collect (talk) 00:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, the sources do support that LaRouche followers do usually participate as Democratic Party candidates, at least, recently. Cla68 (talk) 00:52, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Kesha Rogers won the Democratic Congressional Primary in Houston, Texas this year for the the second time in a row. So the question is, who decides who can be a Democrat? Party bureaucrats, or the rank and file?
Examiner?
Apparently examiner.com is considered a bad source for Wikipedia? Anyone know why? If an exception can be made for a particular page, this article could be useful here: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=%22Banking+on+Congress,+%E2%80%98Week+of+Action%E2%80%99+begins+Monday+in+D.C.%22&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest (this is the only way I can manage to put a link here. Someone must really dislike the Examiner.)
Joe Bodacious (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- http://www.sfweekly.com/2007-12-05/news/blogos-free/ is a good read for why the examiner.com is a bad source.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 00:13, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- People coming from Examiner.com created a huge mess on Wikipedia some years back when they were spamming Examiner links into many, many articles. It turned out that they were trying to get more eyeballs on their articles because they were then paid more by advertisers. That practice left Wikipedia with a very scornful attitude toward the blogging website, aside from the obvious problem that there is no editorial oversight.
- Regarding the linked article by Kenric Ward, called "Banking on Congress, ‘Week of Action’ begins Monday in D.C.", published this time last year, I don't see any compelling reason to try and get the blacklist lifted. The only thing it says about LaRouchism is that Paul Gallagher, LaRouchite economics editor, thinks that Glass–Steagall Legislation should be restored for a healthy American economy. Gallagher's views are not analyzed—they are presented verbatim—so this is a primary source. Binksternet (talk) 02:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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