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Legality

The lede of this article states that "child pornography is illegal in most but not all nations." However this seems overly vague in that it could mean either possession or distribution. I looked at the cited source and did not see any discussion of overall global statistics, though on page 12 there was a paragraph about Western societies. According to a 2008 study it seems possible this statement is actually wrong as only 58 known countries had laws on possession (see the main article's talk page). —Rehoboam (talk) 08:59, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Map

The article tells a very different tale from the map, which would lead one to believe that child pornography is legal in most of Africa, Russia and most of the former Soviet Union, as well as a good chunk of South America and Southeast Asia. 75.158.37.149 (talk) 14:18, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The map, I think it's the same map, is basically just a bunch of randomly colored countries. Very little accuracy, and it contradicts the content of this article in many places. I'm removing it (again). Grayfell (talk) 07:50, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have re-added the map with errors solved --Lorenzo Fiocco (talk) 19:25, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistent information

The article says "However, Simulated child pornography remains to be legal everywhere in the US.", yet in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_child_pornography , it states that "Any realistic appearing computer generated depiction that is indistinguishable from a depiction of an actual minor in sexual situations or engaging in sexual acts is illegal under 18 U.S.C. § 2252A. Drawings, cartoons, sculptures, and paintings of minors in sexual situations that do not pass the Miller test were made illegal under 18 U.S.C. § 1466A."

Can somebody please get a definitive answer and make all articles show consistent information? I know that the bits of the PROTECT act, including, "a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting" were ruled to be unconstitutional in the Handley case. 71.75.130.191 (talk) 03:47, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Someone went to jail for it, so I don't think it's a mystery. Recently an individual who hosts child pornography in the US made the statement it was legal, and many of the site's visitors are probably editing articles to support his views. --OKNoah (talk) 04:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The truth is, there is no definitive answer. This law has been applied in only a handful of cases, usually involving people who also possessed actual child porn. What we do know is that several prominent websites allow users to freely upload and share this cartoon "child pornography" without any legal rammifications. The fact that the FBI has not shut down a site like Gelbooru, for instance, suggests that any law against the content is not actively enforced. However, if you go directly to the cops and confess that you store cartoon porn of the Powerpuff Girls or whatever, maybe they'll give you an obscenity charge. So the simple answer is "yes", but this answer gives no information about the law's enforcement and constitutional validity, so it's very misleading. 195.191.165.5 (talk) 03:03, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Guyana has "illegal" in green and "legal" in red.23.122.254.175 (talk) 15:09, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the "All formsdone.child pornography are illegal under the accordance of EU law."-edits

Not all countries have implemented these laws and fictional child pornography remains legal in some EU member countries. It's preposterous to assume all EU laws are implemented in every member state. An implementation of the cited EU-law regarding legality of fictional child pornography to not require the material to be realistic or based on real life was proposed in Finland in 2010, but not realised. [1] I will not make it my task to revert erroneous edits and research which countries actually have implemented these law changes, but I propose it is Seqqis who should fix damage done and conduct proper research before such major overhauls in the future. 93.106.103.81 (talk) 11:11, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

93.106.103.81, There were no links relating to Finland's exempt to EU law, and there was no damage done. Seqqis (talk) 08:38, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
By damage done I mean your edit claiming all EU-countries implemented this, something that I know to be false.93.106.126.25 (talk) 19:21, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, no damage was done. The reference added to all the EU countries in the table states that "Under European Union law, online child pornography is regulated as illegal material that violates human rights."Seqqis (talk) 07:40, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The current state of the article claims Finland to be the only member country of the European Union to have exceptions in- or ambiguous laws regarding virtual child pornography; this is false. There have been several cases in Europe, a few of them stated in Legal status of drawn pornography depicting minors. Furthermore, I have never heard of the European Union sanctioning any of its member countries for this, nor it ever being enforced. --91.150.33.41 (talk) 01:27, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
May I add that in your cited source, the author "presumes" that all forms of child pornography are illegalised. Later, unless I missed something, they state that the European Union's stance "includes realistic images of a non-existent child involved or engaged in sexually explicit conduct" which makes it exclude drawings that are clearly mere drawings. Could you clarify where you got the idea that the European Union has banned all forms of virtual child pornography? There is a statement of this at page 2 but the author later contradtics themself. --91.150.33.41 (talk) 01:52, 13 March 2017 (UTC) Edit. 91.150.33.41 (talk)[reply]
  1. ^ "17 luku - 18 § Sukupuolisiveellisyyttä loukkaavan kuvan levittäminen (Finnish)". Retrieved 2015-09-27.

Term left undefined

What is "fictional" child porn? There is no Wikipedia page on it. I suggest someone who knows what it is define it with written examples in contrast to what real child porn is. 2601:601:8302:7B30:2430:C54F:7171:5262 (talk) 21:33, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The term "fictional" has been clarified by Finnish internet police officer Marko Forss, albeit in Finnish[1]. He defines the 2011-addition to the law, adding the term fictional, as it not having been produced through photography or through image-manipulation to appear indistinguishably realistic. "Factual" child pornogeraphy is exactly as stated in the article, pornography produced through any means depicting an act of sexual child abuse that actually took place. Forss also reminds that drawings and animations of child pornography that fit neither of these criteria, for example in entirely fictional manga, are indeed legal. --91.150.33.41 (talk) 01:27, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 November 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved with support (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk) 01:23, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Laws regarding child pornography → Legality of child pornography – The title format ought to be consistent with the rest or majority of similar Wikipedia articles. For most other areas of law that differ from nation to nation, the format is "Legality of X". For examples, see: legality of cannabis and legality of euthanasia. "Legal status of X" would also work. Michipedian (talk) 18:49, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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israel

in israel regular pornography is legal so can someone change it in table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.66.88.71 (talk) 15:39, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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