Talk:Gloria Steinem

Gloria Steinem has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
November 2, 2014	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
November 22, 2014	Good article nominee	Listed
December 9, 2014	Featured article candidate	Not promoted

Current status: Good article

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Biography: Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

United States: Ohio Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Ohio portal This article is supported by WikiProject Ohio.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Feminism High‑importance

	Feminism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Feminism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Feminism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FeminismWikipedia:WikiProject FeminismTemplate:WikiProject FeminismFeminism
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Journalism

	Journalism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Journalism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of journalism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JournalismWikipedia:WikiProject JournalismTemplate:WikiProject JournalismJournalism
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Women's History Low‑importance

	History portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women's HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject Women's HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Women's HistoryWomen's History
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Women writers Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women writers, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of women writers on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women writersWikipedia:WikiProject Women writersTemplate:WikiProject Women writersWomen writers
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on March 25, 2017.

Archives

1

Dead Links

I found that there were a few dead links in the references, specifically links 80 and 85. I'm not going to delete them because I am using a computer with quite a few filters that may affect the page showing, but somebody should look into it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.125.38.209 (talk) 03:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removed ELs

I removed these ELs because I think they violate WP:EL, but several of them could possibly be used as inline references, so I am pasting them here. It might also be appropriate to submit some ofthem to the Open Directory Project to have a directory for her created, which could then be linked to from the EL section with Template:dmoz to avoid the EL section getting too long or arbitrary again.

Novaseminary (talk) 18:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Positions laundry list

It seems that decontextualizing Steinem's stances on various hot-button feminist issues does a disservice to readers. I propose that this section be divided temporally, so that, for example, her early work in the anti-pornography movement comes before her statements on same-sex marriage and that the former be more fleshed out since it is more fundamental to her thought than the marriage issue, which appears to be merely a statement of opinion on current events and not a significant area of her activism and writing. (This is just an illustrative example.) Any thoughts? --Danger (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me. Kaldari (talk) 07:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like it the way it is; I think it's easier to follow. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The way it is now says little about pornography. How are pictures of two people having, say, reciprocal oral sex, common in many porn mags, not an example of reciprocity.24.36.54.238 (talk) 22:57, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gloria Steinem and gay rights

I know Steinem has been interested in this issue for a long time, so we should probably include more than just the current blurb on gay marriage. I'll see if I can dig up some sources. Here's one to start with: "And on the question of lesbianism: we have to make lesbianism an honorable choice, because until it is, all women who don't conform will be held back by this word. But there's something much deeper—the politicization of sexuality—which says that all sex that doesn't take place inside patriarchal marriage and isn't directed toward having children is wrong. That's what the right wing is saying. They're very clear and we have to get clarity on our side. Our common cause comes from our mutual need to depoliticize sexuality, to free it." —"Let's Get Real about Feminism: The Backlash, the Myths, the Movement", Ms. Magazine, Volume IV, Number 2, 1993. Kaldari (talk) 04:46, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you can get some sources it would be great to include it. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Transexualism

After reading through the original source cited for the Transexualism section, I have to say that our description of her views is a bit skewed. The quotes we use seem to be cherry picked to make it sound like she hates transexuals. Her actual views seem to be far more nuanced, and more a criticism of gender roles than transexuals. Two of the quotes weren't even accurate and one of them was completely misleading (as it was Steinem characterizing the views of others). I've corrected the most glaring problems, but the section still needs work to present a balanced picture of her views. Does anyone have any opinions about any of the existing wording? Would anyone object if I rewrite some of it? Also, does anyone know of more recent sources to use for this topic? The current material is mostly from 1977, which is pretty old. Considering how prolific a writer Steinem is, I'm sure she must have written something else on the topic more recently. Kaldari (talk) 05:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mothers Mental Illness and Patriarchy.

In a recent CBC radio interview, 2012, Gloria was asked about her relationship with her mother, to which she responded she had a close one.

The radio announcer, (Maria Tremonti) then presented her with the fact that her mother suffered from mental illness, and that she had, as a young girl been forced to look after her, she responded, "my mother's mental illness was patriarchy".

Perhaps the significance of Gloria's difficult early life in having to nurse a sick mother, and a father who left the family had a significant effect on Gloria's perspective of family. --174.5.39.86 (talk) 09:53, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps, but you'll have to get some sources before you include it. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How's that North Korean peace march going and why not the typical WQ link?

A quick search gave me this Gloria Steinem’s North Korea Peace Walk Draws Ire Despite Lack of Any Better Ideas.24.36.54.238 (talk) 20:38, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA reassessment

The lede is way too short for an article of this stature—it should be doing a whole lot more summary (especially for "good article" status) czar 05:22, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Weird writing

The last paragraph at Early Life loos weird (I have since changed the first part).

"Steinem attended Waite High School in Toledo and Western High School in Washington, D.C." the latter of which she graduated from. I have changed this already.
"She then attended Smith College, an institution with which she continues to remain engaged, and from which she graduated Phi Beta Kappa." It is one thing to become a member of Phi Beta Kappa, but to say that she "graduated Phi Beta Kappa" sounds as if this how well she did, on par with "cum laude", "summa cum laude" etc.

Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 16:25, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Gloria Steinem. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:50, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2017 - Gloria Steinem - "Original Research" feeding not-so-subtle smear job?

It is requested that an edit be made to the semi-protected article at Gloria Steinem. (edit · history · last · links · protection log)

This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".

The edit may be made by any autoconfirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

110.22.7.108 (talk) 11:39, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]