User talk:とある白い猫/Archive/2006/09

User talk:Cool Cat/Archive/2005/06/Comment

reply : always saladin eyyubi is kurdish all eurepens public know that... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.226.3.38 (talk • contribs)

In the future, please do not edit archives and instead post your comments on my talk page.

What is this post refering to? What are you talking about?

--Cat out 07:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Star Trek rank insignia speedies

You've marked quite a few Star Trek rank insignia images for speedy deletion, but the reason you give is not a valid criteria for speedy deletion. What you should do is add {{NowCommons}} to the image page instead. Pagrashtak 17:30, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its a "common sense" delete. WP should not be a burocracy should it? --Cat out 17:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images with identical copies on Commons must be marked for seven days prior to deletion. Take it up at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion if you want to change the rules. Pagrashtak 17:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I Already have. I just wish you werent soo burocratic. :) --Cat out 17:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Test Wiki

You say I was experimenting with your user page? No.... :\ And even though you say you deleted my images in the Test Wiki, the images are still there. Hint: go here. Stalin.P҉G 22:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only in your chache. Try hitting ctrl+F5 (ie/firefox). Test wiki exists only for developers to work on wikimedia software, not for your ammusement and is certainly not your webhost. --Cat out 22:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, really. I am using a different computer this time than the one I updated. Stalin.P҉G 22:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just refresh your chache. Its not there. --Cat out 22:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pressing F5... CTRL+F5... SHIFT+F5... hmmm... it's gone now! Hmmm... but there's something strange... I'll leave it to you to figure out. Don't you just hate those deletionists? Stalin.PoG 22:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipe-tan mopping

Hi, Cool Cat. Thank you for the message in my user page.

Reading your message, I drew the mopping version of Wikipe-tan. Use it freely if it is useful for your purpose. --Kasuga 16:39, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image updated

Hi, thank you for the updating the counter vandalism image on my it.wiki user page! :) --Jacopo86 18:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Nice to meet you.How are you to day.Me I'm fine.I was wondering how do you do a project. Please get back to me at Bobby Black

Kurdistan Workers Party

Careful with the edit summaries, dont raise tentions. :) --Cat out 20:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, I got the idea from a user who tried to rewrite the article, but ended up actually deleting 90% of it. I'll be more careful in the future. :) —Khoikhoi 20:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

^_^. Say you interested in anime at all? --Cat out 20:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. ;-) —Khoikhoi 20:35, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? :P --Cat out 20:42, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, don't you think "armed militant" sounds sorta redundant? Of course the PKK is armed. —Khoikhoi 20:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, it is pointing the obvious for a person who knows what PKK is, but when BBC for instance report it as an "armed millitant" group. "Armed" basicaly points out that they are not like your average political party. Not imperative, but certainly cant hurt to have it. :) --Cat out 20:42, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point, sounds good to me. —Khoikhoi 20:48, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Encephalon Cross.png

I came accross this at random and was wondering if the Star of life symbol would be much better than the red cross for the reasons spesified at Star of life article perhaps. --Cat out 18:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cool Cat,

The Cross is simply a personal 'award' I grant on occassion to editors who have made excellent contributions to medical articles. I am aware that there has been some interest recently in instituting a more formal barnstar-type award for the same purpose; I have no objections to the use of the Star of Life, the EC, or any other image for that award. Regards —Encephalon 10:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I was merely suggesting, (I just feel star of life is cuter). Star of life itself looks like a barnstar. --Cat out 20:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

My heartfelt gratitude for that totally undeserved barnstar. Cheers me up on a grumpy Monday morning! JFW | T@lk 09:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Cool Cat/Sep11/Yeah I agree...

... --Cat out 09:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't think of anything to say that would be appropriate, so I just have some dates. Best wishes.--MONGO 09:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to use that template btw. --Cat out 09:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Thank you for your Barnstar award. It is most appreciated. — RJH (talk) 14:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Ruzgar

I do not see any racist slurs and etc at this diff. The page protection is unwarranted in my opinion (strictly based on that diff, didnt look too deep). He is also complaining about his block.

I'll translate the discussion on that diff for you (I will overly simplify it too). Basicaly Ruzgar's inclusion of the POV image was a reaction to the existance of similar images on Armenian Genocide. He was violating WP:POINT in that sense.

Regarding the incident: While I agree that Kurdistan Workers Party article should not have such pov images, I further feel same standard should be applied to Armenian Genocide and other similar articles.

--Cat out 23:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact is, not only did the user continuously and knowingly disrupted that article with that image, and even after being blocked, encouraged others to continue in his stead. That's what I consider trolling. --InShaneee 17:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even so, his ISP has a semi-dynamic ip so the block is causing collateral damage. I am not compaining about the existance of the block, I am complaining about the length of the block. I also feel that the protection of the talk page is unnecesary. After all, he can simply IRC/email for that, this only prevents me from talking to him.

I feel the user is frustrated with his inability to work on Armenian Genocide article (a frustration I share) and that this WP:POINT violation is steming from that. I feel what he seeks is right (removal of pov images from Armenian Genocide article), just that his method is completely wrong (attempt to force pov images to Kurdistan Workers Party article).

--Cat out 22:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

9/11 wiki

Hi Cool Cat. I see you filed bugzilla:7280 to get the 9/11 wiki closed down, but the devs are stalling again. The way I see it, there are several different levels of action, ranging from locking the wiki and leaving it up as a read-only database, to totally deleting it and all the data on it. The question is, which option do the majority of those who have voted for something to be done (themselves an overwhelming majority) favor? Here are the main options as I see them:

Lock the database and make the wiki read-only, but leave it up there for everyone to read indefinitely. This is definitely better than the status quo, whereby the wiki is described by many of the voters in the latest poll as a "vandal's playground", "troll magnet" etc.
Archive the content and get rid of the wiki. There seems to be a lot of support for this. If implemented, this would mean that anyone trying to visit the site would get a 404 or a notice directing them to somewhere where they could download the archive. The Wikimedia Foundation would make the content available for download for others to make use of under the GFDL.
Delete the whole thing and don't even bother making an archive available. This would be as much as we could do to dissociate Wikipedia's good name from such an embarrassment as the 9/11 wiki. MemoryWiki has apparently got the content already, so actually the information wouldn't be lost at all.

From Bugzilla I see that Brion has unilaterally decided, seemingly regardless of the wishes of the community, that he won't delete it unless there's a legal problem. In that case it might be much less of a struggle to just get him to make it read only, but really from a content preservation point of view, if you're going to do that you might as well shut down the wiki and make its database available as a download. Looking at the vote, I can see a lot of people, many of them well-respected and famous Wikipedians such as Angela, calling for the wiki to be "archived", "closed", "removed", "deleted" or "gone". I think the consensus would definitely support something more than just locking the database. It's not so much that people want the work that people have contributed to the 9/11 wiki undone (although the vast majority is useless, as it has never become more than a dumping ground), but that they don't want it associated with Wikipedia, which is supposed to be all about NPOV, accuracy, factual material, etc. At the very least it needs to lose that old Wikipedia logo, so that no readers can be under the impression that such an embarrassment is part of Wikipedia. It would be great if you could reply to Brion over on Bugzilla with some definite proposal of what he should do, where the consensus for such an action would be clear from the vote that's been held on Meta, as well as all the other endless discussions, so that he could go ahead and do it. I just wish him or the board, who seem so remote from the community these days, could read the polls and discussions, or even just the comments I've made here, and see that this nonsense has gone on far too long. Thanks a lot and all the best. Andreyi 16:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

9/11 wiki had always been intended to be the dumpspace of non encyclopedic 9/11 stuff that just was plauging wikipedia at its infant stages. Since the "threat" has passed it can be sent to wiki-hell/heaven/afterlife/ragnorak/(whatever).

Devs generaly try to avoid drasric actions. There are a number of reasons and I am not going to get indulged with it. He is just being careful.

I guess the issue should be taken to the board, after all this will be the first time a wiki will be deleted/closed.

--Cat out 17:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you and I know Brion is just being careful, but I think it needs pointing out to him that there is a community consensus, expressed many times in many places, for at the very least locking the database and changing the name and logo. I hope you'll at least point this out on Bugzilla and direct Brion to some of the discussions such as this one and the meta vote, because I seem to be unable to sign up for an account over there. Thanks. Andreyi 17:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brion has me on ignore on IRC so I'd rather not even talk to him right now. Ignoring him back seems to be the most constructive thing I feel I can do. You are however welcome to post anything on bugzilla. --Cat out 17:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Master world map

I dont know if you can but I'd like to have an empty world map with this level of detail. The current blank map is also geographicaly inacurate (Russian - Alaskan connection would be welcome). What would you think of such an idea? --Cat out 09:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that at the moment, I'm not able to do anything much with regards to images — I'm currently living in a country where many of Wikipedia's servers are blocked, including the ones which seem to handle image files — even viewing an image takes work, and I can't find any way at all to upload things. As such, I can't actually do anything about the images now.

However, I'm not sure I could help in any case — the map you pointed to comes from a special map of the Caribbean — I'm afraid I don't have a global map of the same detail. The distance between Russia and Alaska is a bit more complicated — it's an artifact of the projection system used. The map is actually supposed to be an oval shape rather than a rectangle, and when seen without its oval border, the white space which is supposed to be "off the map" looks like it's actually sea, which causes things to seem distorted. If I had known that the map would be used for the things that it is, I might have chosen a different projection, but the original map was merely meant to be a base for smaller maps to be cut out of (the little locator maps on each country's page). Changing the map from an oval one to a rectangular one would require redrawing the whole thing, and I don't have the necessary tools where I currently live — and someone else would do a far better job anyway, I'm sure.

So... sorry, but I can't actually do anything right now. If the problems still exist when I get back to my own country, where I'm able to actually do something, maybe I can take a look.

-- Vardion 06:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see...

You can email it (any image) to me and I can upload it for you :)
I realise that but on some maps (not the ones on wikipedia), I observed that alaska is simply being drawn twice, or asia is placed left and the americas to the right of the map (as the atlantic is mosty vacant of any island countries).
Did you drew the Caribbean map yourself or via a tool?

I have no reason to rush the matter. I can even wait a full year. I'd rather wait for the pro :) Oh and google for HTTP-tunnel may suprisingly take care of most of your problems.

--Cat out 09:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looking over things, I'm afraid I probably don't have the right software to do anything much yet. I drew the maps myself, but with the aid of various graphics programs, and using some detailed digital maps for reference — out here, I don't have either available. Nor do I have much ability to obtain and install things on the computer I'm currently using (I access the internet through my work). So I'm afraid that anything I do will have to wait until I'm back home, whenever that is. (Thanks for the suggestion regarding HTTP tunnels, though — I'll look into it). -- Vardion 05:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In many laguages

You're welcome :) even though I don't remember doing that. — $PЯINGεrαgђ 18:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Same here (: --Quinlan Vos 20:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdish flag

Thanks! I wasn't aware of this happening—I've done a few fix-ups. —Khoikhoi 18:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Ozgurgerilla

I gave a warning on civility and personal attacks (and overal other nonsense). That is hardly nothing. I am required to give two warnings ({{npa2}}, {{npa3}}) before I can request admin intervention. --Cat out 05:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His concern is that you didn't warn neurobio at all... —Khoi khoi 05:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not obligated to warn anyone. I just noticed Ozgurgerilla's post and reacted to it. Feel free to warn him (other person) if you feel it is for the better of wikipedia. Just, do not encourage Ozgurgerilla's behaviour. --Cat out 05:17, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really feel like warning him, Pişîka Xasûk. —Khoi khoi 05:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly how I feel... --Cat out 05:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. Besdies that, how have you been recently? —Khoi khoi 05:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well was mostly busy with Oh My Goddess! Soundtracks, CVU deletion thing, meta:Wikimania 2007/Istanbul, and commons:COM:DEL. A bit fatigued with all that but overal ok. You? --Cat out 05:49, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trying not to get distracted by Wikipedia from real life work. :) —Khoi khoi 05:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Real life? What is that? Cite sources for its existance! :P --Cat out 05:53, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hehehe. :p —Khoi khoi 05:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there,

Coolcat could you take a look at this page? I think it is pretty biased: "Assyrians in Turkey" -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.101.58.142 (talk • contribs)

Appears so. Investigating. --Cat out 16:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

tagalog translation for cool cat

thanks for stopping by my talk page im must apologize, but i kinda messed up the html table heres the right one...

tagalog ---> ayos na pusa ----> a fine cat or an okay cat

†Bloodpack† ^argh! 14:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks ok to me, try refreshing the page. :) --Cat out 16:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: User:Cool Cat/In many languages...

You're welcome, sorry for taking so long. =) --Nkcs 18:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I was wondering how do you get awards on this site.I realy wan't an award to prove that I can do anything if I put my mind to it.

Thanks,your wikipedian Bobby Black 12:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there are no offical "awards" on wikipedia. There are however unofficial barnstars which you can "earn" by simply editing. There are no solid criteria to be awarded. Basicaly someone should "award" you the barnstar... Barnstars are no big deal, keep that in mind. :) --Cat out 18:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Talk: Jerle0

Thanks for the welcome notice. I've used wikipedia for a while now but I figure there are a few places I can contribute to...seems the AMG project is one of the places you hover around (and from the looks of it, created large portions of it...amazing body of work you've got there) so we'll likely cross paths from time to time. --Jerle0 18:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like that :) It is overwhelming for a single person to handle the AMG serries. --Cat out 19:04, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

images on commons

Hi, I would ask you to have a look to my response on that site - thanks --Mandavi 12:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I responded to you at same place. --Cat out 13:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

israel

hii,

why dont you want to visite in the state of israel? there is a litle different between israel to iran, iraq or Saudi Arabia...

someone from the hebrew language wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.154.161.61 (talk • contribs)

Iraq will likely suffer a civil war that may last decades at this rate.

Saudi Arabia has been hostile to foreigners (and their own citizens for that matter) for decades.

Iran isn't exactly safe either, too many islamist extrimists that wont go away any time soon.

As per recent war in lebanon, things may get out of control in Israel. I don't trust Hezbollah and their call for peace so when they strike, I'd rather not be anywhere near the crossfire. Once it gets relatively safe/stable, I'd like to be there. I have nothing against the state though. --Cat out 18:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for the answer. the people of israel doesn't trust Hezbollah, too. (-: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.154.161.61 (talk • contribs)

Reply

I'd rather not...I'm pretty busy right now. sorry. :( —Khoi khoi 04:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Islam

The threads here were what came about merely the last time such a change was discussed. (→Netscott) 11:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]