Talk:Phillips Exeter Academy

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"Non-sectarian"

@Guy Macon: I've reverted your removal of "Non-sectarian" from the Religion line of the infobox. "Non-sectarian," it's true, is not a religion, per se. Nonetheless, it's a useful descriptor in an infobox, informing the reader that Phillips Exeter is not Hindu, Shiite, Episcopalian, Hasidic, etc., but neither is it atheistic nor exclusively humanistic. See what they say about themselves wrt religion.
Your edit summary seemed a bit hyperbolic. Infoboxes are helpful in giving a quick overview of a subject, so we don't have to be that nit-picky. YoPienso (talk) 03:14, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This violates the RfC Template talk:Infobox/Archive 11#RfC: Religion in infoboxes: "Without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the 'Religion=' parameter of the infobox".

There have been several RfCs on religion in the infobox:

15 June 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

This RfC had a clear consensus for removing the religion parameter from the infobox for individuals (living, deceased, and fictional), groups, schools, institutions, and political parties that have no religion, but that RfC was determined by the closing administrator to not apply to nations.

17 June 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations.

This RfC had a clear consensus for removing the religion parameter for countries, nations, states, regions, etc., all of which were determined to not have religions.

31 December 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion in infoboxes.

This RfC was a response to certain individuals insisting that the previous RfCs did not apply to their favorite pages (schools, political parties, sports teams, computer operating systems, organized crime gangs...) and had a clear consensus that in all infoboxes in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the "Religion=" parameter of the infobox.

11 April 2016 RfC: RfC: Religion in biographical infoboxes.

In this RfC, there was a clear consensus to remove the "religion=" and "denomination=" parameters from all biographical infoboxes, not just the ones that call atheism/agnosticism a religion.

There have been four RfCs on this, and all four showed the same overwhelming consensus. All of the RfCs also concluded that you are free to put a section about religion in the body of the article, subject of course to our usual rules such as WP:V, WP:RS and WP:WEIGHT. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:55, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I might add that [ https://www.exeter.edu/student-life/campus-connections/phillips-church ] is exactly the sort of source that led the Wikipedia community to come to this consensus. It is far too subtle, detailed and nuanced to fit into a single word in an infobox. It would be an excellent addition to the body of the article where we have room to do it justice. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:04, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think "non-sectarian" fully conveys religious engagement at Exeter as described by the source.

"Non-sectarian" isn't a "nonreligion," so the term doesn't violate the RfC.

That said, thank you for pointing out the hostility at WP toward mentioning religion in infoboxes. Even though I find the arguments supporting the decision illogical, I'll acquiesce to the community's preference. YoPienso (talk) 08:19, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]