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June 27

Use of Google Street View images

I read through Google's terms of use, and understood them to say that use of their street view content is allowed provided Google and its content providers are credited. However, when I attempted to use street view imagery on an article, it was marked for speedy deletion along with a comment that all of Google's content is copyrighted and cannot be used on wikipedia. Can someone help me understand this? I will provide links below that led me to believe the use of this image was allowed.

"Google Earth images

We know the imagery in Google Earth, both current and historical, can provide useful visual context to news websites, blogs, and other educational sites. And often these sites want to use the imagery found in Google Earth as still images, both as-is or annotated with additional labels and features. You may use a handful of these images in a news article or on a blog, just please be sure to follow our attribution rules. Note that Google Earth Pro allows you to export high-resolution JPEGs—particularly handy for these projects."

Google Earth Images for use on web: https://www.google.com/permissions/geoguidelines.html#maps-web

Proper Attribution: https://www.google.com/permissions/geoguidelines/attr-guide.html

Thanks for the help — Preceding unsigned comment added by PureMichiganChip (talk • contribs) 04:05, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@PureMichiganChip: Google's conditions for using Street View imagery are fairly strict (https://www.google.com/permissions/geoguidelines.html#streetview) - they require a live link to Google's copy of the image, unless the re-use is for academic or non-commercial purposes. This is incompatible with the free licenses used at Wikipedia, which allow text and images to be re-used freely, even commercially. There are exceptions which allow some non-free images to be displayed at Wikipedia, but they won't apply to Street View images. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:01, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@PureMichiganChip: You have to understand that Wikipedia allows LESS than you might have permission for. This is to guarantee the eternal availability for any purpose of the material that we create and host. This makes it considerably hard for the average person to determine what kind of material he can upload and use in an article. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:26, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

File rename

I am having trouble. This page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Rename_media - is meant to show me how to revert a file name. I had thought that the file (see below) was named incorrectly and I therefore changed it. BUT - it is clear now that the file's ORIGINAL name was indeed correct. The file is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Catherine,_Duchess_of_Cambridge#/media/File:William_Middleton,_Esq.,_of_Gledhow_Grange_Estate,_near_Leeds.jpg

You will see that it was originally correctly called - File:John W. Middleton Esq. of Fairfield, the estate in Far Headingley, near Leeds.jpg

Please help me reinstate this original and correct file name. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 05:19, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: I have posted on your behalf at the Wikimedia Commons help desk. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:50, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Recreation of a Previously-Deleted Page

Hi! I'm new here as a contributor. I was doing a Wikipedia search for something, and surprised that the page didn't exist yet. I looked on the logs, and it turns out that two attempted creations had been deleted for a multitude of reasons including COI and non-credible sources. The Wikipedia guidelines for "Criteria for Speedy Deletion" state that "It excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version, pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies, and content that has been moved to user space or converted to a draft for explicit improvement (but not simply to circumvent Wikipedia's deletion policy)".

If I were to recreate this page, would it be possible to have a draft looked at to ensure that it's "not substantially identical to the deleted version" (I have no idea what it looks like before, and can't seem to figure out how to view what it was before it was deleted, if it's possible?) and that the sources I believe to be credible (as per my interpretation of Wikipedia's guidelines) are actually credible?

Thanks! Vorsipellis (talk) 07:01, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

You can't see it - but an administrator can. You can ask one if they can provide the old text which they will often do if it doesn't contain copyright violations, personal attacks, etc. (Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention) Rmhermen (talk) 07:10, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

If you want to create the article, Vorsipellis, (and are satisfied that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, my suggestion would be to use the article wizard to create a draft in draft space. When you think it is ready, you can submit it for review; and if the reviewing editor thinks that it is acceptable, they will sort out moving it to mainspace. Depending on why the previous attempts were deleted, it may or may not be useful to look at them: as Rmhermen says, you can ask an administrator to give you a copy. --ColinFine (talk) 08:10, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Got it, will go do that. Thanks very much! Vorsipellis (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

show name of google

sir i want know how show about myself on google if any person search my name how to add name & image informed me — Preceding unsigned comment added by PARAMESWARSUNA (talk • contribs)

In general, you cannot do such at thing yourself. You can always buy an ad with Google to advertise yourself of course. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:17, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Citations in Local language

Can citation source be in local language other than English ?Can administrators take in count the third resource from Language other than english — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandeep3434 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@Sandeep3434: Yes, sources written in any language are acceptable; see Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English sources for more detail. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:44, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@Sandeep3434: and an English translation of the title may be helpful Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Netherlands vs Holland

Are they going to leave Holland known as the Netherlands (which it was called years ago) (This was done due to Michele Obama wasn't it?) This grouping was Spain, France, Bugaria, Germany, Holland - part of what is each country now was The Netherlands. It is causing problems, especially for Olympic athletes. Some of these countries athletes didn't get to compete.

Regarding the listing for the United States, if you watch an unedited version of the Trump inauguration, you will find Trump was not reinaugurated. It was stopped by a General of the UNITED STATES MILITARY, not a US led coalition which the Metro refers to constantly by Rueters.

Thanks, concerned American — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.108.141 (talk) 11:55, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

"The Netherlands" is the correct title of the Western European country north of Belgium. Part of its territiry consists of the two provinces of North and South Holland, and the country is sometimes as a whole referred to (incorrectly) as "Holland" The history of the area is quite complex, but Spain and Austria did at one time control it between them, and France and Germany have both invaded at various times. I don't think Bulgaria has ever had anything to do with it. I have no idea why you think Michelle Obama had any involvement, nor what it has to do with the Olympics.

I also have no idea what you're talking about re Trump's inauguration. Rojomoke (talk) 12:53, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

mailing list

I am a real estate broker and I am trying to get a list of email address for my County in Florida so I can send out a news letter trying to market my real estate company. How do I do this Thank You Jim Mathieu Alzie Realty Fort Lauderdale — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alziehomes (talk • contribs) 14:02, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Alziehomes. This is the help desk, which is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. You might try asking at the reference desk. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 14:13, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not disclose any e-mail addresses, of course, but some organisations do sell lists that they have compiled. If you ask at the computing reference desk, perhaps someone can point you to such an organisation. Dbfirs 16:48, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Delete Draft / Talk

Good afternoon

How do i delete a Draft and Talk pages ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Francois_Delage

I.e., I only want the below to be accessible / for reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francois_Delage

Thank you in advance for helping. Kind regards Camilla. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.80.230 (talk) 14:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I've deleted them, needs admin permissions Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

If you meant the talk page of the article, rather than of the draft, that must stay so people can comment Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:32, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Use of "sic"

What should be done if a newspaper misspells someone's verbal quote? It seems a bit unfair to add "[sic]", given that "[sic]" tends to be used to draw attention to someone's alleged lack of written English skills. This was not Mhairi Black's spelling error, it was The Guardian's. Could the spelling be corrected in the quote? MaxBrowne (talk) 15:13, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

A spelling error in The Grauniad! a scandalous accusation sir. That definitely sounds like she was speaking, making it the paper's error. Sic not needed in my opinion. - X201 (talk) 15:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Max. As far as I am concerned, the source here is the person being quoted, and The Guardian's role as a source is in acting as a reliable conduit for what the words were, but not the spelling/punctuation. Also, the grammatical error made by the newspaper in transcription is not relevant to the quote's purpose in the article, so flagging it in the body would be a distraction. Accordingly, I see no need to retain The Guardian's possessive error. It should simply be corrected, with no [sic] flag. This is in keeping with MOS:PMC. However, it might be useful to add a commented out note (text between <!-- -->) next to the corrected error, stating this issue itself. This would not be seen in the live article, but would be seen by anyone seeking to "correct" the quote by adding in the apostrophe or "[sic]", or both. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

This is specified in the MOS (manual of style) at MOS:PMC. RJFJR (talk) 17:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Article

Hi! I am trying to create a wikipedia page about Nick Quested, a renowned documentary film producer who has won Emmy awards and been nominated for an Academy Award. Somebody has already tried to make a page about him, but the draft was denied publication. Now I am trying to edit it and resubmit to be evaluated, but I am not sure how to do this. I don't see where I can resubmit the page that was created by somebody else, but that I edited. I appreciate the help. JordanK713 (talk) 15:53, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

There is a resubmit button in blue on the draft page, but don't resubmit yet, because you need to find independent references. A subject's own website and IMDb are written by the subject or their agents, so are not independent, and can be used only in a limited way. You need to find publications where the subject has been written about extensively (not just an interview or a mention). See Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Dbfirs 16:40, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Note that the Emmys were shared with others, and a documentary he worked on was nominated for an Oscar, not him. Clarityfiend (talk) 14:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Image Use

I'm going around and around on whether the image is relevant to the topic. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Braves_Spring_Training_Stadium If I'm wrong on this topic it's fine. Just need a third party to give it a look. I edited the caption to give context to the image. The same user still removed it. The user could be right, but the revert war is unproductive. The picture in question is a picture of a future location of a ball park. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 20:00, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

It's an empty field showing grass, bushes and trees. There's nothing unique or identifying in the image itself, not even a sign saying "Future Spring Training Home of the Braves" or similar. Any photo of an empty field could be substituted, and no one would know the difference. - BilCat (talk) 20:07, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

You opinion is referenced over and over on the article. Can someone else help with this question? The image is the future location and shows the undeveloped West Villages location. Nemov (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@BilCat, Nemov: Well, you've both violated the three revert rule x 3 (9 reverts each today I believe) in your edit war, and neither one of you have started a discussion on the talk page. After doing so and the issue cannot be resolved, you can seek a Wikipedia:Third opinion, and/or start a Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. There's further ideas at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution.

As to the underlying issue, I'm somewhat torn. It's not "purely decorative" and as to MOS:PERTINENCE, it is relevant. It is the actual field as identified by the photographer, not some random field (meaning I think Bilcat's over-egged the pudding in claiming that this is literally no different than any other image of a random field) but is it "significant" when it's, well, just a fairly generic looking field; does seeing the actual field where something will be built, but has not yet been built, tell us much about the thing; does it increase our reader's understanding?

I think it does though not greatly. It's a hook for the content about the Stadium's yet-to-be-built status, and it also tells our readers some information about the ultimate location that is not just "empty field information". For one, we can see the location chosen is in a rural area with nothing around it for a long way, that is different information than, say, if it was of a field surrounded by buildings or there was lots of highways in view. But is it very significant? No. So if, for example, this article had many [other] relevant images and we were concerned about the number ("too many can be distracting"), then I would vote for this to go. As it is, though, I think it has a place. Feel free to transpose this post to the talk page discussion (though all of it or nothing), if you start it (as I urge you to do). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:19, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

As is yours. I'm sorry, but however you know this, it's original research. I'm taking your word for it that its actually correct location, but how does anyone else know? Maybe you could put up a sign, and then take another photo. - BilCat (talk) 22:46, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Bilcat: we relax our standards for images. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images#Image description pages: "Reliable sources, if any, may be listed on the image's description page. Generally, Wikipedia assumes in good faith that image creators are correctly identifying the contents of photographs they have taken. If such sources are available, it is helpful to provide them."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I have been assuming good faith that this is the actual field. But it does look like any other field, which is my point. - BilCat (talk) 23:36, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit: Thanks for your help. Good to know about the third party option as well. I should have have pursued that instead of all the reverts. I copied this over to the talk page for future reference. Nemov (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Searching for pages containing words containing a substring.

Is there a way to use a wildcard at the beginning of a word when searching wikipedia? For example if I wanted to search for pages for words containing the substring "methane" so I could also find pages containing the word chloromethane, nitromethane, methanesulfonic, ect. How could I go about it? OrganoMetallurgy (talk) 20:58, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi OrganoMetallurgy. Please see Help:Searching, including its subsection at Syntax which covers wildcard searches. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:34, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit wildcards don't work at the beginning of words. OrganoMetallurgy (talk) 23:07, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@OrganoMetallurgy: An "insource" regular expression search can sometimes do the job (example) but in this case there are too many results for the software to return them all. -- John of Reading (talk) 04:52, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks that solves my problem. OrganoMetallurgy (talk) 13:37, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Table problems

Hello, I'm a bit at a loss with the article Bournemouth (J. R. R. Tolkien's place of death...): (1) Although I entered the parameter class="wikitable centered" (I also tried class="wikitable center") for the second table in the Climate. How come this doesn't work? (2) Also, I didn't know how to fix the table[s] in the Demography section just below. Would somebody like to give me a helping hand there?--Curc (talk) 21:57, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Help:Table is your friend:

{|class="wikitable" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:07, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Curc: This seems to be missing some " characters. There's a complete example at HELP:TABLECENTER. -- John of Reading (talk) 04:43, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk and John of Reading: Okay, at least I managed to fix the climate table, but I still couln't figure out what's wrong with the one[s] in the Demography section, but it seems as if the table's formatting as a whole needed a complete overhaul, doesn't it? Admittedly, I really don't have a sound knowledge of formatting tables... Best--Curc (talk) 18:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Yep, missed a couple of quote marks.

What do you want from the two tables in Demography? Yes, there does seem (to me) to be a bit more markup that may be necessary. Why the different colors? Why the narrow blank columns?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:34, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, also some lines are thicker and in the two last ones the last line is missing each time.--Curc (talk) 21:11, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

"Yes" what? What do you mean by that? I don't know how to interpret that answer when applying it to the "what do you want from these tables" question (which is, to my mind, the most important question). Nor can I use it to answer the other questions I asked.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 21:16, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh, please excuse my "steno style". "Yes" was only used as an affirmative referring to your observations about the need of revision (different colors, blank columns). I hope things become clearer now. ;-)--Curc (talk) 21:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Is that what you want? To standardize the colors? Delete extraneous columns? Normalize line thickness? Leave them where they are? Center? In short, my first question remains unanswered: What do you want from the two tables in Demography?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 21:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

how to add a new page

Hello, I would like to know how I can create a new page that does not exist (for example in English) but is available in other languages. I have read the guide how to do it but could not find the way where to start, where to click. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jirka1901 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jirka1901 . Are you sure the subject is notable? – that it/he/she has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, secondary, independent sources that you plan to cite to verify all the information and demonstrate that notability? You've read Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Translation, including its section on providing mandatory copyright attribution if you're translating? Okay, then, go the Wikipedia:Article wizard—it'll walk you though it. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:31, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

June 28

Image removed

An image I uploaded to my Wikipedia page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Murray_McArthur_2015.jpg, has been removed as it is listed as 'non-free' content. I should like to continue to use the image on my page (I am the actor 'Murray McArthur'). What amendments, if any, should I make to change it from 'non-free' to 'free' content, thus enabling me to continue to use it?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Murray66 (talk • contribs) 07:45, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Murray66. Most images in Wikipedia are required to be free, in the sense that anybody is permitted to reuse them for any purpose, commercial or not. There is a small percentage of images that are not free, and used under stringent criteria, but images of living people almost never meet those criteria. If the copyright holder Sara Lloyd is willing to release the image under an acceptable licence, she must explicitly license it either publicly or in a formal communication to the Wikimedia Foundation: see donating copyright materials. On another subject, please read the policies on conflict of interest, to see why you are strongly discouraged from directly editing Murray McArthur. --ColinFine (talk) 09:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Murray, This may seem a little confusing at first but it is really very simple. So lets brake it down. First: This is not Your Page but a Wikipedia article about you (that’s got the semantic out of the way). Now coming to your question about how to contribute. It is the person pressing the shutter on the camera that hold the copyright to the image in this instance. Simply ask Sara Lloyd to email in a OTRS . Example template here: [1]. It is a win-win for her too, as her image on Wikimedia Commons will bring her work to a wider audience. Finally, but very importantly for you, is that there is a big backlog in approving images. It currently stands at 215 days: [OTRS backlog]. So will go way over the Tuesday, 4 July 2017 deadline for deletion. So, as you are one of Sara's valued clients, ask 'her' to comment on File:Murray McArthur 2015.jpg that she -as the photographer- has submitted a OTRS on such and such a date. We do not allow advertising here but as the photographer she (we) can than then add a 'click-able link' to her website to denoted the Source of the image. As the image stands at the moment though, it will be deleted in July without some action from you and Sara, as it does not yet apply with our compliance with copyright laws. Hope this helps. Aspro (talk) 14:43, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

As an aside: Thinking about it and since time-is-of-the-essence here, there might be a shorter route. Should Sara see the the benefits of creating a Wikipedia or Wikipedia Commons account. Then she can add this tag to the image that she took of you:

You can not add this, only Sara can after she has created an account. That takes just minutes and then the both of you don't have to wait on tenter hooks. Then you can add it to the article about you, without fear that it is going to be deleted in July. Aspro (talk) 15:44, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Need help with the Draft

Hi, I was trying to write an article about an organization. I'm not part of the organization, neither am I getting paid for it. It's just an attempt. I have drafted it and not really sure on how to take it further for publishing it. Is there any specific helpdesk for articles review. If not, can someone help me review the article and publishing it, as I am a new user. Would appreciate the help! Please find the draft link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:RegalixHenryrichie11 (talk) 12:27, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello @Henryrichie11:, I have done some minor tidying on the draft. When you are ready to submit it for review, click on the blue button at the bottom of the 'new unreviewed article' notice. Review may take some time. I am not a reviewer but there may be an issue with the 'notability' of the organisation. Please see WP:GNG for more information. Also the references need some additional information. Please see WP:REFB in this respect. The reference shoud habitually include the title, the website name (I.e. xxxxx.com or whatever) date of the source and date you accessed it. There is nothing to stop you submitting the draft for review at any time; the reviewer will provide feedback on improvements necessary and please feel free to ask experienced editors for help. You can also type {{help me}} on your talk page and someone will show up to assist you. Good luck. I will also leave a message at your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 13:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Can We Make More Than One Page On A Account

Can We Make More Than One Page On A Account? Answer With Explanation Please And Another Question I Am Trying To Add A Picture To Infobox Person But it Gives Me the File name and says it is not availiable plz tell me how or u do it for me its on my page User:Abidullah Ansari/sandbox please u can see the address by clicking on edit. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abidullah Ansari (talk • contribs)

Hello, Abidullah Ansari. Welcome to Wikipedia. You are very welcome to contribute, but please read about how to do it first. I have put a number of useful links on your user talk page, and I suggest you read them. But to answer your specific questions:

• There is no connection between an account and the articles it may edit. An account is just a named Wikipedia editor, and in general, may edit any articles anywhere in Wikipedia, and may create new articles, subject to the policies and rules. If you mean, can you have more than one page in your user space - like the "sandbox" page you have created, the answer is, Yes; but their contents must comply with the policies on what may go on user pages.
• In order to use pictures in Wikipedia, they must first be uploaded either to Wikimedia Commons, or to Wikipedia itself. Getting the copyright correct is difficult, and many many many pictures that people want to use on Wikipedia may not be used because they are not licensed in a way that Wikipedia will accept. See Help:Images.

Other points that are not directly answers to your questions, but I think you need to know:

• What we do here is not "make pages" but "write encyclopaedia articles". There is a little more freedom on your user page and subpages - see the link I gave above - but Wikipedia is not a webhost or a social media site, it is an encyclopaedia.
• On talk and discussion pages like this one, please sign any contribution you make (with four tildes ~~~~ or by picking the "signature" icon). This makes it easier for editors to have a conversation with you. --ColinFine (talk) 12:01, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Page deletion - explanation

Hi,

One of my clients recently tried to add a page to Wikipedia but it was deleted and we're not sure why. Would anyone be able to clarify this for me?

The account set up was called blinkagency and the article was called Lincoln & York Coffee Roasters.

I wrote the article myself and all facts included were backed up with external links from sites other than Lincoln & York, so I'm not sure why it was flagged up.

If anyone could help that'd be great!

Thanks,

Sarah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadie054 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Didn't read the forgone article but can guess by viewing many others that fell on stone ground. Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia and not a trade directory. Many companies waste a portion of their profits by hiring agencies that spout “oh and you must have a Wikipedia entry”. Only to have them deleted soon after as not being encyclopedic. Companies that are on the ball, write into the contract that they will only pay for a article's creation if it remains up for 2 years or so. Read COI. Much self generated articles are just puffery, an whist this language may be acceptable in a trade mag it is certainly not acceptable here. A good rule of thumb to go by is that if the organization or company has a claim to Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) then it already has an article. If an organization or company feels a desperate need to promote itself – it by refection -is not yet notable enough for an encyclopedic article and is just simple trying to use Wikipedia as a promotional lever. Aspro (talk) 16:26, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Sadie054 as far as I could determine, no article titled Lincoln & York Coffee Roasters has ever existed on the English Wikipedia. The only contributions your username has ever done on the English Wikipedia are the post here and another earlier one also on this page dated 30 May 2017. There are no deleted edits in your log. If you previously edited under a different username please tell us then we might be able to figure outwhat happened. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Dodger67 - "User:Blinkagency" (now blocked) wrote Lincoln & York Coffee Manufacturers which was speedily deleted as advertising. Bencherlite^Talk 19:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Bencherlite - different title and username, and what a horrible pile of spam that was! Why is it so hard for people to be precise about page titles when asking for help... BTW do I smell a case of block evasion here? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Roger, I don't think you're reading very carefully. Sadie054 did say that it was the client that posted, and gave the account name as "blinkagency". While this was a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is, it appears to me to have been done in good faith.

Sadie, one way of looking at this is that Wikipedia has essentially no interest whatever in what any subject - person, band, charity, company, city - says or wants to say about itself, and is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about them. If little or no such independent published material exists, then we will not have an article about them. --ColinFine (talk) 12:11, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps one of the OP's clients is entitled now, to ask for a recovery of fees - for an idea that the OP didn’t bother to research but asks here now, seeking for an easy fix to the OP's own ignorance of our policies which are clear and legible. Since 'client' also edited on same account (by OP's own admission) then that too smell's of fish. Our policies and guidelines only have to be read by a PR professional to be understood... after all, teenagers, that haven't even gotten to high school can understand and abide by them. Aspro (talk) 21:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Monchi community

I search about my community "monchi" but wikipedia is describing false information. We are hindu, and formerly Kshatriya, hide ourselves to save life from "Parsuram" and we found all around India. We are accepted work of chamar and mostly making shoes and leather items. We are also called as Jan kshatriya. I request helpdesk to verify information and correct the contents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.39.138 (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Do you mean Mochi (Hindu)? Please post at the talk page Talk:Mochi (Hindu), explaining exactly what is wrong with the article, and giving reliable independent sources to verify your facts. Rojomoke (talk) 17:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

My personal profile

Dear Admin, I will like to put up my personal profile on Wikipedia, is it allowed? If yes, how can I go about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delateur-ng (talk • contribs) 18:26, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Delateur-ng: Welcome to Wikipedia! For details about creating a biography about yourself on Wikipedia, see WP:YOURSELF. If you are referring to a user page, see Wikipedia:User pages (here is mine as an example). Daylen (talk) 18:34, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Can I write an article on this?

Hello. I wish to write an article on a historic street in Sherwood, Nottingham. I have OS Maps, historical information on the street, it's construction, the type of constructions and so on. The street dates back from 1870 and is largely residential, but has a interesting history that is notable and encyclopedic. One of the oldest residential streets in the area too. If I write about this, can I be assured it will not get deleted? I do not wish to waste my efforts. Thank you. --ImmidiaTactique (talk) 18:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

ImmidiaTactique what type of sources do you have for the information? The best sources would be news articles, professionally written and published books and magazine articles or academic journals. Sources such as blogs, local community websites, social media, self-published books or word-of-mouth stories, are no good. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Mainly primary sources, with published books from local library. --ImmidiaTactique (talk) 20:24, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

How to capture/copy urls for PDFs on smartphone?

I'm currently in a GA review on Welsh Pony and Cob. Many of the sources were deadlinks and I'm having to fix all those, which in several cases means just finding the moved page. On the info that comes from the United States Equestrian Federation is where I'm having a problem. It has all been moved from a webpage to a PDF. I can download PDFs on my phone, but I can never copy the urls. I've tried multiple times and always failed. I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 if it matters. Thanks for any help. I wasn't sure if this belonged here, but since it affects editing Wikipedia I figured it would be OK to ask here. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

White Arabian Filly hello. While I use an iPhone (so might not have the right suggestion here), in general, if you see a pdf linked on a web page and if you keep your finger pressed on the link (that is, don't tap on it, but keep it pressed), the browser gives various options, including "Copy link" or "Copy", both which basically copy the web iink. This happens in at least Chrome (which I have downloaded on iPhone); and I just tested it on the USEF.org site. So perhaps you could try that. (But like I said, I don't know how the S4 works). Thanks. Lourdes 02:40, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Another user has helped on those links, but thanks for the suggestion. Mine also brings up a scrollbar of options, so I will try that next time. It will probably help in many cases. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:55, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Album covers in an article section

Dear editors: I have been editing a lot of stub articles about bands. In a few cases, I have come across bands for which there isn't a lot of substantiated information, and yet for which there is a separate article about one of the band's albums. If the two articles were to be combined, to make one more substantial article under the name of the band, could the image of the album's cover still be legitimately displayed in the section about the album? Or would this constitute a breach of copyright?—Anne Delong (talk) 21:33, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Images item 1, I would think it would be okay granted that you are providing 'critical commentary'. Whatever that is. †dismas†|^(talk) 21:45, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh good....thanks.—Anne Delong (talk) 01:02, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Just to be safe Anne, you could ask Nikkimaria who has a significant understanding of this area. Thanks. Lourdes 02:42, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

June 29

Rebecca Tavo

in her page this is stated In 2006, she became BHP Billiton's first female train driver. this is so very untrue and false as i was their first in 1987. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.251.5.24 (talk) 03:03, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi @116.251.5.24: I have tried to find a citation for BHP Billiton's first female train driver; however, I could not find one on a quick search. The current citation is a dead link, and no archive is available. I will contact the news organization who wrote the article for clarification. Do you happen to have a reference (online or in print) that you were the company's first female train driver? If you can provide one from a notable media organization, I would be happy to fix the error. Thanks! Daylen (talk) 03:21, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

A copy [2] of the 2009 source says "Three years ago, Rebecca became BHP Billiton's first female train driver". It's hard to find information about a possible earlier female driver without knowing the name. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Unable to login

I am unable to log into my account User:Thankyoubaby, which I have been using for over 10 years. I've tried on different computers and different browsers. Every time I log in, the main page appears and it says I need to log in again. I've cleared my cookies and have made sure they are enabled. I don't know what else to try, please help. Thankyoubaby2 (talk) 15:29, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I have the same problem. It lets me log in and shows I am logged in but when I move to the next page, it logs me out. So even if I log in now to edit this, when I click save changes it logs me out at that point so I cannot leave my real signature here. I am User:Bethgranter. As a result I cannot update my preferences e.g. change my registered email address or password. Help! PS I have already followed these instructions to no avail:

"If you appear to have logged in, but as soon as you try to look at a page after 'Log in successful', you appear logged out again, it is very likely to be a cookie problem. See this brief tutorial on how to enable cookies for your browser. Make sure your computer's date and time are set correctly; if they are not, cookies may expire before they are supposed to. Note that some firewall and ad-blocking software may interfere with the cookie that Wikipedia uses to keep a person logged in. Some ISPs use transparent proxies which cause problems logging in. This happens most often with some satellite ISPs (particularly HughesNet/DirecWay/DirecPC). Occasionally, a user may find him/herself "automatically" logged out between beginning an edit and saving it, or when switching between multiple wiki pages open in multiple windows or tabs. This can be a result of your browser's cookie, cache, or firewall settings, but sometimes, especially during heavy server load, the system can "glitch" and your login information will be lost, resulting in a logout." 92.5.89.119 (talk) 16:36, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references duplicate key

Rob Tetzlaff (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I am unable to add a reference to the page "Rob Tetzlaff." First, the man's name was never "Rob." I knew him. Second, here is my draft reference that would be helpful: but I cannot get your website to accept it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twistlaw (talk • contribs) 15:49, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

@Twistlaw: When you added the reference you used a ref name which had already been used for another reference. This produced the large angry red error message. In fact you only need to use a ref name if you use the same ref more than once then you just type <'ref name'/> at subsequent instances. In this case the other ref did not need a name as it has only one use. However, the reference already in the page does not agree that he was called 'Bob'. Eagleash (talk) 16:00, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

PS; I have added the alternative name to the page. Eagleash (talk) 16:12, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

References

General Hospital contract & recurring cast lists

I would like to know why some cast member names are in blue and some in black, especially on the recurring cast list? There must be some significance to it but I can't see what it means.

Thank you

Mary McGrath  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.41.64.131 (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2017 (UTC) 

The blue ones have articles about them. Try clicking on the name. Dbfirs 17:36, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Last modified/edited

When did the bottom of pages started displaying "This page was last edited on" instead of "This page was last modified on"? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:17, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

28 April 2017 here at the English Wikipedia when [3] was imported to MediaWiki:Lastmodifiedat. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:45, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

As far as I understand, it was to better indicate that it only reflects the editing of the content of the page, and not for instance changes to images being included in it, changes to the configuration etc etc. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:40, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

June 30

Planet Heroes

I ran across Planet Heroes while looking at articles that were tagged as potential spam. Almost every reference in this article is a sales site such as Fisher-Price.com or Amazon, and most of them are now dead. I tried to find other types of articles but couldn't. Is this appropriate for deletion? Leschnei (talk) 01:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riga

Dear Wikipedia Editors,

As citizen of Latvia and capital of Riga, I would like to inform you that there is some photo which does not reflects real facts about Riga. Would be nice if you could to delete picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riga#/media/File:Zolitude_paula_lejina_playground.JPG "Playground in Zolitūde". Nowadays all playgrounds for children is located in designated areas and meets the modern EU requirements. Old playgrounds from Soviet era are demolished — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.153.171.116 (talk) 07:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

I can see that this image might give a bad impression. Are you able to supply us with a more modern photograph to replace it? Dbfirs 08:19, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

It should be noted however that the image is in a section about the Soviet-era. But some copyediting and rework might be required there. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Anonymous user constantly editing page and not responding to talk request

Hi There,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_England_national_rugby_union_team_results_2010–19

have been updating this page (with others) since 2014 - I recently noticed an edit that I felt was incorrect, so amended it. The same incorrect change was repeated again, so I put comments in the edit history as it why it was incorrect., and opened a talk page to try and explain. There was no response, so after 2 weeks I again made the correction - which has again been undone by the same IP address ID'd user.

not sure what to do now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jprb1959 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

If you look more closely, you'll see that it was not the same IP, so you can't assume that they even saw your note. My advice is twofold: (1) open a thread on the talk page (Talk:List of England national rugby union team results 2010–19) expressing your concerns; (2) leave a neutrally-worded note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union asking for help monitoring the page. In looking over the page's history, I see that no established, long-term editors have edited it in more than a year, so you really need to get more eyes on this. Incidentally, the topic area of the list is way outside my expertise, but I don't see any sources at all. All content should be verifiable, and right now it looks as though we're supposed to take your word for it that your version is correct. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 14:03, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Edition of a page on Wikipedia

I edited the name of my grandfather from Adafersaw Yenadu to Adefrsew Yendau. I did so because the spelling of his name was wrong. But, I was not able to edit the entry title. Please instruct me on how to do it or please change it for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azeb Adefrsew (talk • contribs) 14:11, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for pointing out the error, but can you provide a reliable source for the correct spelling? We need to make sure that content is verifiable. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 14:19, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikilink to Adafersaw Yenadu for the convenience of anyone interested. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.217.103.214 (talk) 17:51, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Major issues with "Jewish Prayer Modes" entry

The above mentioned entry (Jewish Prayer Modes)has many many problems, to the degree that it needs to be completely re-done or have a different submission for it if anyone is willing to do the work. It is not a matter of editing a detail here and there. How do I go about at least explaining this, and to whom? Elisha Ben Abuya (talk) 14:37, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Elisha Ben Abuya. Every article has a talk page where the article can be discussed. In this case, that would be Talk:Jewish prayer modes. But realize that the way Wikipedia operates is that articles are updated, rewritten, watched, worked on, etc. by people interested in topics and willing to roll up their sleeves.

Everyone you see here – everyone who has edited that article; anyone who would respond to such a request; me responding to your question right now – is a volunteer member of the public, just like you except as to their experience level (but we were all new once), who is donating their time to try to help write an encyclopedia.

So, you may be brand new to Wikipedia, but since you are interested in the topic, rewriting it is your "job" just as much as it is anyone else's—but where you are the person who wants something done.

A post to the article talk page (if at all, making highly specific suggestions: exactly what is wrong, what should be removed, what should be changed, how you would rewrite it, specific language... what sources back up the suggestions) might result in some other volunteer, also interested in that subject, acting, but it's just as likely on average that very few people are watching that article and you might wait 5 years for any response at all, or that the response you will get will be in the vein of "so fix it".

So, what I think you really should do instead is to start learning the ropes (for that I recommend taking a tour through the tutorial and then reading Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia) and then boldly rewrite it yourself. But please understand that Wikipedia runs on reliable sourcing for verification and other purposes. Please keep that in the front of your mind if you are willing to wade in, after you've dipped your toes by starting this thread. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:44, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Are my buttons meant to look like this?

I'm using Chrome on a Mac. Are my buttons meant to look like this? [4] They used to be less ugly, and I'm pretty sure they don't look like this when I edit on Chrome on PC. Popcornduff (talk) 15:13, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Looks like you've zoomed in, try CTRL+0 (that's a zero) - X201 (talk) 15:41, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

changes continuing to be reversed

The factual changes made to View, Inc. are being undone or reversed by user DeniseJZ. I have referenced legal documents from the company as the basis for the changes made.