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Number of deaths at the Bataclan

According to the plaque shown here, 90 people died at the Bataclan.[1] "To the 90 lives fallen in these places" is the English translation. Yet, this article says that 89 died at the Bataclan. Is it known whether or not there was an additional death at the Bataclan which went unreported in the days immediately following the attacks?

Noseycjr (talk) 20:28, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Does this article contain mention of contemporaneous, extensive French bombing campaign directed at alleged perpetrators?

This is noted given that at the present time, mention of contemporaneous, extensive French bombing campaign is lacking.

In an article filled with mentions of Paris "attacks" there is at present no trace of any mention of the contemporaneous extensive French bombing campaigns that began the year before, covering a huge range of territory including parts of Senegal, Mauritania, Mali, Burkina Faso, Algeria, Niger, Nigeria, Chad, Sudan, South Sudan, Eritrea, Cameroon, Central African Republic, and Ethiopia in the west (Operation Barkhane); and with the cooperation of the United States and the UK, Syria and Iraq in the east (Operation Chammal). Particularly when one considers that one the bombings in Paris apparently targeted a concert held by a musical group known as "Eagles of Death," it doesn't take much more than reading the writing on the wall to surmise that what have overwhelmingly been described as "attacks" throughout the article might be as plausibly described as "response." (I myself neglected to add above that France began its occupation of Afghanistan in December 2001, and Libya in March 2011.)

Note that this is not a request for a cosmetic change in word choice, but a reminder that as this article develops over time, it should not shield preexisting French military policy against the alleged perpetrators--and therefore of obvious relevance to the background of the event--from the view of a concerned reader. Alfred Nemours (talk) 09:53, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Enough already. We are not here to write a political blog based on your opinions. This is a rehash of the view that acts by western governments have helped to foster Islamic extremism. If reliable sources say this, fine, but it won't be added to the article otherwise.--
WP is not censored. These are not my opinions, but the mere posing of a question obvious to any considered understanding of an event that includes motive and background. Recentism has been described as "imbalanced focus" without "an aim toward a long-term, historical view." It is precisely in order to avoid allowing an article about a historical event to slip into an impassioned political blog filled with kneejerk innuendo that this question is raised. Alfred Nemours (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 10:59, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]