Talk:Charles Manson
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Why was Manson in jail for most of his adult life? The article just says that he was, and that he was then released, and then involved in the murders. Why was he in prison in the first place? It sort of looks like he was in prison for the murders, before they were comitted. Needs explanation by someone who knows something about this (I'd never heard of Manson. Not related to Marilyn Manson, is he?). CGS 22:52 26 Jul 2003 (UTC).
- He's related to Marilyn Manson in name only. Marilyn Manson constructed his name based on Manson's (and Marilyn Monroe's). —Frecklefoot 19:32, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Where's the Neutrality?
Repeating a simplified, shortened version of Bugliosi's book _Helter Skelter_ is hardly neutral in POV; Bugliosi, remember was the prosecutor, and his case was based almost completely on the State's evidence testimony of drug-addled Susan Atkins. ("State's evidence", for non-Americans, is the term used here for someone testifying against an alleged accomplice to get a lighter sentence, like if you and I were charged with robbing a store, and I made a deal to help the prosecutor by saying you held the gun -- so you should be punished worse than me.)
I'm not saying Charlie Manson was a saint, or innocent, or a misunderstood kid who never got enough hugs, only that this article as written is not neutral.
David <the@iglou.com>
System of a down's ATWA
"System of a Down wrote the song ATWA on their Toxicity album about the media's viewpoints on Manson."
Where has the band stated what the song is about exactly? I have heard them say it is about Manson, but System of a Down do not generally like to give their meaning behind a song ("As band, we don't like limiting interpretations to our songs by defining them.") I will try to research this a little more myself and see what I can come up with.
--nadavspi 03:50, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- All you need to do is read the lyrics and you'd have a general understanding about what it means. The song is a viewpoint from Manson himself; and in the end the song is about how if we focus on one part of a person (ie: Manson's madness) then we miss important parts, like his feelings on the enviornament (ATWA). I haven't found anything from the band but all you need to do is try to come up with your own impression, which is what bands want you to do. =) - [User:FireflyAngel|FireflyAngel] Jan 26, 2004 (UTC)