Talk:Bugatti Royale

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How many

We read that all six still exist, but some way below this that only four were made. Um? -- Hoary 08:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Six were built, chassis no. 41100, 41111, 41121, 41131, 41141, 41150. The prototyp 41100 have a crash in 1931 and get a new chassis with the no. 41100 (II).217.9.49.3 14:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There were far more than six built! around 12 to 14. Fritz Schlumpf and his brother collected over 100 Bugatti's and the two!!! type 41 Royale's they owned are still part of their original collection that started over 40 years ago. The museum in Alsace France is the largest private collection of cars in the world approx 500. Owned by the French Government due to unpaid taxes.

Solved - there was one prototype, and six production chassis. I can't find a reference that says differently. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 02:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nr. 41000, the prototype

The prototype still exists and is known as the coupé Napoléon, considered by many as the most beautiful type 41; see this exhibition description. See also this driving report which must, given the year 1926, be about the same prototype, at that time probably with Charles Terres Weymann coachwork. Stating a length of 6.40m is necessarily inaccurate, given that the dimensions of the different coaches could differ widely. The French exhibitor claims a length of 7 metres with the Jean Bugatti designed bodywork. Bertux (talk) 09:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The driving report may also be about nr. 41100, also built in 1926, and known as the Fosters or Park Ward. Bertux (talk) 13:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Solved - someone had gotten the histories of many cars mixed up! Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 02:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Car 41131

The article refers to Bugatti collector John Shakespeare however links to William Shakespeare's father John. I have not updated as this is the first change ive commented on so still learning how. 121.73.50.162 (talk) 05:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)Bullitt[reply]

One of the rarest cars in the world?

I've removed the remark that the Royale is "one of the rarest cars in the world" which to my ears sounds kind of silly. What do you mean by rare? There are many cars of which only one was built, and there is even a yearly festival for such cars, Unique Special Ones. There are also many cars of which only two or three were built, so the Royale of which six were built, can't be one of the rarest.

Or maybe it's possible to say that the Bugatti Royale Park Ward is one of the rarest in the world (tongue-in-cheek here). By which I mean: what do you compare to what? Bugattis are rare compared to Opels. But the Bugatti Royale Park Ward is just as rare as the Opel Kadett with VIN-nr 3145763 (for example). But saying that doesn't mean a thing, in my opinion.

In summary: saying that the Royale of which six were built is rare is arbitrary. (And saying that for instance the Facel-Vega 1956 FV 2 Convertible (the one-off Paris Auto Salon 1955 Show Car) is rare is obsolete.) Saying that a car is rare isn't saying that much. (It is not supported by the sources, either.) Mark in wiki (talk) 11:01, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

another cool photo

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Intended aristocratic owners of existing cars

Is there any information on the intended royal owners of the cars that were made and the ones that didn't get made? It seems like they'd be interesting information to include -Red marquis (talk) 15:20, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]