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2017 Independence Declaration

I just want to say that if it is possible to add information about the Independence Declaration of Republic of Catalonia on 10 October 2017.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.24.96.246 (talk) 21:14, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

addition of poorly sourced material

Protected page. Please discuss changes here.Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:20, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2017

Even if it was for just 8 seconds, today, there was again a Catalan Republic. J bullanga (talk) 21:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please, provide reliable sources that confirm independence was effective for 8 seconds. All of these seem to disagree: CNN, The Guardian, The Independent, BBC, Financial Times, Al Jazeera, Daily Express, Los Angeles Times, MSN, SBS, ABC (Australia), Bloomberg, France24 Impru20 (talk) 21:23, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Nihlus 21:34, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So if something happens but those major sites, who have financial interests and political agendas, do not report on it, it is like it did not happened at all? Bluewave256 (talk) 23:55, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Technically, independence was declared. He just "temporarily suspended its effects" to facilitate diplomacy. That's not the same as not declaring independence or invalidating it completely. Source: The Guardian BBC and others 201.239.163.7 (talk) 00:00, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I watched it live in Catalan. Puigdemont declared the republic (and the declaration was later signed), and he then declared that the legal effects of the declaration would be held in suspension for a few weeks. IThe Republc of Catalonia did not disappear after 8 seconds. It is continuing as a republic in suspension. Cospelero (talk) 02:22, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Republic in suspension", nice new term you seemingly coined, but not what reliable sources say. Impru20 (talk) 07:16, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41574172 I hope this can be considered as a reliable source as major English source since there maybe some rule to not consider the spanish ones according to what I am reading here Catalonia independence declaration SIGNED and suspended "The declaration reads: "We call on all states and international organisations to recognise the Catalan republic as an independent and sovereign state." "As Catalonia's leader announced he would declare independence, thousands of his supporters, watching his speech nearby, on a big screen, were euphoric. But seconds later - when Carles Puigdemont qualified his announcement - and said the declaration would be suspended for several weeks, the disappointment was visible in the crowd." [1]MikeKalash (talk) 08:41, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ BBC News - Catalonia independence declaration signed and suspended http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41574172
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