Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ibrahim Al-Haidos (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Jenks24 (talk) 04:47, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ibrahim Al-Haidos

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I'm sending this back to AFD since all 4 !voters in the previous AFD have been blocked as spammers or undisclosed paid editors. The rationale from before was:

"Article lacks credible citations, and also has a stream of blocked users in the history. It would seem elements of conflict of interest."

SmartSE (talk) 14:49, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Billinghurst: as the previous nominator. SmartSE (talk) 14:50, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: same puff piece appeared at arWP ar:إبراهيم الهیدوس at the same time. Noting that being mentioned in the article as the spokesperson does not give you notability. I have asked an admin at arWP to look at their article to seek their opinion. To me that whole thing has a horrid smell to it. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:29, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
further Comment: On having the article identified to arWP they have put the article up for deletion as not notable person.
Comment: retrospective statement, the corresponding article was deleted at arWP as lacking notability. — billinghurst sDrewth 20:11, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - looks like he has notability in Qatar for Fursan, a style brand more than other works. On social media he has 142k followers on Twitter and Instagram so that may be the source of the socks. Randomeditor1000 (talk) 18:45, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. Most of the cited sources focus more on Qatar Foundation. I found this Huffington Post interview that can be used to bring the focus on the article's subject. If other sources could be found, the chances of this article being kept increases. Alexius08 (talk) 01:59, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- @Alexius08: That interview is not a reliable source: see "Copywriter & Sales Strategist, Webbee Inc." and "This post is hosted on the Huffington Post's Contributor platform. Contributors control their own work and post freely to our site.". SmartSE (talk) 07:38, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - I didn't notice until you pointed it out. I'm now in favor for deletion. Alexius08 (talk) 12:11, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:SIGCOV and being a MEP projects engineer is not notable. His brand Fursan is not notable at this point.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:51, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP all of people who has Wikipedia page haven't verified twitter and face book but all of people who has verified account has Wikipedia page because verification services of social media is only for notable and famous people.this guy has verified Facebook twitter verified.his faceebook and his twitteralso i added new references.he is one of most famous engineer in Qatar.also references proof it to us.

http://www.value-eng.org/members/?id=42313580
http://www.hec.edu/News-Room/HEC-in-the-Press/An-Interview-With-Ibrahim-Al-Haidos-The-Founder-Of-Fursan
https://www.qf.org.qa/content/qf-telegraph/issue-147/contributing-to-the-building https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/an-interview-with-ibrahim-al-haidos-the-founder-of_us_59d938cce4b0cf2548b337bf 5.160.96.167 (talk) 10:44, 21 October 2017 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]

KEEP While exploring Google against his name, I found quite notable pages are mentioning him. There is no need to explain the HuffPost notability which has his interview[1]. Qatar Foundation for Science, Education and Community Development is one of the largest non-profit organization in Qatar, founded in 1995 has shown his notability in [2][3]. HEC Paris has mentioned him in their press relase[4]. James.Richard (talk)
- Note this user is obviously yet another sock. See earlier ref spamming: [5] and promotional article: Ayman Fareed. SmartSE (talk) 19:45, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:23, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:23, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I checked the article and sources. sources is reliable and i got he has done a project with Qatar Foundation in Persian Gulf about solar system as a capital projects directorate which is related to several countries.and other his activities on Qatar makes him famous also guys noticed to good point that his social media is verified.i think he is notable.Lifeisstudyinghard (talk) 14:28, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

deeply suspicious of User:Lifeisstudyinghard, a new account behaving oddly, very oddly, has made a series of slapdash iVotes at a random series of AfDs. and then this purposeful feeling edit.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:49, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for failure to find WP:SIGCOV in my searches.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:54, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-notable engineer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:11, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : Notability of the engineer can be seen via reliable newspaper articles in qatar - Gulf Times , The Peninsula (newspaper) used as reference in the Wikipedia article Jibinkattunilam (talk) 05:46, 23 October 2017 (UTC)— Jibinkattunilam (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Note that I have requested CU on the SPAs: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Amirshahat. SmartSE (talk) 09:39, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I am probing on this article. There is no way to proof this accusation. " it not morality". The second problem about notability, I have also investigated about the notability of the person two months ago, All we know is WP is for developing and extending informations about anything. The main refer always came out with search engines. Search engines like ( google , yahoo , ...) tell everyone about references. When I search the person in Google search engine, he appears in news agencies and his name is mentioned in famous projects. I concluded my arguement with The last thing about block user. It could happen for anybody while some JOHN DOEs editing and take a little time on his page and unfortunatly this folks are block users. So ? What's his / her fault if some immature editors tried to edit the article. This person is notable and deserve to be on Wikipedia as per All Wikipedia policies.46.51.85.103 (talk) 12:28, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP I have done my research on the personality in the article and I found out that most of the information in the article are referenced by reputable websites that are SSL certified and some news papers websites. Though it seems that there are some information are taken from the personality social media accounts and not well-referenced such as His high school name and children , clearly requires some clean up ; however I do believe that the article should stay because it meets notability guidelines.178.152.206.162 (talk) 14:20, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete article as not notable and block all the keep !voters because they're all WP:NOTHERE and probably all sockpuppets as well. Lepricavark (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Emphasizing that every single keep !voter is patently WP:NOTHERE.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:49, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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