Talk:Lloyd M. Bucher
Rebuttal?
The following paragraph doesn't make any sense to me:
"In rebuttal, it was Murphy himself that was totally incompetent, and Murphy's book was in retaliation to the bad marks given him by his skipper both in real life and in Bucher's book "Bucher: My Story" published only a few months before. The crew loved "Pete" Bucher and detested Murphy. Murphy did not know, and probably still doesn't know to this day that he was within inches of being shot and thrown overboard by members of his own crew well before the incident with the North Koreans. Bucher saved his crew, and said publicly for many years that "They were my men, and my responsibility..." and all but one came home alive because of one man's determination, and by saying afterward "I saw no point in sending men senselessly to their deaths.""
Whose "rebuttal" is this? Wikipedia's? What are the sources? What is the point of Bucher's quotes at the end? Mlewan 10:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Removed paragraph. Mlewan 10:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
factually incorrect perspective
This line presents a perspective that is factually incorrect:
"Eventually the US issued a written apology, at which point Commander Bucher and his crew were released"
The N. Korean delegation offered an apology that was composed of text they found acceptable to the US delegation. The US delegation refused to consider, let alone sign, the apology. When the office in charge of the US delegation learned that the N. Koreans would find acceptable an "overwrite" signature simply acknowleding receipt of the crew, the United States representatives signed the document.
Furthermore, the day prior to the signing, the US State Department announced the agreement, with a statement that the Pueblo had not been engaged in any illegal activity. There was, in effect, no retraction from anything.
The text of the overwrite is as follows:
"Simultaneous with the signing of this document, the undersigned aknowledges receipt of 82 former crew members of the USS "Pueblo" and one corpse.
On behalf of the Government of the United States of America,
Gilbert H. Woodward, Major General, United States Army 23 Dec. 1968"
This taken from "A Matter of Accountability", By Trevor Armbrister
I just edited this section deleting or clarifying various opinions that were not directly attributable to Murphy, Bucher or someone else outside Wikipedia. Wikipedia itself is not supposed to render an opinion on any of this -- just to report others'. Someone may want to go back and rewrite some of the deleted materials to meet the WP:NPOV rules.--A. B. 01:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)