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    November 27

    I would like to request a page to be deleted

    As a member of the staff at Caroline Charles, I request for this page to be deleted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Charles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:5003:B00:C451:F145:C54F:A819 (talk) 00:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello IP, The person who the page is about or yourself can't request a page be deleted just because they don't want it. Wikipedia articles are based upon what has been written about the subject in independent reliable sources (any unsourced material is likely to be deleted). An article would only be deleted if certain criteria are fulfilled. I see a request was made for deletion but was reverted as reason given was same as you have requested here. However, any unsourced or poorly sourced information in an article on a living person can be removed by anyone, including you, immediately. NZFC(talk) 01:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    ... but if you are a member of staff you need to make a paid-contribution disclosure before you make any further edits. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:39, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    2A00, "we" sometimes agree to delete a biography on request per something called WP:BIODEL, but that applies to "relatively unknown, non-public figures", and per my reading of the article, that is not the case here. She released a memoir, and The Guardian wrote about it. That´s "public". The article seems ok to me, perhaps a little WP:PROMOTIONAL but not glaringly so, and at a glance the sourcing is decent. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:00, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I have a question about getting permission from someone to add a BioPic to an article.

    I started the article on Maryn McKenna. When I first started the article I was very new to wikipedia guidelines. So I naively posted a biopic to the article without knowing I had to get permission. However, I am DMing Maryn McKenna personally for permission to add a biopic. How do I prove this so I can add a biopic to the article? Book Portal & Talk 16:52, 17 March 2016 (UTC) 05:12, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    BookPortal, basically, the person who owns the copyright (usually the photographer) has to "give" it to us themselves, which means they´re also giving it to almost everybody else. This is why so many of our articles on actors have fan-pics from Comicon etc. Hopefully Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials#Donating_your_photographs can get you started. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:18, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    She's going to give me a picture to use this afternoon. So after she gives me the picture she wants to use, do I upload the picture and then a screenshot of her permission? Book Portal & Talk 16:52, 17 March 2016 (UTC) 14:37, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The way to do this, is get the photographer to email in a OTRS to us. It is simple. A template is here: E-mail template for release of rights to a file. Get the photographer to send this off and then upload the image stating that an OTRS has been submitted. Just submitting and image supplied by Maryn McKenna will most likely get deleted very quickly. You also need to declare on your talk page, your connections with Maryn McKenna. After all, you could be anyone and spouting nonsense and end up getting a ban unless we know your credentials. Hope this helps to clarify the right way to go about this. Aspro (talk) 17:46, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Discussion about deleting Reference desk

    Where's the recent large discussion where some people proposed to delete the whole Wikipedia:Reference desk? Thanks. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 10:54, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/RfC: Should the Reference Desks be closed Nanonic (talk) 11:40, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the advise could you help us.

    Hello I have been away for some time and now I'm back with more recent information about the artist could you please help guide me through the process of editing the draft? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardsylelovers (talk • contribs) 11:11, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Hardsylelovers: Hello, I have left a welcome message which includes some useful links at your talk page. Please study all those links carefully and also WP:REFB, WP:YFA, WP:MOS and WP:GNG. You should also find articles about similar subjects and see how they are laid out etc. Please return here if you have any specific problems which you need help with. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:54, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hardsylelovers: Also, see WP:IB for a list of infoboxes. Eagleash (talk) 14:32, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    My page has vanished from Google Search

    Dear friends, I'm Essa Zahir (actor, artist, author) I created my own page from 2009, re-editing it when needed since. My page always appeared on google Search right at the top. But about two years ago, it just vanished overnight not even appearing on further pages on google (2,3,4 etc).

    Please can you tell me how this has happened?

    And, how can I get it to re-appear on google?

    Many thanks- ESSA ZAHIR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Essa Zahir (talk • contribs) 15:39, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Essa Zahir: Hello, all of your edits seem to be to User:Essa Zahir. This is not a Wikipedia article and has far as I can see has not been one. It is a page in your userspace and as such will not be indexed by Google. It could be a basis for a Wikipedia draft, but would need a considerable amount of work before it could be accepted into the encyclopedia. You should also read WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY if you wish to continue the page as a draft as well as WP:YFA, WP:GNG and WP:REFB together with WP:UP in respect of what you can have on your userpage. On another note it would not be 'your' page, but Wikipedia's page about you which is constructed around what has been written about you in independent reliable sources. Wikipedia has little if any, interest in what a subject has to say about itself and you would be required to suggest edits to the page rather than editing it yourself. Sorry, not to be more encouraging. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 16:46, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Userspace pages got the noindex tag by default in 2015 after discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 126#Userpage drafts shown in search engines. That's why it vanished from Google and we don't want to change that. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:30, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Essa Zahir. I think you are making the (unfortunately very common) mistake of thinking that Wikipedia is in any way connected with your online presence or promoting yourself. It is not, and may not be. If we ever have an article about you, it will not be your article, it will preferably not be written by you, and it will be based almost entirely on what people who are unconnected with you have chosen to publish about you. Please read the links Eagleash has provided to understand better what Wikipedia is and how it works. --ColinFine (talk) 17:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    You should also note that a user page should not pretend to be an article. The page can tell other editors something about yourself (in the first person), and about how you intend to improve the encyclopaedia. Google should never have indexed your user page. You can't get it to appear on Google. Dbfirs 18:39, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Note The userpage has been deleted as speedy U5 not webhost. Eagleash (talk) 02:58, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Questions

    Good Evening, I have got a few questions:

    • Can a biographical article with sources can be nominated for deletion for a lack of sources(WP:BLPPROD?)?
    • What can I do if an article is nominated for deletion in an unwarranted manner?
    • How to remedy to this problem?
    • Can it be considered as Vandalism?

    Thank You for you answers,

    --Les Yeux Noirs (talk) 16:55, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    This seems to relate to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marina Osman where the only rationale for deletion is given as "BLP/PROD" which does not apply if an article has just one ref. in support of one statement. @Les Yeux Noirs: At this point you should just make your point (as you have done) at the deletion discussion. The disc. will be reviewed by an Admin. before closure. Eagleash (talk) 17:07, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank You very much --Les Yeux Noirs (talk) 17:14, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marina Osman is a WP:AFD nomination and not a WP:BLPPROD nomination. The nominator mentioned WP:BLPPROD and probably shouldn't have but WP:AFD is a different process where any article can be nominated. A WP:BLPPROD nomination doesn't have a page to discuss the nomination but just places a tag on the article. The common standard an article should satisfy at AFD is Wikipedia:Notability or a subject-specific guideline like Wikipedia:Notability (people) or Wikipedia:Notability (music). Do not strike the comments of others like you did in [1]. People can strike their own comments if they retract them but there is no sign of that here. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:22, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Need help about citation

    Hi, can you help me please. How do i create a citation-note, based on a online-available official pdf-document (wich is in german-language)? --Tonialsa (talk) 17:32, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Tonialsa, Help:Referencing for beginners has some quick tips that you can use. Thanks, Lourdes 17:36, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, I will read there. Best Regards, --Tonialsa (talk) 17:39, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Tonialsa! I think your question is a bit more specific, in that it might need a follow-up question rather than a simple link to Help:Referencing for beginners; which unfortunately provides no assistance with your particular situation (unless I'm missing something - and I read it all, too). Did you find what you were looking for? What WP article are you trying to create your citation-note; and what link references your online PDF document?Maineartists (talk) 17:56, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Unfortunately i didn´t find there, what i´m looking for. I seek a template, wich allow me to use the URL, the Page-format (PDF), the Date, the Page where the information is to find, and the autor, the date. In deWP look this like that: <ref>{{Internetquelle|url=http://www.statistik.rlp.de/fileadmin/dokumente/berichte/A/1033/A1033_201522_hj_G.pdf|titel=Bevölkerung der Gemeinden am 31.Dezember 2015 - A1033_201522_hj_G.pdf|werk=statistik.rlp.de|seiten=15|datum=2015-12-31|zugriff=2017-11-27|sprache=de|format=pdf}}</ref>. Because I rarely write anything here, its important for me, to use the right remplate, i didnt want to make mistakes here, in enWP. --Tonialsa (talk) 18:06, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    If you look at the interlanguage links from de:Vorlage:Internetquelle you'll see that it links to Template:Internetquelle, which has parameter names in German, whereas the equivalent with parameter names in English is Template:Cite web. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    WOW! So easy?! I think that is, what i was looking for! I didnt know that, many thanks to all of you! --Tonialsa (talk) 18:21, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Should I use terms like crore and lakh?

    I understand that country-specific articles should use the currency of that country, but in an article about India should I use 'Rs 15 crore', like the newspaper articles use? Or should I translate it to Rs 150,000,000? Leschnei (talk) 18:46, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Relevant MOS is Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Numbers_as_figures_or_words. You can use the words lakh and crore, but in the first instance of use link the term and provide a conversion. It is suggested to provide a conversion for all uses if it is not overwhelming. If you do not use the words, you should always write "150,000,000" instead of "15,00,00,000". Xenon54 (talk) 18:54, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Great, thanks User:Xenon54

    Article Worms, Germany

    Hello, i want you to look at the source-code of Worms, Germany. Can anyone here explain me, why the old citation:

    "Gemeinden in Deutschland mit Bevölkerung am 31. Dezember 2015" (PDF). Statistisches Bundesamt (in German). 2016."

    is still in the article? I didnt find it in the source-code.

    Regards, --Tonialsa (talk) 19:00, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    It's coming from the template {{Metadata Population DE-RP}}, which is included by {{Population Germany}}, which is included by {{Infobox German location}}. Bruto (talk) 19:53, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, ok, seems pretty difficult to me. --Tonialsa (talk) 20:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    membership

    how do i sighn up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.218.149.225 (talk) 21:08, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, there is no 'membership' as such, anyone can edit Wikipedia within it's conventions etc. If you are asking how to become a registered editor, then you should see a link at the top of any page you view as an anonymous editor "create account", click that and sign up. It's very easy and makes your editing easier and communication with others easier too. Eagleash (talk) 21:13, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Meghan Markle

    I have tried to add a file in the Ancestry section of Lord Hussey - it has not worked. please fix if you can. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 22:06, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Srbernadette: I have added the file. You may wish to alter the layout (don't 'squeeze' the text between images). For future reference if you go to the file at Commons (where you uploaded it) you will find a ready made correctly formatted link to use to add the file to a Wiki. page. Eagleash (talk) 22:35, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Other editors have already altered your really good presentation. I preferred yours! Please check ref 1 which I have not done. It looks to be in "red:. Thanks 203.132.68.1 (talk) 22:51, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes I have been in discussion with another editor. The images are now in a gallery which is a bit neater and does not stack the images. The first ref has just not been defined...someone has just added it as a ref name. I will remove it and add a citation needed tag for now...it refers to her period of activity as an actress, which I believe she announced recently was to end...specifically in her role in Suits Eagleash (talk) 23:06, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    It's been fixed in the meantime. Eagleash (talk) 23:08, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    November 28

    Draft Publishing

    Is the page Draft: Valley Water Mill Lake published yet and if so why does it still say draft? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Valley_Water_Mill_Lake ThanksSWMO Fishin (talk) 01:06, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @SWMO Fishin: The page is not 'published'. If you consider it is ready for mainspace, you can place {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page which will submit it for review. (I have done some minor tidying). Eagleash (talk) 02:37, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating bio for individual

    I need to create a bio for Sean Connolly, candidate for CT gubernatorial election. There is already a Sean Connolly in Wikipedia, but it is not the same individual. Is it still possible to create this page? CTDem2018 (talk) 01:38, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @CTDem2018: Please read WP:YFA on how to create an article, and then use the article wizard there to create a draft for review. The person you seek to create an article for must be Notable. If you have any connection to the candidate, or are being paid for this work, you will need to disclose that. RudolfRed (talk) 01:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    CTDem2018. The fact that you think that you 'need' to create a bio makes me think that you are here for purposes which are not Wikipedia's purposes. Please be aware that promotion of any kind is forbidden on Wikipedia (and that doesn't just relate to commercial subjects) and that if we do have an article about the candidate it will not be his article, he will not have any control over the contents, and he and his associates will be strongly discouraged from editing the article. Judging by your user name (which I think may be unacceptable according to ROLE, but I'm not certain) you almost certainly have a conflict of interest and may possibly be a paid contributor. Note that candidates for office are not automatically notable for Wikipdia's purposes. You need to read all the link that RudolfRed and I have given before you go any further. --ColinFine (talk) 12:01, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    CTDem2018 The question is not whether running for the CT gubernatorial election is notable, the question is whether being a Department head at the state level is notable, and I don't think it is. Running for Office doesn't add to notability.Naraht (talk) 22:27, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • CTDem2018 - For better or worse, Wikipedia tends to take a very harsh view of biographies of so-called "unelected politicians," since so many of them are flagrantly promotional and related to an upcoming election. I would encourage you to not create this article. Carrite (talk) 12:49, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Christopher Hussey (died 1686)

    I have added a file (photo of Hampton, New Hampshire beach) and it has failed. Please help. Sorry 203.132.68.1 (talk) 02:37, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks as if you copied that from an infobox somewhere (including the parameter name and formatting) which is why it didn't work. If you did, please read WP:CWW and check whether you need to make an appropriate edit summary. It is not OK to copy from other Wiki pages without attribution. Eagleash (talk) 02:54, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    Disambiguation problem! Please add a warning at the top of both of these pages that there is ANOTHER Wikipedia page titled Christopher Hussey. Maybe the page titled Christopher Hussey (died 1686) should be re-titled and called Captain Christopher Hussey. Thanks 203.132.68.1 (talk) 04:10, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    There's a rather more serious problem than disambiguation. You've modified the article to suggest that Meghan Markle has a great-great-great granddaughter, which I must say seems somewhat unlikely. When you've fixed that, please see WP:DLINKS for disambiguation templates. Try them first in the sandbox. If they're giving you fits, feel free to come back to the help desk. RivertorchFIREWATER 04:27, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Dates of death (or more usually, birth) are commonly used as disambiguation. You could add a hatnote to each if desired. Please see WP:HN for how to do this. Eagleash (talk) 04:31, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I am struggling with hat note. I will try to understand hatnote. I have fixed up the genealogical mistake. Please help with hatnote if you have time. I will go to bed now. Thanks 203.132.68.1 (talk) 04:49, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
     Done. Feel free to modify the wording of the hatnotes if you think it needs improvement. RivertorchFIREWATER 17:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I have a question on a edit I did on a voice actress' page

    Her name is Cristina_Vee. It talks about her ancestry in her personal life section. I added categories for instance American actresses of Mexican descent to her page. Why was it deleted? I also added a reference for actor Ray_Santiago saying her is of Latin American descent in his personal section. Could someone add the date of the article in the reference please? I'm not very good computer savy. Thank you. 2001:569:7671:F100:707F:2D10:916:B2CC (talk) 05:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. Your edit on Cristina Vee was reverted by AngusWOOF. I notice that you have already engaged with the editor at Talk:Cristina Vee and have been provided the necessary clarifications. The talk page of the article is the relevant place to continue discussions with respect to the subject; however, feel free to come back here if you need any additional assistance. Thanks, Lourdes 08:32, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Template:User lawyer

    Question about a userbox, please. Is there any policy or practice concerning users falsely claiming statuses or qualifications on their user pages where this would be contrary to real world law? The specific example I have in mind is the lawyer userbox - in many countries it is a fairly serious crime to falsely claim to be a lawyer. The rationale for this law applies with some strength to Wikipedia, too. Rightly or wrongly users who are lawyers are given some deference when it comes to discussions about legal topics, for example. Of course, Wikipedia user identities are often anonymous, so maybe it's not a problem that user xyz is falsely claiming to be a lawyer, because you don't know who xyz is in real life. Any guidance, positive or negative, would be helpful. The same applies to other statuses / qualifications that are legally protected.

    I have an actual editor in mind, but wanted to know whether what they are doing is acceptable before taking this further. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 11:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello PalaceGuard008, if the editor has chosen to remain anonymous, then Wikipedia's privacy policy trumps everything else (almost); in other words, there's no need to investigate whether the editor is really a lawyer or not. He/she can choose to claim their qualifications as they desire; and you should choose to comment on their contributions rather than on anything else. Do feel free to write back for more clarification. Thanks, Lourdes 08:21, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks @Lourdes:, just to be clear, is the position that Wikipedia takes no steps to stop, prevent or investigate things said or done on a user page that would be a crime? WP:PRIVACY isn't clear on that. Not questioning that position, just asking so I know where to take this next. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 18:38, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Bury and Bircle keeps being placed incorrectly

    The definitive correct address is NOT Greater Manchester. It IS Lancashire; see the definitive UK address locator by The Royal Mail. Whomsoever keeps altering this has it wrong! I can assure you of this because I have lived here all my life. Ref: https://www.royalmail.com/branch-finder?page=1

    Kind Regards

    Timothy 

     — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reefermaker (talk • contribs) 12:16, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Reefermaker. I'm afraid that you have stumbled into a big and complicated beast (editing Wikipedia) without quite understanding how we do things. Irrespective of the merits of your edit, reapplying an edit that somebody else has reverted, without discussion, is called edit warring, and is regarded as disruptive behaviour. When Mr Stephen reverted your edit, your proper course (if you were not willing to accept their action) was to begin a discussion with them, either on their user talk page, or normally on the article's talk page Talk:Bircle. The aim would be to reach consensus, between the two of you and anybody else who chose to contribute; and if you could not agree, then there is a procedure to follow for dispute resolution.
    There are far more significant shortcomings in the article Bircle than a pedantic detail in the infobox: most of the material currently in the article is unsourced, and so in a sense worthless; it contains original research, which is not permitted; and it is neither neutral nor encyclopaedic in tone. I will tag it accordingly, and see if I can remove some of the most egregious problems. One of the guiding principles is that Wikipedia is not interested in what you, or I, or any random person on the internet, know, believe, or think: it is only interested in what has been published in a reliable source, so that a reader can in principle go and check it. --ColinFine (talk) 18:50, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, geographic locations, postal regions and local government regions are very different things. You're using Royal Mail postal info, to make a claim that the local government region is wrong. - X201 (talk) 08:54, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    What does a credible claim of importance mean?

    Recently, I've been lurking the new pages log, and I've been noticing people placing A7 CSD tags on pages. I was wondering what a credible claim of significant importance means. I tried reading this essay, but it didn't make any sense. If you can also provide examples, they are welcome. EMachine03 (talk) 12:39, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @EMachine03: It basically means something that would likely qualify it for notability (if it is real) under a specific notability guideline. So for songs, for example, you would have a credible claim of significance if it was number 5 on the Billboard Top 200 or something. That is at least how I understand it. But, the thing you really need to understand for A7 is that it doesn't really qualify on something where you can find at least one article in a reliable source about it, and that it does qualify if it is only mentioned in passing in two or three, at the most, reliable sources. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 12:58, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @EMachine03:, to add to what Riley is saying, a credible claim of significance can be assessed in a new article in broadly two ways.
    1. One, search for a statement within the article that attributes noteworthiness to the subject; for example, as Riley says, "John Doe debuted at #5 on Billboard charts", or "John Doe is the State President of the Democratic Party in Tasmania" or "John Doe was the first cricketer to bat left-handed". The existence of such a statement of noteworthiness/importance/significance within the article would generally ensure that the A7 tag cannot be applied. Such a claim of noteworthiness need not be supported by any reference; the fact that such a claim exists, deems that the A7 cannot be applied (you can of course still choose to PROD the article or take it to AFD if you believe that the article, despite its claim, is not broadly notable and should still be deleted). At the same time, if the claim is evidently false (For example, if your research confirms that it is Jane Doe and not John Doe who is State President of the Democratic Party in Tasmania), you can tag the article for speedy deletion as a hoax, or prod it if you feel the author might have made a good faith error.
    2. Two, if there is no evident claim of significance in the article, check the references provided within the article; if there are multiple, reliable sources provided within the article that discuss the subject significantly, then too the A7 tag should not be applied. For example, if the new article contains just one line: "John Doe is a fitness trainer", the initial view might be that there is no claim of significance. But if the statement is supported by multiple reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of John Doe's life as a fitness trainer, then the A7 should not be applied.
    While the responsibility to provide such a claim of significance (either in words or in references) rests with the person adding the article/material, good form dictates that any new page patroller conducts at least some rudimentary search on their own before tagging any new article on any speedy criteria. Hope this provides some clarification for you. Warmly, Lourdes 08:55, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @EMachine03: to add on the excellent above previous replies: the gray area is really on the "credible" part in my view. A claim of significance is something that, if true, would with a reasonable probability have produced WP:GNG-worthy sources. Fortunately, that is often the point of contention - "John Doe is a teacher at school Foo" is an often-used new article template, and is not a claim of significance. But sometimes the article is making stuff up or embellishing things (e.g. "John Doe received the Nobel prize", or "John Doe made groundbreaking advances in physics") and then it is not always clear what is credible - I tend to use the "if I need to Google to check it, it is credible even if false" standard, but evidently this is too strict (cf. Lourdes' above Tasmania example; also, I don't know by heart the list of all Nobel prize recipients, but I am pretty sure any BLP that comes my way at page patrol claiming that is either a hoax or a WP:A10). TigraanClick here to contact me 18:59, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @EMachine03: See User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to A7. It may answer several of your questions. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    2018 Pac-12 Football standings

    Can you move the Pac-12 football standings from the talk to the draft page please. 68.102.39.189 (talk) 14:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

     Done, but please stop creating content in talk pages. It is not what they are for. Please can you use either WP:WIZ or WP:DRAFTS#Creating and editing drafts to create drafts in future. You have been asked previously to do this. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:54, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I need help with 2 articles please answer as soon as possible

    I did an edit I did on a voice actress' page Her name is Cristina_Vee. It talks about her ancestry in her personal life section. I added categories for instance American actresses of Mexican descent to her page. Why was it deleted? I also added a reference for actor Ray_Santiago saying her is of Latin American descent in his personal section. Could someone add the date of the article in the reference please? I'm not very good computer savy. Thank you. 2001:569:7671:F100:911B:61F8:EF5A:792 (talk) 16:52, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Your edits were reverted per WP:CATDEF because the categories that you added were not considered non-defining for her. Ruslik_Zero 19:48, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Bug on a template used in Dinosaurs page

    If you head on over to Dinosaurs while not logged in, a picture (File:Paul_Stanley_looking_sober.jpg) is shown in a template that is used on the page. I'm not really sure why and the template in question doesn't show it when it's viewed directly (Template:Life_timeline). I'm on Chrome 62 on OSX. Just a note again, please be logged out when viewing Dinosaurs. Logged in for me doesn't have the issue. --WhereAmI (talk) 17:30, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    IMGUR link of the problem: https://imgur.com/a/pYfrF --WhereAmI (talk) 17:32, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @WhereAmI:  Done - Page needed a WP:PURGE - template problem should now be "fixed" - if interested in details, please see => "Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#HELP: Templates broken - need urgent attention?" and "Template talk:Human timeline#Edit request re odd images" - hope this helps in some way - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 18:15, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Celine Dion

    Hi I’m just letting you know that you have still got Celine Dion Record sales at 200 million but she has sold over 250 million albums worldwide now so can you please change that please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:403A:5A00:3585:CADF:1F94:2A98 (talk) 19:11, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you have any source for this claim? Ruslik_Zero 19:43, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @2A02:C7F:403A:5A00:3585:CADF:1F94:2A98: I use google search and found out this web source, does the record sales at the set has sold 10.2 million? SA 13 Bro (talk) 20:22, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    How do you resolve the question whether the Daily Mail (British newspaper) is a reliable source as far as WP is concerned?

    An editor reverted a contribution of mine sourced to the Daily Mail because, according to her, the Daily Mail was not a reliable source. I say it is. Where in WP do I go to resolve this argument? Thanks. Basemetal 21:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Basemetal, unfortunately the other user is correct. It has been decided that the Daily Mail is not a reliable source. If you can, I would see if your information is sourced somewhere else. NZFC(talk) 21:49, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi. Thanks for your help. There are some other sources. But is the Jerusalem Post a reliable source according to WP? How about Fox News? More generally how do I find out if it has been decided at WP that a given news organization was not a reliable source? Basemetal 22:04, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    That I'm not sure as there is no definite list of what is reliable, however I'd incline to be bold with those sources and add the information in. The only reason I know that Daily Mail was rejected as I saw it here. NZFC(talk) 22:16, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    You mean "here at the helpdesk"? Basemetal 22:22, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry yes, I only learnt Daily Mail wasn't been used as a source any more here at the help desk. NZFC(talk) 22:30, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Basemetal. There is not a list of reliable or unreliable sources, partly because reliability is not a single yes/no: a source can be reliable for some purposes, but not for others. The place to go is the reliable sources noticeboard. If you search its archives, you will find that the Mail has been discussed many times. If you don't find your question asked in the archives, you are welcome to raise a new one there. --ColinFine (talk) 22:34, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, being that other user who reverted Basemetal, I can also say that the article in question was Rula Jebreal, that is, a WP:BLP. The Daily Mail was used as a source about the breakup of her marriage: totally inappropriate, IMO. I don't know if it can be sourced elsewhere, but if none of the parties have discussed the reasons for the divorce openly, then I would say it is all speculations, which should not go into Wikipedia, Huldra (talk) 23:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Even speculations can go into Wikipedia, even in a case where WP:BLP applies, as long as we're talking public figures, the source of the allegation is considered reliable from the point of view of WP, and the statement is clearly qualified as an allegation (of the reliable source) and not as a fact. See: WP:PUBLICFIGURE. I'll see what I can find other than the Mail. Basemetal 00:21, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Basemetal, here's the Daily Mail Rfc. You're right in the assessment that any noteworthy news about the subject covered by multiple reliable sources belongs to the article. The objective of Wikipedia is not to sensationalize and destroy the lives of (even well-known) individuals; therefore, use good judgement and judicious discretion to insert negative news; and use the talk page of the article liberally when in doubt, as even reliable sources many a time have tabloid articles that contain irresponsible reporting. Thanks, Lourdes 03:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Basemetal: Notice also that the case of the Daily Mail is unique and recent. No other specific source is on either a blacklist or a whitelist for general purposes. The specific RfC ended up that way because (1) the DM is a source that many people want to cite (being a highly-circulated newspaper), so it makes sense to investigate it in particular, and (2) it has a history of fabricating quotes. The RfC was, in my view, more about demoting the DM to the same status as a random website (that is, not reliable unless proven otherwise) when being a high-circulation newspaper is usually enough to guarantee RS status in most cases (that is, reliable unless proven otherwise). TigraanClick here to contact me 18:37, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    November 29

    Recent Edit to Oran Wendle Eagleson's Page

    Oran Wendle Eagleson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    Hello, my name is Natalie. I recently made a lot of changes to black psychologist, Oran Wendle Eagleson's page, however, upon checking the page a few hours later, I found that it had been reverted back to a previous version by user Majora. I am not sure why exactly why this occurred, as all my additions were cited or else wording edits, and I am wondering if there is a way that any (if not all) of my additions could be salvaged, as I truly believe that they enhance Eagleson's page and give a fuller picture of his life and contributions. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.92.4 (talk) 00:02, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Majora (talk · contribs) explained in their edit summary that your edits were reverted because they had a bad case of "promotional language issues" and language so closely paraphrased from https://honorsandawards.iu.edu as to constitute plagiarism. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:20, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Natalie. This is a normal part of Wikipedia operation: if somebody reverts your edit, your principal choices are to let it go, or to attempt to engage the other party in a discussion on the article's talk page. Majora's opinion is that the edits you made were not in neutral language, and that they may have been a copyright violation. If you think your additions were worth including (as you clearly do), it is up to you to get wording that Majora, and anybody else who joins the discussion, agree with.(Of course, you may feel that Majora's judgments were wrong, and try to convince them or others of that. But I observe that calling somebody a "pioneer" is not a neutral term, and should never be done in Wikipedia's voice. Please read about the Bold, revert, discuss cycle, and about neutral point of view. --ColinFine (talk) 23:10, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about Cristina Vee

    Why shouldn't there be a category for her being of Mexican descent? Salma Hayek as a category being of Mexican descent. 2001:569:7671:F100:6806:57DC:A814:F459 (talk) 00:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    You have to get the category's name right. In this case, that would be Category:American actresses of Mexican descent. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:31, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @2001:569:7671:F100:6806:57DC:A814:F459: I have added the Category for you. SA 13 Bro (talk) 00:37, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    You need to take account of WP:CATDEF, as mentioned in the related thread #I need help with 2 articles please answer as soon as possible above. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:40, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @David Biddulph: Oh, thanks for your head up, I didn't noticed that is a related thread issue at above. SA 13 Bro (talk) 00:50, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Christina's ethnicity in the categories not listed and its not fair. Why should that happen for other latino actors and her? 2001:569:7671:F100:6806:57DC:A814:F459 (talk) 01:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you read WP:CATDEF? If you have questions regarding a specific article the place for discussion is the article's talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:56, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    This is one of those cases where her ethnicity isn't prominently listed in the news articles describing her, and the only source was from an AMA session where she replies that she is of Mexican, Native American, and Lebanese ancestry. Should this mean she should be categorized in those three ethnicities? Should actors and people in general who mention their ethnicity like they're a quarter of this and an eighth of that be categorized as such? It's different from Hayek's article where "Mexican-born" and "born in Mexico" is shown on multiple news articles. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:05, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Donating

    Hi,

    I would like to know why I should donate to Wikipedia after my official articles are rejected for silly reasons. I recently submitted a page for my official social issues based social network (which is supported by the BBC and many others) and it was rejected because I provided 1 article from a newspaper you didn't support.

    I would happily donate if your admins/editors would show your support for a Community Organisation.

    - Jamie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.182.124 (talk) 02:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Jamie, without commenting on your quid pro quo assessment, which draft/article might you be referring to? Thanks. Lourdes 03:37, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    The only draft edited by this IP (and other editors to that draft) is / was Draft:Travis Simpkins, but that is not about a social network. It was however, rejected as The Sun (UK) and IMDb are not held to be reliable. Donating is entirely voluntary and a personal decision. Eagleash (talk) 10:01, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Jamie. I don't know whether or why you should donate: I don't know whether or why anybody should. I know why I donate: partly because I think it is a valuable resource and I want it to continue to be; at least as much because it is a model of a non-commercial collaborative project, and I wish there were more of these with anything like the reach of Wikipedia.
    I strongly support the rules which limit the ability of people to promote themselves or their enterprises (commercial or not) - my preference would be to ban paid editing entirely, but the consensus is to permit it under stringent control. I believe that information which is not cited to a published source is almost completely useless (because anybody can come along and accidentally or maliciously change it, and if there is no source, it is impossible to verify it); and that information that is cited to an unreliable source is worse than useless, because even if you check it you've no way of knowing that it has not been made up, mistranscribed, or dishonestly altered. (Not all information even in reliable sources is accurate, it is true, but it's much more likely to be so in a source with a reputation for fact-checking and editorial control). Therefore, unless there is substantial information about a subject in reliable published sources (and for some of the information, it needs to be sources independent of the subject) there is literally nothing that can usefully go in an article. That, in my view is why we insist on the unfortunately-named quality of notability.
    This has been my personal view, but I think that many people here agree with me. Wikipedia runs on consensus, and like anybody else, you are free to try and change the consensus on almost any of Wikipedia's policies (WP:VP is the place to discuss doing so). --ColinFine (talk) 23:29, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    An academic question

    Dear Sir/Madame,

    My name is Fabio Fantuzzi and I am a doctoral candidate at Università degli Studi Roma Tre, Rome. I am carrying out a research project on the painter and teacher Norman Raeben, one of the sons of Sholem Aleichem, and on his influence on his art students.

    As I found that at that several pages of Ashcan School's painters (i.e. those of John Sloan, Robert Henri and others) mention Raeben among their famous students, I wonder if I can have the contact of the person that edited those page to ask him if he has some information about him.

    I thank you in advance for any help and assistance you may give me.

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    With all best wishes,

    Fabio Fantuzzi Dottorando in "Lingue e Letterature Anglo-Americane" Dipartimento di Lingue, Letterature e Culture Straniere Università degli Studi Roma Tre — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabio Fantuzzi (talk • contribs) 03:49, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Fabio Fantuzzi, Wikipedia pages are edited by lots of people, so it is difficult to attribute the writing of an article to any one editor. However, by viewing the edit history of an article (click the view history tab), you can find editors who have started or improved the article substantially. Many of the articles have been created many years ago, so the page creators may not be active on Wikipedia, but you can still try. You can contact them by leaving a message on their talk page, or emailing them (click email this user while on their user page), if the option is available. Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 03:59, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Neither of these facts are properly sourced by 2017 standards of the encyclopedia, so any work done to verify and footnote that information would be appreciated. Carrite (talk) 12:38, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Editor making mass changes to EL sections

    The editor [2] is making masses of changes to External Links in a very large number of pages. The timings indicate that they are spending very little time (typically less than 30 seconds) pruning the EL sections. Now I know that the EL section is one that is prone to abuse, and prone to spamming. But they seem to be removing all but the one main "official site". Any other links are just cut. No attempt is being made to incorporate the links into the body.

    As an example, the edits to AsciiDoc at [3] removed all three non-official site external links. One link was broken, but I would consider two of the three to be useful, relevant, non-spammy additions to the page.

    My reversal of one of their edits[4] was thanked by another user, but reverted by Stesmo.[5] In this case, they were to the same official site, but added useful commentary and easy navigation to an important part of that site. Their justification was that it violated WP:ELPOINTS 4, but that is a guideline, not a rule, and there is still justification for keeping those links.

    My fear is that they are removing large amounts of useful content from wikipedia with very little thought. The rate of their changes indicates they cannot be effectively reviewing their edits, and requires a large amount

    Is this acceptable behaviour? Is their any way to slow them down so their edits can be effectively reviewed?

    Thanks for your help.

    peterl (talk) 11:57, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm with Stesmo. If the official site links in turn to those other three sites, that's fine, readers can find them that way. And if it doesn't link to them, then why should we? Maproom (talk) 12:03, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Edits look good to me. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:53, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    editing Harris Search Associates wikipage

    Good morning. Harris Search Associates wiki page was deleted - it was listed under executive search firms. The fellow who developed it believed he had been careful to have it properly documented - can it be revisited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JeffreyGHarris (talk • contribs) 12:33, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @JeffreyGHarris: Hello, if you (or any user) represent or work for the organization you mention, you/they need to review the conflict of interest policy at WP:COI and if you are employed by this organization, the paid editing policy at WP:PAID. The latter is required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use for paid editors(if you are paid). I can't see the content of the page to know what was wrong with it(though an administrator can) but it was speedy deleted as promotional. This could be if it was actively promoting the sale of a product or service, or merely telling the world about the company(even if not selling something). All articles on Wikipedia must indicate with independent reliable sources, that is, sources written by third parties not associated with the company, how it meets the notability guidelines at WP:ORG. Not every company merits an article here, even within the same field. 331dot (talk)
    JeffreyGHarris. I also cannot see the deleted page (I am not an administrator). But in addition to the points made by 331dot, please understand that any Wikipedia article about Harris Search Associates would not be owned by or controlled by Harris Search Associates, should not be directly edited by them, and should be based almost completely on what people who had no connection with them had published about them in reliable places. Many people have the mistaken idea that Wikipedia can or should be part of their marketing strategy or their online presence. It cannot and should not. --ColinFine (talk) 23:34, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Sandbox

    My sandbox does not have the edit option. How do I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nastaranalqaddoumi (talk • contribs) 12:36, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The edit link is above near Read and View history links. Ruslik_Zero 18:14, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I add a date and month of birth?

    Merle Lawrence states the year of birth. How can I add day and month on this site? Merle Lawrence — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumours54 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 29 November 2017 (UTC)}[reply]

    Dear Rumours54, to edit the page, click the "edit this page" tab at the top of Merle Lawrence. You can click the "edit this page" tab on any other Wikipedia page to learn how other pages have added the date and month of birth. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 16:59, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Rumours54 and Taketa: Notice however, that per our policy of privacy of personal information inside articles, we should not state the day/month of birth in articles of living or recently deceased (emphasis added) persons. "Recently deceased" is voluntarily a sloppy standard because it usually applies to controversial figures (for instance, when a high-profile politician dies, smearing rumors from political opponents continue to circulate and should not be referenced without good sourcing), so I think in that particular case it does not apply, but this should have been mentioned by Taketa in their answer. TigraanClick here to contact me 18:17, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tigraan: - WP:BDP, the person is confirmed death by the reliable sources on the bottom of the page. "Anyone born within the past 115 years is covered by this policy unless a reliable source has confirmed their death. The only exception would be for people who have recently died. I do not consider 10 years recent, though this is open to discussion. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 18:41, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Taketa: I agree with your assessment; actually, the "recently deceased" stuff got me carried away a bit. The main point is that (IMO) you should have mentioned the BLPPRIVACY policy even if it does not apply. It is not a stretch to assume that if you tell someone to add the date of birth for person X, they will want to add it for person Y, so you should as well say what the rules are even if they do not apply to X. (But maybe we can take this to one of our talk pages if you want to discuss it further?) TigraanClick here to contact me 18:47, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit count

    Hello, I was trying to retrieve the edit xount for Special:Contributions/InternetArchiveBot but the corresponding page cannot be loaded. Is there a general problem with edit count?--Herfrid (talk) 16:21, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hey Herfrid. Seems to partially work for me. Although it looks like the edit counter can't handle an account with more than 350k edits, and this bot has almost two million. GMGtalk 16:26, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm afraid you're right! Maybe I just wasn't patient enough... Thank you anyway.--Herfrid (talk) 16:31, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Dear Herfrid, maybe Central Auth can help you quickly get some basic numbers. All the best, Taketa (talk) 17:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, thank you very much!--Herfrid (talk) 17:03, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there a place where I can ask for a source to be translated?

    Specifically [6]. I can read a little Spanish but for El Tatio I need to have it almost entirely translated and that is beyond my knowledge of Spanish. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:26, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    [7] as well. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:48, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Dear Jo-Jo Eumerus, perhaps you can ask one of the people here. - Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 16:55, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Dear Jo-Jo Eumerus
    I am fluent in Spanish and have done translation work in the past. I would be willing to translate the journal article [8]. I have had a quick read and it seems relatively straight forward. Are you able to send me the text that you have translated so far, and I should be able to fill in the blanks? Translating a journal article is a big job, and it may take a week or two to complete the task. Due to other commitments, I would not be able to start on it until next week. The second article appears to be an abstract only and already has an English translation. Therefore the second article does not appear to need a translation. BronHiggs (talk) 20:56, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @BronHiggs: To be honest I didn't attempt any translation myself; I can only read Academic Journal Spanish. The other article has a Spanish full text here. I don't have a deadline, fer sure. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:03, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Dear Jo-Jo Eumerus I am prepared to translate the first article on a volunteer basis. But it is very labour intensive because of its length and the amount of technical language. I do not feel that I can translate two academic journal articles in quick succession. Perhaps you might like to shop around for a different translator for the second article? I will get started on it next week and post the translation on your talk page when it is completed. BronHiggs (talk) 23:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @BronHiggs: Sure, I'll look for a different solution on the second article. Incidentally, I am not sure if it should be posted on the wiki; the SciElo article is under a noncommercial license and thus not compatible with our copyright licenses. Would email work? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:37, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Reversing a page move

    How do I undo a page move, to restore the previous title? Thanks. Loraof (talk) 18:23, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Push pin maps

    Resolved

    So looking at Big South Fork of the Cumberland River, apparently to get a pushpin map, somehow Template:Infobox river works with Template:Location map works with Template:Location map USA Tennessee works with | source1_coordinates={{Coord|36.424302|-84.623516|display=inline}} in order to make magic happen. But... I got no magic. I'm not technically gifted. GMGtalk 22:51, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    regarding the header to your current fund-raising drive

    >> WIKIPEDIA communicated thusly: "We ask you, humbly, to help."

    >> By way of asserting humility, ye provest thyself proud. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.244.82.164 (talk) 23:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    >> Thank you. Lourdes 03:58, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    November 30

    Just created a page. Did I do it right?

    No clue what I am doing. Our African Grey Petra just went viral on Youtube learinig to control the lights with Alexa. She's been all over the world on TV. If I didn't do it right, can someone help me? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PetraGrey (talk • contribs) 01:16, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi PetraGrey Unfortuanly you have got wrong what Wikipedia is for. It is not a webhost and articles shouldn't be created on a user page. As for the article, I'm not sure it would meet notability requirements to have an article on Wikipedia. NZFC(talk) 01:27, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi PetraGrey. I've moved the page to User:PetraGrey/Petra Grey and marked it as a draft. There are links to instructions that can help you at the top of the page. --NeilN talk to me 01:50, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Name of page linking to incorrect picture from similarly named page (KOB page showing picture of kob, an antelope in Africa)

    Hi, hope you can help me. Our tv station's page KOB is showing a pic (rather undignified one at that) of some kobs in Africa. How can we change this? Since our formal name is KOB 4 , would adding the 4 in our page name help? If yes, how do we do that? Thank you for helping !!!

    NMpeacock (talk) 01:33, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. NZFC(talk) 01:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @NMpeacock: You should also read WP:COI if you wish to edit the page KOB. On another note it would not be 'your' companies page, but Wikipedia's page about them which is constructed around what has been written about the company in independent reliable sources. NZFC(talk) 01:48, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    The undignified picture used by Google is not one currently used in Wikipedia's article kob. Maybe Google found it somewhere else? Maproom (talk) 15:50, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Random Character Usernames

    Lately I have been seeing several usernames with seemingly random strings of numbers and letters, in blocks of 4, separated by colons. (Examples: user:2604:2000:E016:A700:E067:330B:890A:138, User:2601:CF:8101:327:3C0C:73D0:5CFA:D1BD, User:2600:1:9507:C18A:18CF:FDF8:43A3:AA4F). Where are these coming from? They seem new to me. MarginalCost (talk) 02:14, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Those are IP addresses. They are editors who are contributing without creating an account or logging in if they have one. (See IPv6 address &/or IP address#IPv6 addresses). Eagleash (talk) 02:37, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to make a donation to wikipedia but I don't want to use my credit card. I would really like to contact by telephone and ask questions.

    I would like to donate to Wikipedia but do not want to use my credit card.
    This page shows different ways to give, such as by check or wire transfer or bitcoins or several other methods that don't use a credit card: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give RudolfRed (talk) 02:49, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, I don't know of any phone number, but you can e-mail donate@wikimedia.org if you have questions. RudolfRed (talk) 02:51, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    2018 NCAA Division I Indepedents football page

    Can you move the 2018 NCAA Division I football Independents page from the talk page to the Draft page please. 68.102.39.189 (talk) 04:46, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    This IP has been told on countless occasions not to create drafts on a talk page, most recently at #2018 Pac-12 Football standings above. The most recent page moved from talk to draft (Draft:2018 Pac–12 football standings) was then blanked by the IP, but it is not clear whether he intended this as a G7 deletion request. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:04, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    It might also be argued that the unsourced 2018 NCAA Division I FBS football season, calling numerous non-existent templates including the one referred to, is TOOSOON. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    EN Standard Inclusion i.e., EN 14175 Standard

    Hello,

    This is Yuvakanth, I'm a Manager for a firm called Simfa Scientific who deals with Biotechnology and Pharmaceutical Company requirement for new lab or facility setups. Our brands are Mott Manufacturing, Canada & Laborbau Systeme Hemling GmbH, Germany.

    With respect to the brands above which I mentioned there are few standards that our products are certified with. About which there is no data under List of EN Standard page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_EN_standards ; With respect to that, I request to please post data about EN 14175 which is a standard for Fume Hood(Fume Cupboard) Testing or Validation. I do have few articles and presentations from the internet, however, I think I'm not qualified for posting them in Wiki right away as we need to do some filtration out of them. Kindly let me know how to proceed with this to include the data in Wiki.

    Thank you,

    Regards, KLN Yuvakanth

    Error {Placeholder error message}.

    I found error in this template Template:Get refs --Hayate891 (talk) 09:09, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Hayate891: I have made an edit request. (For future reference you can do this by clicking 'view source' and then there's a button to make the request.) Thanks for pointing this out. Eagleash (talk) 09:25, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Wow thanks :). --Hayate891 (talk) 11:08, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)  Fixed The edit has been made (by an Admin. or t/plate editor) to remove the 'stray text'. Eagleash (talk) 11:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    2018 Pac-12 Football standings

    Can you move the Pac-12 Football standings from the draft page to the main article space please and make the articles turn from Blue to red. 68.102.39.189 (talk) 15:38, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    You blanked the draft (Draft:2018 Pac–12 football standings), so obviously it can't be published as an article. Even before you blanked it, the draft was unsourced, and you hadn't submitted the draft for review; apparently too soon for such an article. As you were the only contributor to the draft and you blanked it, this would normally be taken as your request for the page to be deleted under criterion G7. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:33, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Biz Television

    I am trying to update this page and keep getting errors. I need help. I have tried to do what has been asked so far but there is so much confusion and frustration on my end. I need someone to help me get through these pages and stop sending me here and there to read. I have been reading all of it each time and it still is not making sense to me. I need a person to help me.

    I see that today, some blatant advertising, some copyright material, and some "references" which were nowhere cited have been removed from the article. But it's still well below the standards Wikipedia expects: it does nothing to establish that its subject is notable, and is therefore at risk of being deleted. You don't say which edits you made, or what you were trying to do, so it's difficult to know how to help you. Maproom (talk) 17:51, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    How to get an article about our company to show on WIKI?

    Hi,

    I would like to know how can I publish an article about our company on wiki?

    Best, Jasmine — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.106.215.6 (talk) 18:21, 30 November 2017‎ (UTC)[reply]

    The short answer is "you don't". Hopefully, your company will attain sufficient notability that some volunteer editor will decide to create an article based on reliable sources independent of the subject. Somebody will presumably provide relevant links for you to review (below). Good luck! ;) 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:64E6:D15B:14E5:3BCB (talk) 19:19, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    The relevant links are notability, conflict of interest, and paid editing. The important thing to remember is that this is an encyclopedia and not a business directory. If you still want to move forward, read your first article and use the article wizard there to create a draft for review. RudolfRed (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Godless (TV Series)

    Hello,

    On the Godless TV Series page under creators (the box on the far right) can you remove Steven Soderbergh as a creator and only list Scott Frank? (Steven Soderbergh is not a creator).

    Created by Scott Frank

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godless_(TV_series)

    Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5516154/

    GL6255 (talk) 19:13, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    GL6255 (talk) 19:22, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @GL6255: The best place to discuss this is on the article's talk page. IMDb is not considered a reliable source for this kind of information and "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" (meaning just because he is not included in credits on IMDb doesn't necessarily mean he should not be). The Steven Soderbergh article includes Godless as a credit; however, this is not sourced. Perhaps the Entertainment reference desk would be able to find source(s) for this. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:64E6:D15B:14E5:3BCB (talk) 19:36, 30 November 2017 (UTC) (Modified: 20:06, 30 November 2017 (UTC))[reply]


    Thank you for the above! The info of removing Steven is from the network. Is this possible to update?

    Scott Frank is the creator/EP/Writer/Director (Steven is not the creator, but an EP, along with Scott and Casey Silver too).

    Here is an article from Variety stating: "Godless, a new seven-part original limited series from creator Steven Soderbergh, will premiere on Netflix Nov. 22" (emphasis mine) -- has something changed since then?
    • Nyren, Erin (23 August 2017). "Steven Soderbergh's 'Godless' Gets Premiere Date, First-Look Images at Netflix". Variety. Retrieved 30 November 2017.
    —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:64E6:D15B:14E5:3BCB (talk) 19:52, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    Correct, Steven is just an EP. Scott Frank is the sole creator.

    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/godless-netflix-jeff-daniels-michelle-dockery-scott-frank-1202617026/

    Article from November 16, 2017.

    Can we update the page?

    Thank you!


    GL6255 (talk) 20:06, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the source! I'll correct the information later today.—2606:A000:4C0C:E200:64E6:D15B:14E5:3BCB (talk) 20:28, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
     Done 21:08, 30 November 2017 (UTC)


    Thank you! Could you make the above edit directly on the Godless TV Series page?

    GL6255 (talk) 21:13, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello,

    On the Godless TV Series Page, why is Jeff Daniels listed last? He is billed third behind Jack O'Connell and Michelle Dockery.

    SOURCE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMUiRYoc76A

    Any way you can update this?

    Thank you!

    GL6255 (talk) 21:40, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know what WP protocol is for credit listing order. The "encyclopedic" method might be alpha-sort (?). You can change it if you want; my firewall restricts YouTube. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:64E6:D15B:14E5:3BCB (talk) 22:16, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

    HELP. I was trying to add a statement on the "GcMAF" page and made a mistake. It will not let me correct my mistake. I need you help. Please restore the page to its original appearance before I attempted to update it. Thanks. My ID is PageMaster. I will go back later and try again.

    Meghan Markle

    The warning tag at the top of the Ancestry section of this page should now be removed we believe; all citations are now verified and authentic and the presentation is certainly now neutral - see the Talk page. Thankyou in advance49.188.128.253 (talk) 22:09, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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