User talk:BOZ
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Joker (character) nominated for deletion
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Nomination of Al'Akbar for deletion
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Nomination of Kord (Greyhawk) for deletion
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Nomination of Lamashtu (Dungeons & Dragons) for deletion
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Nomination of Lydia (Greyhawk) for deletion
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Nomination of Regalia of Might for deletion
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Proposed deletion of Timberius
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Speedy deletion nomination of Joy Meachum
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Dominic Covey
Hi Boz. I'm not sure if you're aware, but Draft:Dominic Covey was deleted awhile back. I've been looking at the requests you've left me on my talk page, and that one I haven't looked/found sources yet. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:31, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
- MrLinkinPark333, yeah, thanks for getting back to me. That one, along with Draft:Ethan Skemp and Draft:Richard Ranallo were deleted for being unsourced. I tried to find even the barest minimum of sources to keep them as drafts but came up empty. If you can find anything at all, I would love to restore them. BOZ (talk) 06:45, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Reviewed!
Hi, I've reviewed some of your pages - please expand them and add citations to ensure that they assert significance to warrant a Wikipedia article. Thanks! DrStrauss talk 23:26, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
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Nomination of Maha Yogi for deletion
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Nomination of Phoenix Games for deletion
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Ways to improve Star-Dancer
Hi, I'm ONUnicorn. BOZ, thanks for creating Star-Dancer!
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Article relies entirely on citations to the comics she appeared in. Needs citations to outside sources to show real-world context and notability.
The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.
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Headsup about stub articles
Hey, there. I am thinking about creating some stub articles for RPG designer stubs, and might draw on some of the material you have in draft form (e.g. Grabowski and Marsh). Would this be alright with you? Newimpartial (talk) 16:23, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- If you want to work on those drafts, you can do it directly and/or I can move them back into article space. If you're talking about something else, I'm not sure what you mean. BOZ (talk) 05:43, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks! I'll do it when I'm ready. Newimpartial (talk) 11:19, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Sounds good, Newimpartial! Anything you feel like working on at User:BOZ/Draft pages, if you can get a reliable source or two I will move back into article space. :) Any of the redlinks I can restore if you want to work on them. BOZ (talk) 00:54, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- Please see the note I wrote you on my Talk page. Also, Do you have anything on Robert Hatch (game designer)? I created a placeholder for him, too. (And a couple for ORE games, but I know that's not your thang lol).Newimpartial (talk) 21:19, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- So, I released Robert Hatch into the world last night; thanks for your help. If you had a chance to think about sourcing for my userspace article, Line developer, I would appreciate it. I want to get that one finished before I put out the Grabowski and Baugh articles. Newimpartial (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Very busy today, so I don't have time to really work on anything, but maybe tomorrow. Just for future reference, especially on the ones I have in draft space, you can always just use the "move" fuction to retain the edit history, rather than doing a cut and paste. BOZ (talk) 18:40, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks! No rush on anything, just in case you have the time, I wanted you to know what was up next for me. I published using "move", but I guess it never occurred to me to use "move" to fix a title issue. Now I know. :) Newimpartial (talk) 18:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Very busy today, so I don't have time to really work on anything, but maybe tomorrow. Just for future reference, especially on the ones I have in draft space, you can always just use the "move" fuction to retain the edit history, rather than doing a cut and paste. BOZ (talk) 18:40, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not to be a pain, but could you check something else when you have a chance? The Category:Live-action role-playing game designers has a red link to an article Live-action role-playing game designers. Did that ever exist? If it did, could you dig up an old draft? I'm not sure I want to make an article, but I'm thinking of adding some more content to the List of role-playing game designers in this vein. No rush, though. Whenever you have a chance.Newimpartial (talk) 05:17, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not a problem, but in this case that page never existed. BOZ (talk) 12:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking! Line developer won't be ready til the weekend, I think, in case you can think of a source besides Designers to edit in. I think I'm going to have to make a brief historical summary to have grounds for WP:N for that article.
- I think it's important, because one of the categories of people that keep running into WP:NOTABILITY problems is game designers who are more notable as line developers than for their author credits. White Wolf made this particularly bad by crediting game creators as "lead designers" or "lead developers" and treating authorship more like what would be "contributing author" status for other companies, but I am implementing work-arounds for this problem as I go. However, it would be good to have a backstop for cases like Grabowski where I think notability is obvious, but it is based on the relationship between the line developer and the notable work.Newimpartial (talk) 12:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have my own feelings about Notability which does not necessarily match with the most commonly-held attitudes among Wikipedians. ;) I say go for it, if you have at least one good WP:RS we can always try to find more, but one good one is a good place to start. BOZ (talk) 01:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- I imagine you do have some feelings. ;) It is too bad about the Emily Care Boss article; I have a feeling people didn't have the Platinum Appendix at hand when editing that one. Anyway, I've found bloody peer reviewed scholarship attesting to her importance, so when I'm done with that article (hopefully by the end of the month) there should not be any issues with WP:N. Thanks for fighting the good fight, though. Newimpartial (talk) 01:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have my own feelings about Notability which does not necessarily match with the most commonly-held attitudes among Wikipedians. ;) I say go for it, if you have at least one good WP:RS we can always try to find more, but one good one is a good place to start. BOZ (talk) 01:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not a problem, but in this case that page never existed. BOZ (talk) 12:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- So, I released Robert Hatch into the world last night; thanks for your help. If you had a chance to think about sourcing for my userspace article, Line developer, I would appreciate it. I want to get that one finished before I put out the Grabowski and Baugh articles. Newimpartial (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- Please see the note I wrote you on my Talk page. Also, Do you have anything on Robert Hatch (game designer)? I created a placeholder for him, too. (And a couple for ORE games, but I know that's not your thang lol).Newimpartial (talk) 21:19, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- Sounds good, Newimpartial! Anything you feel like working on at User:BOZ/Draft pages, if you can get a reliable source or two I will move back into article space. :) Any of the redlinks I can restore if you want to work on them. BOZ (talk) 00:54, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks! I'll do it when I'm ready. Newimpartial (talk) 11:19, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Great, keep up the good work! BOZ (talk) 01:51, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Hey, sorry to bother you again, but I have another question. I see that the Nicotine Girls article is currently a redirect, as a result of an AfD discussion based on a short article (which doesn't seem to have observed that the game was notable because of its Indie award, but anyway, the sourcing of the article could have been better). I'm not working on it tonight, but when I have something ready, could you stop the redirect so that we could put up the article? I'm not sure exactly how to do that, and I imagine you do. :) Newimpartial (talk) 03:44, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- Easy enough, Newimpartial! Just go to this link: [1] and edit! Make sure to add your sources ASAP before someone reverts you. BOZ (talk) 21:07, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
You might think about moving from draft to userspace anything you have that is more than six months stale or that has been rejected at AfC, as the deletor is extraordinarily active at the moment. Newimpartial (talk) 01:28, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not too worried about them getting deleted, but hey if you've got anything that will improve any of them then we have less of a reason to worry about that. :) BOZ (talk) 02:31, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Nomination of World of Dark Sun for deletion
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Nomination of River Oceanus for deletion
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Nomination of Mount Olympus (Dungeons & Dragons) for deletion
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Nomination of Yggdrasil (Dungeons & Dragons) for deletion
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RE:Menzoberranzan
Hey BOZ. I can't remember whether they talked about it, but I'll look through those reviews and send you whatever I find. It almost feels like I saw them mention it a few times. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 07:51, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- JimmyBlackwing, thanks! I will take whatever you can find. :) BOZ (talk) 11:23, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, looking through the reviews, there wasn't much in the way of commentary on the city. The best material was in this review, but I doubt it even that will be helpful. If all else fails, you could try the game's official manual and cluebook. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 00:22, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- You're right, but thanks for checking! BOZ (talk) 04:22, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, looking through the reviews, there wasn't much in the way of commentary on the city. The best material was in this review, but I doubt it even that will be helpful. If all else fails, you could try the game's official manual and cluebook. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 00:22, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Question re "merges"
What is the proper procedure for merging articles? I've noticed a couple of times that TTN simply redirects the article to be lost, but does not transfer any material. In effect, the article to be lost is simply deleted. Is this proper form? Or is the "re-director" also supposed to merge some material from the redirected article? Guinness323 (talk) 06:33, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't think he's under any obligation to merge anything, as the difference between merge and redirect is an editorial decision. It would be polite of him to do some of the actual merging, but I am not holding my breath for politeness there. Naturally, he wants the material gone from WP, so why would he want to include it anywhere else? On the other hand, it would be improper for him to prevent anyone else from merging it properly. BOZ (talk) 11:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Davey2010, for the record going back through 6/29/2017 that would include the following redirects after AFD: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] and those you are already aware of: [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] as well as: [24] [25] BOZ (talk) 22:57, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hi BOZ, Quite frankly I've had enough of them for one day so I don't plan to revert however if you wanted to send them to AN/I I'd support - They're clearly ignoring consensus (I do agree it is an editorial thing but this goes beyond that - they're just redirecting without looking or quite honestly caring), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- I can't disagree with you, but I don't have any intention of reverting any of these either. I prefer not to waste my time on negativity; life is too short for that, and there is plenty of it out there. BOZ (talk) 23:03, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- I 100% agree with you, Think it's fair to say we both have better things to do with our time, Thanks for the ping anyway, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 23:25, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hi BOZ, Quite frankly I've had enough of them for one day so I don't plan to revert however if you wanted to send them to AN/I I'd support - They're clearly ignoring consensus (I do agree it is an editorial thing but this goes beyond that - they're just redirecting without looking or quite honestly caring), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Just so everyone is on the same page. I am not going against any guideline or policy, so I'm not going to stop. If anyone has a better idea than me wasting my time merging unneeded content, I'm open to it. If someone wants to do it, at least for the D&D articles, I'm not demanding it be done the same day or even within the same month. It just needs to be done with actual consistency rather than leaving it indefinitely. TTN (talk) 23:07, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Source question
Hey BOZ! Sorry to bother you, but do you by any chance still have access to those news archive services (like NewsBank/LexisNexis)? I know it's been many, many years since I last asked, but I thought it might be worth a shot. I'm trying to find a December 10, 1998 article in the Orange County Register called something like "Violence Not Wanted; Can't We Play Nice?". It contains sales figures for the Gabriel Knight series. I've been able to find part of it online, but not enough to fill out a citation template. Thanks! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 16:36, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- I'd love to help if I can, no bother! I know that User:Torchiest and User:Paul Erik had access to sources like that in the past, but not sure if either of them does now. I do have some access at my local library, so I can probably check sometime this week. BOZ (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- I found it. It's Leslie Gornstein (December 10, 1998). "Violence not wanted: Can't we play nice?: The nonbloody adventure games preferred by female players are a dying breed", The Orange County Register, p. C01. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 17:52, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks a ton, guys! Paul, would it be possible for you to email me (Special:EmailUser/JimmyBlackwing) the full article text? I'd like to verify that the version I read online is 100% accurate, if at all possible. Thanks again. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 18:19, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I've sent you an email, JimmyBlackwing. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 18:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Received. Perfect! I really appreciate it. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 18:44, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I've sent you an email, JimmyBlackwing. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 18:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks a ton, guys! Paul, would it be possible for you to email me (Special:EmailUser/JimmyBlackwing) the full article text? I'd like to verify that the version I read online is 100% accurate, if at all possible. Thanks again. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 18:19, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- I found it. It's Leslie Gornstein (December 10, 1998). "Violence not wanted: Can't we play nice?: The nonbloody adventure games preferred by female players are a dying breed", The Orange County Register, p. C01. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 17:52, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
D&D AfDs
Are you able to go through Find Sources templates too? I simply don't have enough time to go through everything at 3-4/day. It only takes maybe 5 minutes per, but that's time I don't consistently have during any particular 7-day period... Jclemens (talk) 05:41, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- I may be able to find some time to do it Jclemens, but I am also often busy, and I may have less than ideal access to sites depending on where I am logging in from. The intended effect of spamming multiple AFDs per day is to get people to "eventually tire out and stop responding", which seems like an effective enough tactic - overwhelm people who don't have as much free time in their day to effectively respond to the nominations as the nominator seems to have in creating the AFDs. BOZ (talk) 05:57, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, I mean that eventually people stop responding no matter what frequency, so I eventually have to stop because AfDs are being relisted three times and then end as no consensus due to not enough people. TTN (talk) 20:07, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- TTN, since these all seem to end up merge anyways, why do you bother taking them to AfD? Redirect the ones you believe to be NN, and AfD things that are un-merged without sufficient sources being added. If you want help figuring out the right merge/redirect targets, I'd much rather help with that than participate in yet another AfD. Jclemens (talk) 00:29, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't mind redirecting. There are three problems: those who undo my redirects automatically because I'm me, those who undo the redirects anonymously three months later (I'm fairly convinced in the case of the D&D articles that it is an established user just logging out), and then someone (@FreeKnowledgeCreator:) who at one point undid a bunch of them and told me it was AfD or bust (or editwarring and bust but I would not win that fight). For the first, I'll just have to play that by ear. I certainly don't mind following a BRD (or BRAFD most likely) set up in the case of the someone making an honest claim of notability or an anon undoing them months later, but the third will have to agree not to wholesale revert unless there is an actual specific reason for it. TTN (talk) 01:17, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- TTN, I respectfully submit there is no good reason to complain about something I did a long time ago and might not have the least inclination to do again. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- That was only 10 or 11 months ago, so I expected little reason for it to change. But if you're fine only challenging redirects that you personally find improper, I'm fine cutting out the bulk of D&D AfDs. I won't go insane and redirect 1000 pages in a week, so I'll limit it to basically the amount of AfDs I would start on a normal day. 01:24, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- At this point, I think we've done enough that a WP:OUTCOMES entry is appropriate. I'd much rather have the history intact so that non-admins can see what might be worth either merging or fleshing out. In fact, I think I'm going to go start a discussion for one now... Jclemens (talk) 04:13, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- I added my 2 cents, for what it's worth. BOZ (talk) 11:20, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- At this point, I think we've done enough that a WP:OUTCOMES entry is appropriate. I'd much rather have the history intact so that non-admins can see what might be worth either merging or fleshing out. In fact, I think I'm going to go start a discussion for one now... Jclemens (talk) 04:13, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- That was only 10 or 11 months ago, so I expected little reason for it to change. But if you're fine only challenging redirects that you personally find improper, I'm fine cutting out the bulk of D&D AfDs. I won't go insane and redirect 1000 pages in a week, so I'll limit it to basically the amount of AfDs I would start on a normal day. 01:24, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- TTN, I respectfully submit there is no good reason to complain about something I did a long time ago and might not have the least inclination to do again. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't mind redirecting. There are three problems: those who undo my redirects automatically because I'm me, those who undo the redirects anonymously three months later (I'm fairly convinced in the case of the D&D articles that it is an established user just logging out), and then someone (@FreeKnowledgeCreator:) who at one point undid a bunch of them and told me it was AfD or bust (or editwarring and bust but I would not win that fight). For the first, I'll just have to play that by ear. I certainly don't mind following a BRD (or BRAFD most likely) set up in the case of the someone making an honest claim of notability or an anon undoing them months later, but the third will have to agree not to wholesale revert unless there is an actual specific reason for it. TTN (talk) 01:17, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- TTN, since these all seem to end up merge anyways, why do you bother taking them to AfD? Redirect the ones you believe to be NN, and AfD things that are un-merged without sufficient sources being added. If you want help figuring out the right merge/redirect targets, I'd much rather help with that than participate in yet another AfD. Jclemens (talk) 00:29, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, I mean that eventually people stop responding no matter what frequency, so I eventually have to stop because AfDs are being relisted three times and then end as no consensus due to not enough people. TTN (talk) 20:07, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Ways to improve Falcon (video game)
Hi, I'm Triptothecottage. BOZ, thanks for creating Falcon (video game)!
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Nice article BOZ. Maybe a few sentences in the lead about the game's release and reception would help summarise it.
The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.
Triptothecottage (talk) 06:00, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Didn't realise I was reviewing from the end of NPP - I'll show myself out. Triptothecottage (talk) 06:02, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Thanks for reviewing Final Challenge, BOZ.
Unfortunately Onel5969 has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:
Hi. Still not enough referencing to show notability, but let's let an uninterested 3rd party decide whether or not it should be passed as review.
To reply, leave a comment on Onel5969's talk page.
Onel5969 TT me 21:40, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Nomination of Happy Birthday, Robot! for deletion
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Nomination of Don't Rest Your Head for deletion
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Greetings
BOZ, just a quick hello. Hope all is well with you. Regards Asgardian (talk) 05:28, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Things are good, hope the same goes for you. :) BOZ (talk) 05:32, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Can you undelete (PRODded years ago) and move that to my userspace for me to work on? Thanks, Jclemens (talk) 00:03, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- No problem. I moved it as-is, but you might want to take a thorough look at the edit-history. BOZ (talk) 04:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Re:Video games based on tabletop games
Hey BOZ! Thanks a ton—your work adding Dragon reviews to articles some years ago was my biggest inspiration for all this. I'll absolutely keep an eye out for sources on those games. I should have no problem adding reception details to most of them. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 20:18, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hey, just wanted to mention that I've seen some fantastic reviews for the 1996 Risk adaptation, if you'd be interested in starting a stub for that. I could certainly provide a reception section. Noticing just now that Risk II lists no reviews, despite being well received, so I'll probably hit that next. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 04:26, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- There was also a Kingmaker (board game) adaptation that was apparently a pretty big deal, but doesn't have an article. Its Mobygames page is here. It was nominated for an award in one of my magazines, and I've seen positive reviews. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Silly me! Not only was there a Kingmaker article, but it looks like I've edited it recently. I'm not sure how I managed that. Thanks for the heads-up! I'll keep an eye out for the Risk stub. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:37, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again, but I had one more idea for a boardgame adaptation stub. While adding awards/reviews to articles, I noticed a boardgame adaptation series called Great Battles picking a wargame of the year nomination. They seem to be pretty obscure, but there's a Mobygames entry and they're on GOG. It seems that they're based on The Great Battles of Alexander boardgame. If you're at all interested in creating a series stub, I could easily fill out the reception with the stuff I've found—reviewers seemed to like them. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 22:40, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, you're definitely not bothering me! I've recently taken a huge interest in computer adaptations of boardgames, so this is right up my alley. Many thanks for setting up that stub/redirect (I didn't even realize that GMT had an article)—I'll get to work on the reception section. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 11:06, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do! Those mid-80s games can be hard to source, but I'm sure I can find a review or two (it's an Avalon Hill game, after all). JimmyBlackwing (talk) 11:58, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
- Will do! And thanks for reorganizing the links—that will make it easier to keep track of the to-do list. I have big plans for the article on Diplomacy computer games (it turns out that they had a complicated history), and a lot of these new articles you added should be easy to find sources for. I'll get to work. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:53, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
This isn't quite boardgame-related, but I've been working on the article for a wargame called Robert E. Lee: Civil War General on the side lately (while still chipping away at the list). It seems to have been really successful and popular, but I haven't found many sources on it. If you have time, I'd really appreciate it if you could do a couple of searches in your news archives for this game! I feel like there's probably some coverage or at least a review in one of those old newspapers. If it helps your search, it was published by Sierra On-Line and developed by a company called Impressions. Thank you! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 22:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- Awesome, thank you! Yeah, Lee is definitely a hot topic right now, although my interest in this game has more to do with its phenomenal sales (for the genre) than its subject matter. Have fun at Gen Con! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 06:36, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hey BOZ, many thanks for the articles! I can't wait to go through them. I'll be sure to ask Paul if he has access to the other ones you mentioned. Really appreciate this! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 03:54, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll take a look! I've been distracted by other topics on Wikipedia lately, so I haven't gotten through the other articles in as much detail as I'd hoped yet. There's still way more to find, I think. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 03:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Hero Wars redirect
Hey Boz,
That is some really good historical material you added to Hero Wars, but it still remains that the game isn't independently notable from its later editions, and for the say majority of its history (and therefore its WP:COMMONNAME) it has been known by its original intended title. So I merged that material into the HeroQuest article's history section: oknazevad (talk) 20:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- OK, that's fine. :) BOZ (talk) 21:55, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Merchant Prince (video game)
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Article about a video game that doesn't assert the importance or significance of the subject. See A7
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Unprotect me, please?
Can you drop User talk:Jclemens/Editnotice from full to semi protection? Thanks, Jclemens (talk) 00:50, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- Sure, no problem. :) BOZ (talk) 12:59, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you! Jclemens (talk) 20:06, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- De nada! BOZ (talk) 02:58, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you! Jclemens (talk) 20:06, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
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- Not sure why any of that was necessary? You might want to check with User:JimmyBlackwing about the notability of this series, and the games within it. BOZ (talk) 19:33, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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- Hi ShakespeareFan00, thanks for notifying me. I did take the picture myself, years ago. I'm not sure what is the appropriate template to use. BOZ (talk) 22:36, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
The article Terra Incognita (role-playing game) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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- Any luck finding more on this RPG? power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:30, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- Not yet. You can redirect to Grey Ghost Press for now if you like, and I won't object. BOZ (talk) 03:49, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Boz. I've been having trouble for a number of years now with User:Rtkat3. I've attempted to explain to him more times than I can count how he cannot add material or trivial character information to articles without citations, and other disruptive edits, and while he usually responds positively, he continues this activity. Just do a search on his talk page for my username to see how many times this year alone I've had to tell him to stop this. Just now as I was editing The Orville article, I see that he did it again, not only adding character info to the article whose relevant significance to the character is, at best, unclear at present (we don't know if it's going to be a recurring joke/something related to a signature trait of the character, or simply a one-off gag), but placing it in between the previous information in a sentence and the citation for that sentence, thereby giving the impression that the cite supports his addition, when it does not. I was going to leave another message on his talk page about this, but then figured that doing so is having no effect. He just doesn't care. We need an administrator to step in and either block him or give him a final warning, and monitor his editing. Can you please help? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 16:09, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- In my defense about The Orville, I was doing some rearranging for parts of the plot and bios. As for my edit on Yaphit, him asking Dr. Claire Finn out on a date in episode 3 is something that was mentioned to have done in each of his visits to the sick bay. If I was to maintain that information, where would I get the Verifiability and citing sources of this and other facts about the characters? --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- You don't have to maintain that information, which was one the central points I made above. It's trivia. If, in the future, this develops into a recurring, or running gag, then you could argue that's reasonable to include it in the character bio, and in that case, if you can't find a valid secondary source to support, then you use the primary sources that I've 'been using up til now, which you can see if you look at my edits to that section. But if it doesn't develop into some type of recurring signature trait of the character, then it doesn't merit mention, since it's just a one-off gag. I believe I explicitly stated this in my edit summaries, and above.
- And what's with the five public "thanks" on my edit today? Is this supposed to be some misguided attempt to use flattery to resolve this problem of yours? Nightscream (talk) 18:10, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Where do I argue for the reasonable parts? The talk pages? As for the other thing, I'm just thanking you for your edits to those pages. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- And what's with the five public "thanks" on my edit today? Is this supposed to be some misguided attempt to use flattery to resolve this problem of yours? Nightscream (talk) 18:10, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
From what I have seen of Rtkat3 in the past, I have seen numerous attempts to reach out to him from other users like User:*Treker, User:Cyphoidbomb, User:Tenebrae, User:Jhenderson777, User:Doniago, among others, after reviewing his talk page from this year and 2016 alone. For what it is worth, I think he means well, but I think he has a problem with just not understanding how certain policies work (or as you are suggesting, not caring enough to bother learning how they work). I do not believe he is acting in bad faith, however at some point we have to consider that not understanding or not caring on a regular basis becomes a problem that needs to be addressed. I have observed that he is definitely passionate about adding "In other media" content to comics character articles, for example, but this does not excuse the sourcing and other issues that you bring up. BOZ (talk) 18:39, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- What do you want me to do to improve my work here, BOZ? --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:48, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS that I and others have been giving you on your talk page, and stop pretending you don't understand this. I left a detailed LIST OF THEM on your tp on May 20, and there are others by other editors going back years.
- And don't give me that shit bullshit about “just thanking” me for those edits. You were doing no such thing. You gave five rapid-fire public thanks for my last five edits to four different articles (something I’ve never received before), including ones you have never edited, like J. Lee and Star Trek Discovery right after I went to an administrator about the problem you’ve been to the rest of the editing community. It is embarrassing obvious that this was a shallow attempt to employ flattery in the hope that it would somehow help you evade the consequences of your trouble-making edits. Whether you are too clueless to realize this, or simply think we are, does not change this. Nightscream (talk) 16:38, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)While I haven't felt compelled to leave Rtkat a note regarding their edits for quite some time now, I have found their editing patterns concerning, and it's especially troubling that they could be here for over a decade and continue to make the kinds of problematic edits noted above.
- Ideally they will take this conversation seriously and try to be more judicious in their editing in the future. A suggestion might be that they focus for a time on only adding real-world information to articles, with appropriate sources. There's plenty of editors willing to add in-universe information to articles, appropriately or otherwise. DonIago (talk) 18:50, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, I just wanted to drop in (since I was mentioned) and point out that while I have talked with Rtkat3 in the past and I recognize this as a pattern of them I can't actually remember ever having a conversaion with them about it specifically.★Trekker (talk) 20:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- I also would wish to chime in. As BOZ says, I believe Rtkat3 means well, as he generally responds positively and tries to correct his editing when I point things out to him. That said, I've been pointing the same things out to him for years, and my impression is that he will adhere to guidelines, MOS, etc. when someone calls him on it, and then simply returns to his trivia and fictography, figuring it's all fine unless he gets caught. That's a serious behavioral issues, and I'm glad it's being addressed. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- I would agree with you, Tenebrae. Though I haven't had to deal with Rtkat3 for a while because I've withdrawn from a number of articles he happened to be interested in, I feel like his abilities are limited by an unspecified roadblock be it language-based, or something else. He has traditionally had difficulty understanding community standards and differentiating between encyclopedic content and fancruft. (At least, that was largely my issue with him.) There were also weird issues like being told over and over not to wikilink to common words like dog, cat, ghost and skeleton. (While it may seem trivial, he was already an established editor of 10 years by this point and probably had about 86,000 edits under his belt.) It was always frustrating to try to explain these issues to him, only to be met with vague responses and a general feeling that he didn't really get what I was trying to explain. And yeah, I remember it being particularly vexatious that you'd tell him "Yo, this is wrong because of ___", he'd yield, and then a few days/weeks/months later sneak back in the thing you raised as problematic. Do these problems still exist? Are there other simple follow-the-rules problems that he's still having trouble with? I don't know the best way to deal with him or how to best describe my concerns without being insulting, but I think that maybe admins more specialized to cognitive or behavioral differences might be helpful here, if we know of anyone. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:09, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
- I also would wish to chime in. As BOZ says, I believe Rtkat3 means well, as he generally responds positively and tries to correct his editing when I point things out to him. That said, I've been pointing the same things out to him for years, and my impression is that he will adhere to guidelines, MOS, etc. when someone calls him on it, and then simply returns to his trivia and fictography, figuring it's all fine unless he gets caught. That's a serious behavioral issues, and I'm glad it's being addressed. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
So then User:Nightscream, we have some good input from other users on this situation, but the question is what to do?
I could block him for a short period of time, but to me that would seem to be pointless, as has been noted by the folks above, he tends to behave a little better for a little while, but then goes back to the same thing as before.
I could block him indefinitely, which may be a bit extreme, and he may have a good case for appealing to an unblock (which could very well backfire on me) if he can assert that he is acting in good faith.
We could take this to a wider community discussion of his behavior to see if the community wants to block him for a period of time. I have done this before, and when you have the support it usually gets the job done, although it takes more time to prepare than I really have.
We could let things go on as they have for years, with other users keeping an eye on him to police him, but this is really not workable and expects too much from other people to do the work for him that he should be doing himself. I'm certainly not going to devote my time to watching him closely, and I would not expect anyone else to do this either.
So maybe there is a solution somewhere between there that I am not thinking of? Do you think it would be reasonable to give him a final warning as you suggested originally, and if he fails to comply with this consistently within a reasonable amount of time, we would take him to a community block discussion? BOZ (talk) 16:14, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
- Create a list of his most commonly recurring violations, based on complaints by others. The list I provided on his talk page on May 20 would be a good place to start. Make it clear to him that this list may change dynamically if he begins committing new types of violations.
- Block him for a month, and tell him that after a month, it will only be removed if he agrees to each of the specifically listed instructions, which he must name explicitly.
- You, me and other members of the community can monitor his behavior. If he continues in his violations, he can be blocked for longer periods. If the lengths of the blocks require community consensus, then we can hold the necessary discussions indicated by blocking policies/guidelines. Nightscream (talk) 16:38, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
- OK, it will take me some time to review that and set it up, so ping me if you don't hear back from me soon. I'll accept other input on the issue in the meantime. BOZ (talk) 18:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Working on this today... may or may not finish today. BOZ (talk) 18:47, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- OK, I have reached out to him now. BOZ (talk) 22:07, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, you keep introducing Cite date errors with your edits it would be good if you could do this correct in future to stop having to mop up the errors. The problem is with the cite |date=
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- Thank you kindly! In everything I do, I am trying to make this a better place. :) BOZ (talk) 19:21, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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I feel I should note that the version of Jennell Jaquays you have protected still lists the subject's birth name, despite the lack of any source, however insubstantial, indicating the subject's birth name. The BLP banner reads specifically, Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. While libel is not at issue here, privacy and accuracy certainly are. Pawsplay (talk) 03:41, 7 December 2017 (UTC)