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Merger discussion for Metrobus (Sydney)

An article that you have been involved in editing—Metrobus (Sydney)—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Mqst north (talk) 12:10, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extension:Maps assistance

Hi. I noticed your work on maps for the Sydney and Adelaide light rail routes (brilliant work by the way), and I was wondering if you could give me some guidance on how to start using this map extension. Namely, where to download it (the links I've followed are not really helping) and some pointers on how to start using the extension. Regards. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 12:23, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nick Mitchell 98: Thanks for the complement! Documentation of the maps feature is available at mw:Help:Extension:Kartographer and mw:Help:Map Data.

Following the suggestion in the documentation, I have used http://geojson.io to create the maps I've stored on Commons. These can be transferred to Commons by copy/pasting the code into a new .map data page. Just replace the following code in the data page:

{

        ... GeoJSON ...

    }

with the code you've copied from http://geojson.io and fill in the "description" and "sources" fields. The comments in the page will generate an error message when you try to save - just ignore it; the comments will go away once the page is saved for the first time.

Unfortunately, the WMF has lost interest in furthering development of the maps feature. This means the <mapframe> function - used to display a map directly within a page - is not available at English Wikipedia. There are some annoyances with Commons maps - the preview function only works one per edit, for instance. But overall maps are quite easy, if fiddly, to edit once you get the hang of it.

Give it a go, and feel free to ask me any specific questions you may have about how to create and use maps. Gareth (talk) 14:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Trams in Melbourne

Re: Wikipedia "Trams in Melbourne"; Which dates, and which figures ? Gunzle (talk) 01:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I wasn't referring to your edit in my summary. I fixed the date for the patronage figure because this edit bumped the figures but not the date above. Gareth (talk) 09:53, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Glenelg Tram

I'm uncertain if moving Glenelg Tram statistics from the Glenelg Tram page to the Trams in Adelaide‎ page is such a good idea.
Yes, I read your edit comment, but I'm afraid I don't follow your logic. Do you mind expanding on your reasoning a little? With thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:51, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Pdfpdf: Some content has already been move from Glenelg tram to Trams in Adelaide (not by me) and the link at Template:TramsAustralia has been switched, so I assume Trams in Adelaide has become or is becoming the main article. The Adelaide tram network is expanding next year with the extension to the East End. We don't yet know what the network will look like one this opens, but we do know it will consist of least two lines. The source for the patronage figure is the DPTI annual report. This provides patronage figures by mode, and I have not seen any source that breaks down the figures by line. This means that once the extension opens it will likely be impossible to report a figure for just the Glenelg line. So I moved the section based on a combination of these reasons. Gareth (talk) 07:24, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for filling in the gaps for me. Hmmmm. It would seem that it is now all pretty much a fait accompli. (It's amazing how quickly politicians can move when there's an election looming...) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:56, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Sadly, article "it will consist of at least two lines" is behind a paywall. Is that the article saying that the tram will serve The Parade at Norwood? Pdfpdf (talk) 07:56, 2 December 2017 (UTC))[reply]

It's saying that trams will not be able to operate from Glenelg to the East End. P.S. you can usually view those paywalled articles by copying the link to the article, pasting it into the Google search field and clicking through. Gareth (talk) 08:22, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I wish I'd known that five years ago! Thanks again, Pdfpdf (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Patronage graph

It's a very misleading graph. I think it should be broken into two graphs, one up to 2013-14 and one for 2014-15 onwards. Adpete (talk) 04:08, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)

I wouldn't say the graph is "misleading" (much less "very misleading"), but I can see advantages in splitting it at 30 June 2014. A couple of other comments on the data include:

The data is millions of boardings, not journeys.
I dislike graphs with unlabelled axes (but that may be non-trivial to address).
Glenelg tram#Controversy states that 100,000 extra trips in the 3 months to Nov 2007 "dramatically exceeded its capacity". Looking at the patronage in adjacent years, I don't see why.

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:26, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've modified the graph so that it's split into multiple series. I've also added labels to the axes. I think patronage increased substantially after the opening of the city centre extension, but it remained hidden because the new trips took place within the free travel zone. The change to include free travel in the statistics provided a much more accurate depiction of the line's usage. Gareth (talk) 08:24, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've modified the graph ... - Yes - quite an improvement. I think patronage increased ... - Well analysed! Yes, I expect you're correct. Given that people don't "swipe" when they make a free trip in the city, I wonder how the number of boardings is measured? Pdfpdf (talk) 08:37, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how the boardings are measured in the free zone. I do know that passenger count sensor systems are available, so my best guess is that one of those systems is installed. Gareth (talk) 07:56, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Sydney trains templates

You might want to comment on this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_December_14#Opal_fares Moa999 (talk) 02:56, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]