Talk:Ryzen
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Ryzen is a "brand name" by AMD for microprocessors
Exactly like "Opteron", "Core i3", "Core i5" or "Core i7". I suggest this article should reflect the articles:
and be renamed to List of AMD Ryzen microprocessors
Socket AM4 or Zen (microarchitecture) have their own distinct articles. User:ScotXWt@lk 11:14, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Apparently this deserves continued discussion. There have been a number of edits/reverts by KamranMackey titling the Ryzen as a "line" rather than a brand. While line is not defined, AMD has clearly stated that Ryzen is the "brand" for this series of CPUs and APUs.[1] This is supported by reputable secondary sources.[2][3] Further examples are the Athlon and Xeon articles. (An exception, the lead of the AMD Phenom where line is used, is contradicted in the cited source.) Any change in this naming would require a source (and an exceptional one at that to over-rule the manufacturer), otherwise it is original research. Dbsseven (talk) 16:56, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-takes-computing-2016dec13.aspx
- ^ https://venturebeat.com/2016/12/13/amd-introduces-ryzen-brand-for-zen-based-desktop-processors/
- ^ http://www.anandtech.com/show/10907/amd-gives-more-zen-details-ryzen-34-ghz-nvme-neural-net-prediction-25-mhz-boost-steps
http://ark.intel.com/ equivalent?
Is there such a database by AMD? User:ScotXWt@lk 11:52, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Impact
I think this article should be a List and nothing else, but until it is, how about documenting the impact of Ryzen-branded microprocessors:
Intel's x86-64 competition:
- List of Intel Celeron microprocessors maximum 2 cores
- List of Intel Pentium microprocessors maximum 2 cores
- List of Intel Core i3 microprocessors maximum 4 cores
- List of Intel Core i5 microprocessors maximum 4 cores
- List of Intel Core i7 microprocessors have usually 4 cores, with very few 6, 8 and 10 cores
- 2017-Feb-23 computerbase.de compared some Intel 4, 6, 8 and 10 core CPUs: https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02/cpu-skalierung-kerne-spiele-test/
- the L2 cache is double the size of Intel's products, this should profit 64bit code the most, but some tests would be nice User:ScotXWt@lk 12:57, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- I would compare this article to Kaby Lake. Do we even have confirmation that Zen is still the official architecture name, or is the architecture now Ryzen?Carewolf (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- I guess at some point this article could be made an overview Ryzen branded CPUs, and the current content moved to a Summit Ridge article as it is specific to that implementation of Zen. I am just not certain AMD is certain how they are going to brand this in the long run.Carewolf (talk) 15:22, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
pronounce
Any hint how to pronounce? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.59.222.27 (talk) 00:36, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- The podcasts PC Perspective and This week in computer hardware say Ry-Zen. Dbsseven (talk) 18:53, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
- I don't think the current IPA pronunciation hits the nail on the head. "Ryzen" as in "(Ho)rizon" would be spelt /'raɪzɘn/, which is how AMD pronounces this. /'raɪzɛn:/ would make it two individually pronounced syllables as in Rye-Zen, but again, AMD says it differently.--Aera (talk) 23:10, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Product lineup table
Simple enough edit to make, but the "threadripper" row in the table doesn't have enough columns, as such the "memory support" column reads "Summer 2017", and the Release price has no entry at all.
As a wikipedia newbie, I thought this would be a simple enough edit to make, to get me started on my way Find a load of "unknown"s and copy and paste one more, plus its delimiter. Simple! Instead all I see it say is: AMD Ryzen inside a pair of double braces (I'm not going to type that literally just in case it has some special meaning in the talk page that I don't know about. Now I thought that meant hyperlink, so when I went to that page. It just redirects me back to this article.
It's a minor low-priority cosmetic edit at this point, I'm sure it will be fixed when all the details are known, but until then, it'd make the page look a bit better if it was fixed. While I get to feel a little silly for not knowing how to edit something that seems like it should be really simple. 88.98.86.251 (talk) 20:46, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- I already fixed it. You can find the table by going to the Template:AMD Ryzen page. It's a template, so the table can be re-used on multiple pages. Thanks for contributing! Dbsseven (talk) 20:58, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ah! "Template", that's the bit I didn't understand, I thought it was just a link to a standard page, and why I got confused when it just redirected right back where I came from. Like I said, it seemed like it should've been something really simple, and I bet now that I know I'm looking for the word template, I'll find it straight away in the help page about tables... 88.98.86.251 (talk) 16:51, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
add phonetic spelling for Ryzen
many non amarican people are pronouncing it wrong. Please at ITA for it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.17.202.236 (talk)
- Wikipedia is a wiki, you can edit it yourself. But anyway I've added a pronounciation. I don't think many people understand ITA, I think "rye-zen" is clearer. -- intgr [talk] 21:54, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Intel ADX
http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/AMD-Zen_Instruction-Set-ISA-740x416.png
We should add this to the list of extensions that Ryzen supports. --135.0.52.247 (talk) 01:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
product Line up targeted Market change suggestions
I am pretty new to wiki. When i first looked at this article a few months ago, Ryzen 7 was an "High-End" Processor, but now it is classified as an "Performance" Processor. I find this kinda confusing and wrong, because Ryzen 7 is still an High-End CPU, while Threadripper is an Enthusiast-class CPU on an Enthusiast-Plattform. This should be changed on the graph in this article. It only adds confusion in my opinion. I would like to edit the table, but i dont know how to edit it. Additionally i want to hear the opinion of u guys, before i make any changes.
Here are my suggestions:
- AMD Ryzen Threadripper: Enthusiast
- AMD Ryzen 7 : High-End
- AMD Ryzen 5 : Performance (Ryzen 5 1600X, Ryzen 5 1600), Mainstream (Ryzen 5 1500X, Ryzen 5 1400)
- AMD Ryzen 3 : Entry Level
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AMD-User (talk • contribs)
- Interesting ideas. However, the categories listed are based on current citations per Wikipedia policy. If you have a citation for your proposed edits, feel free to post them here to try and find a new consensus. Dbsseven (talk) 17:19, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Switch to binary units?
Should we maybe switch to binary units where applicable? After all, "AMD defines 1 kilobyte (KB) as 1024 bytes, and 1 megabyte (MB) as 1024 kilobytes", while by definition 1KB is 1000B, but 1KiB do match AMD's 1024B. Ceremony64 (talk) 08:12, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Ceremony64: I think Wikipedia manual of style indicates "MB" and "KB" here. See WP:COMPUNITS "
The IEC prefixes kibi- (symbol Ki), mebi- (Mi), gibi- (Gi), etc., are generally not to be used except: [...]
" -- intgr [talk] 08:23, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Product lineup table outdated
Someone needs to update the info in Product lineup table, which seems to contain outdated info. For example Ryzen 1700X, clock rate and memory speed listed doesn't match the specs in official page https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-pro-1700x Hei Liebrecht 19:05, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Good catch. Updated. Checking on the pro products, it looks like only the Pro 1700X speeds were wrong. Dbsseven (talk) 19:36, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Regarding XFR it seems officially AMD just says whether it's available, but not how much speed it gives. Since Pro seems like a re-label of the orignal Ryzen CPUs, would it be safe to assume that the XFR speed of Pro and original models match?--Pizzahut2 (talk) 20:27, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- I'd rather not assume, personally. I presume there is/will be some source to publish this. Dbsseven (talk) 00:23, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
infobox core name
I realize this is a bit detailed but the "Core names" of the infobox is not correct. However, the listed Summit Ridge, Whitehaven, and Raven Ridge are product code names not core names. The core name is "Zen". The infobox template also includes "Product code" and "Model", might not one of these be more precise? Dbsseven (talk) 00:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Ryzen brand logo vs actual picture of an AM4 Ryzen 1800X for article's primary image?
Pretty much what it says in the subject line; I just saw that someone recently swapped out the articles primary image from being a rendering of the AMD Ryzen logo to an actual picture of a Ryzen chip; specifically the 1800X. Now I'm of the belief that the former picture suited the article much better than the new/current one for a number of reasons. First off, not every Ryzen chip uses the AM4 socket so showing a picture of an AM4 chip as the primary could be very misleading. Secondly this article is about the entire Ryzen brand of chips, not a single product or set of chips whithin that brand, thus I feel like returning to the brand logo would be the best header picture possible. Just wondering people's thoughts on the matter before I just go and do it though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:30A6:9D00:98E1:1D3A:F3CE:3EF6 (talk) 07:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
FPUs
Is it correct that 6 cores do have integrated FPUs each, not sharing them? 80.109.210.78 (talk) 13:21, 3 January 2018 (UTC)