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Now we are back to a formal system: A formal language can be specified in a great variety of ways, such as:

If we extend the alphabet of these productions, which is what the visual symbols would effectively be, and what would the result be for an operation on combinations of the visual symbols. - need a parser for the symbols. The term "foundations of mathematics" is sometimes used for certain fields of mathematics itself, namely for mathematical logic, axiomatic set theory, proof theory, model theory, and recursion theory. The search for foundations of mathematics is however also the central question of the philosophy of mathematics: on what ultimate basis can mathematical statements be called "true"?

The current dominant mathematical paradigm is based on axiomatic set theory and formal logic. Virtually all mathematical theorems today can be formulated as theorems of set theory. using the operations of formal logic.

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Isaac Newton

Ancheta wrote to Subramanian: I knew that Isaac Newton studied alchemy. How about providing a reference for his being an astrologer in the talk page? Thank you, Ancheta Wis 11:49, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Good point Ancheta, you made me wonder wether I was mistaken.

The claim of Newton's intimacy with astrology came from a story that allegedly happened bewteen him and Halley. It can be found here, here, here and in some 700 other google-found pages here. All versions follow these lines:

An often repeated tale is that the astronomer Halley kidded Newton about his interest in astrology. Newton, it is said, defended himself by asserting, "I have studied the subject, Mr. Halley, and you have not."

Analisys of the historical reliability of this story:

1. Cons: By far, most sites citing it are astology-related. It can be a lie repeated many times as to forge a truth on behalf of defenders of astrology.

2. Pros: Wikipedia cites of Alchemy: Alchemy in the Western world and other locations where it was widely practiced was (and in many cases still is) closely allied and intertwined with traditional Babylonian-Greek style astrology; in numerous ways they are built to complement each other. Also, a counter-argument to the ponit above is that astrology is widely regarded by scientits and luminaries of reason as a belief of the ignorant. Unlike Alchemy, which all accept as dead and nonsense, Astrology still has its defenders and there is still a discussion over it. It would then be unlikely that an story that favors one side of a still-going discussion would be commonly found among the defenders of the other side.

3. Conclusion: I think that I am too new a contributor to decide here; my contribuition was really well-meant but I am not certain it fits. On one hand, citing Newton as an astrologer could be stretching his studies of alchemy and believing this tale abot him; on the other hand, _not_ citing him as an astrologer could be perpetuating a non-neutral POV, that of science, the winning side of a debate on the validity of this pseudo-science.

So, Ancheta, I really thank you for bringing my attention to this and I ask you, please, to do as a senior contributor whatever is better for Wikipedia. Thanks, --Subramanian 06:02, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Update: This page, although biased, has a good enough case against Newton as astrologer. I apologize. --Subramanian 08:43, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Union artillery in action at Cane Hill

The battle of Cane Hill was fought during the American Civil War on November 28, 1862, near the town of Cane Hill, Arkansas. Union troops under James G. Blunt had pursued Confederate troops commanded by Thomas C. Hindman into northwestern Arkansas, and Hindman saw an opportunity to attack Blunt while the latter was isolated. Confederate cavalry under John S. Marmaduke moved to Cane Hill to collect supplies. Blunt moved to attack Marmaduke on November 27. The Union advance made contact with Confederate troopers the next morning. The Confederates fell back to an elevation known as Reed's Mountain. Blunt continued to pursue after the Confederates abandoned Reed's Mountain, but his leading elements ran into an ambush. The Confederates then presented a flag of truce as a ruse to buy time. Hindman's army and Blunt's reinforced command fought the Battle of Prairie Grove on December 7, which retained Union control of Missouri and northwestern Arkansas. (Full article...)

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Thanks for all your work on categories. We don't have anything like a consensus about what is fundamental, or where we should be going with highest-level categories or levels of granularity in each category... but I hope we will soon. Is there a main Categories Wikiproject?

In any case, we shouldn't let our debates about categorization spill out onto the Main Page. I am confused about why the people who have been active in editing the category-list haven't chimed in with their thoughts on the new main-page template. +sj+ 22:33, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hello, AW. You said:

  • Thank you for responding to my appeal on the Fundamental category. What if we transfer the thread of conversation to Category talk:Fundamental. I will alert the folks on the Main Page that we will pick up the conversation there. Ancheta Wis 01:42, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Good idea - copy or move my contribution and put yours in too (telling BodNotBod!) Maybe new heading such as "Refining number and wording of the "fundamental" categories"? Robin Patterson 03:21, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Hi Ancheta, thanks for the response to my question. Digging on Amazon, the only book I can find that you refer to is "The Oxford Illustrated History of the Bible" [1] Is that the one? Spellbinder 18:19, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, Ancheta. Sorry, it's taken a while to respond, but I've been away. That 'Cambridge History of the Bible' looks fascinating; I'll have to try to get hold of a copy. Spellbinder 21:15, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)


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How to help yourself survive a heart attack when alone

I got this from my mother-in-law, who spent months last year in a cardiology ICU, and who is now at home again. She emailed me with this last March, but it's on paper now and wikipedia is a superior place to have this information if I need it. Ancheta Wis 00:58, 31 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this mail sends it to 10 people, you can bet that we'll save at least one life. Read this... It could save your life!!

Let's say it's 6:15PM and you're driving home (alone of course), after an unusually hard day on the job. You're really tired, upset and frustrated. Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw. You are only about 5 miles from the hospital nearest your home. Unfortunately you don't know if you'll be able to make it that far. You have been trained in CPR, but the guy that taught the course did not tell you how to perform it on yourself.

How to survive a heart attack when alone

Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, without help, the person whose heart is beating improperly and who begins to feel faint, has only about 10 seconds left before losing consciousness. However these victims can help themselves by

coughing repeatedly and very vigorously.
  • A deep breath should be taken before each cough, and the cough must be deep and prolonged, as when producing sputum from deep within the chest.
  • A breath and a cough must be repeated about every two seconds without let-up until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be beating normally again.

Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing movements squeeze the heart and keep the blood circulating. The squeezing pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In this way, heart attack victims can get to a hospital.

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Scientific enterprise

I've listed Scientific enterprise for cleanup for three reasons: 1. the formatting is very inconsistent with typical Wikipedia standards (and makes it difficult to read), 2. it contains a lot of re-definitioning which can be accomplished better by wiki links (why repeat an explanation of the scientific method? Brevity is a good thing!), and 3. I think it is somewhat incoherent what the point of it is, because the connection between the sentences and paragraphs is often fairly cryptic. Which is not at all to imply that I don't think an article on the scientific enterprise -- science as an enterprise -- is a bad idea, or that the contents are poor -- I just think it needs some work, and I think it needs to be edited down quite a bit, to be made more concise. Just letting you know! --Fastfission 02:07, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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The (Un)Enlightenment

Hi Ancheta,

Don't worry too much about Category:The Enlightenment being on WP:CFD. User:Postdlf has been doing a lot of work trying to clean up isolated and annomolous categories, and he may have been just a little too quick off the mark on this one.

I know a little philosophy, but probably not enough to make an informed decission. You mention 'some eastern philosophies view enlightenment as a fundamental topic'. Are you suggesting that ideas from the western Age of Enlightenment spread to the east (or vice versa), so that there are topics in both eastern and western philosophy which have the same roots and come together under Category:The Enlightenment?

If by 'enlightenment' in eastern philosophies you mean the enlightenment or bodhi of Buddhist, then I doubt there is any association. Buddism started around the 6th century BC, there was very little communication with the west. The only connection with the west's Age of Enlightenment of the 18th century would be a coincidence in the name.

There is an article on Enlightenment (concept) that suggests they are connected. But I don't buy it, except in a fairly loose sense on 'convergent evolution'. There is a similarity in the 'eureka' moment which perhaps give a degree of connection, but its not a philosophical movement. -- Solipsist 10:07, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Eye of Providence

I like the start of the Eye of Providence article. I'm surprised it doesn't have any reference to Freemasons though. In particluar the symbol's precense on the $1 dollar bill is often thought to be due to freemasonary, although this article makes quite a good case that it is just a coicidence (again co-convergece in similar ideas). Of course that could add up to making a rather interesting article. -- Solipsist 10:14, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

... actually novus ordo seclorum is on the Great Seal (as shown at the top of page), which is where the one dollar bill gets it from. -- Solipsist 23:06, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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OK, so colour me curious: I have a feeling that your user-name (Ancheta Wis)is an anagram, but I can't work out for what! Am I wrong, or what? Also, why did you reckon I'd be interested in the Stata center thing? Are you someone I knew IRL at MIT? Noel 14:24, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Yes, Ancheta Wis, I can look into those 'Selected Anniversaries'. And, thanks for the tip. :-) -- PFHLai 04:58, 2004 Aug 30 (UTC)

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Someone removed a change you made back on Jun 13, 2004 whose edit comment was "The skilled drivers of Los Angeles", and whose main content was:

Traffic laws are governed by a California principle called flow of traffic; speed laws are meant to ensure efficient flow, and drivers at the speed limit can get a ticket for driving too slowly, if the rest of the freeway is driving faster, at that moment. On a good day with free-flowing traffic, the skilled drivers of Los Angeles tend to travel in checkerboards, all at the same speed, to minimize the dangers of driving 1-car-length apart at speeds over 60 miles per hour; they accomplish this by monitoring the brake lights of the cars in front of them, as viewed through the windshields of the cars in front of them. If a driver leaves a larger gap, another car will simply fill in the gap, so drivers learn to leave no room for another car in front of them. When a brake light lights up, the drivers following will respond with the impressive phenomenon of an entire section of freeway slowing down at the same time. The news channels will then respond with reports on that freeway.

This appears to be nonsense to me, as a resident of Southern California. Where did you get this from? —Morven 07:44, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

I think maybe the rise in popularity of the SUV, minivan and truck has killed this off, along with the tendency for ever-more-tinted glass. Now, the odds are if you are driving in a car, the vehicle in front of you is one you can't see through. —Morven 16:32, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

Fort Worth

A.W.: Rather than doing anything fancy, I decided it would be best to reduce Fort Worth to a redirect, and merge/give indication of the merger on Fort Worth, Texas (should anyone be interested in the former page's history). If this isn't quite what you wanted, please let me know. CJCurrie 21:33, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)

er ... Fort Bliss, that should be

Obviously, the Fort Worth pages were left unchanged. (I apologize; I was using Wikipedia while concurrently hosting a radio program earlier today, and my attentions were somewhat compromised.)

More generally, I have to confess t I'm still fairly new to this sysop business, and it's entirely possible that I've misread the situation. If so, I'd request that you clarify what you were asking of me. (I'm not really the fumbling space cadet that my previous contribution to your page made me out to be, though I must confess that I had some difficulty in understanding the nature of your request.) CJCurrie 02:08, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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Critical theory

That gets a lot of it, but it doesn't really get the psychoanalytic theorists like Lacan. Snowspinner 14:40, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)


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It was a pleasure to meet you today. I think your summary covered the main points of the talk pretty well. -Pete P. Riis 00:46, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

History of Telegraphy

Hi, Ancheta Wis. I just reverted your date change in the Ground (electricity) article, and I thought you might like an explanation. My information was based on an article called The Electromagnetic Telegraph, which gives a detailed history of telegraphy from long before the 19th century. 1820 appears to be the date of the first electromagnetic telegraph, built by Baron Schilling. Like you, I was surprised by this early date. It appears that electromagnetism was put to practical use within a year of Oersted's discovery, and long before anybody had a mathematical model of how it worked. --Regards, Heron 13:49, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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Hi there! I knew what the link was for, but the title of an article shouldn't be linked (per the Wikipedia:Manual of Style). --David Iberri | Talk 22:58, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)

Just two short paragraphs later, the MoS says (in bold):
Do not link words in article titles; find other ways to include and then link those words.
And Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Headings says to "avoid links in headings". Looks like you stopped reading a bit too soon ;-) Best, David Iberri | Talk 00:46, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

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Hello. We haven't met before, but I think I should inform you of a recent development on the "Vandalism in progress" page which may have affected your contributions.

About an hour ago, I attempted to report an act of vandalism in the "Current Alerts" section. Unfortunately, as I was doing this I accidentally deleted an important section of the "Vandalism in progress" main page -- possibly accounting for some of the confusion which other users have reported in the last hour.

I've fixed the situation now. Please note that the difficulty arose out of a misinterpretation on my part, and was not a deliberate act of vandalism. I apologize for any inconvenience that my actions may have caused. (Please also note that it took me almost an hour to identify and solve the problem.)

You may wish to review your recent contributions to the "Vandalism in progress" page, to ensure that everything you intended to write ended up in its proper place. CJCurrie 02:15, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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What's so special about Voyager 2 and August 24? The article on the probe only reports the distance at that date, there's nothing special about it... 193.216.55.231 19:31, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Fascinating collection of articles you have on your user page. I always enjoy how one edit can lead you down so many fascinating roads. PMcM 03:22, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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