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User:Garam reported by User:Zanhe (Result: Withdrawn - issue resolved)
- Page
- Paektu Mountain (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Garam (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 18:00, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "see Paektu Mountain#Names"
- 04:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "clear"
- 03:38, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "Undid revision 825565660 by Zanhe (talk): when? look like your edits is first. and please visit the talk page, not here."
- 03:31, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "rv; no consensus the title."
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 03:49, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "/* Names in the lead */ new section"
- 04:23, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "/* Names in the lead */ re"
Note: I did not use the template to warn him because Garam is a long-term editor familiar with edit warring rules. He's been to ANI and this noticeboard before.
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- 03:49, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "/* Names in the lead */ new section"
- 04:10, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "/* Names in the lead */ re"
- 04:23, 14 February 2018 (UTC) "/* Names in the lead */ re"
- Comments:
Paektu Mountain is on the border of China and North Korea, and per WP:NEUTRALITY, such border features normally have native names of both countries in the lead (e.g. Mont Blanc). Yesterday I noticed that the Chinese name was missing so I added it to the lead. (Later I found out that it was silently removed 13 months ago by an IP). However, User:Garam reverted my edits three times, making the nonsensical claim that the IP removal represents "consensus" merely because it wasn't noticed at the time [1]. He refused to acknowledge Ngram evidence that shows the Chinese name is more commonly used than the Korean, using the ridiculous excuse that Ngram is too old because its most recent data is from 2008 (see Talk:Paektu Mountain#Names in the lead). When another user Koraskadi also added the Manchu name, Garam made his fourth revert within 24 hours, replacing both the Chinese and Manchu names with a second Korean spelling. His reverts are blatant violations of both 3RR and WP:NPOV. Zanhe (talk) 20:09, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- I’ll begin by talking about this. First, I want to revert to "previous edit from conflict" (I'm sorry, I don't know its correct name in English Wikipedia) becuase it is it will prevent more conflicts in article history. And before user Zanhe's edit, and to be exact, the title of article Paektu Mountain was "Paektu" and "Baekdu" since 223.53.16.20's edit in 2016. So, I think we made a sort of tacit consensus during this time. And I think this is what consensus say in Wikipedia:Consensus. Of course consensus can change, but it hasn’t changed yet in my opinion. So, I wanted to discuss this problem, and I tried to talk to user Zanhe in Talk:Paektu Mountain#Names in the lead (if you look at the talk page, user Zanhe hasn't responded yet.). And as mentioned in talk page, I want user Zanhe to present the references at the present (same reason as Talk:Sea of Japan/FAQ, and per previous discussions in talk page (e.g. Talk:Paektu Mountain#Names). But user Zanhe presented the Ngrams between from 1950 to 2008. So I think user Zanhe didn't provide enough references to support its opinion. Finally, only I thank Manchu language is virtually dead language, it was not one of title until now, and other names is found in Paektu Mountain#Names, for the same reason as first part of Sea of Japan. So if my this edit seems to you like it violates 3RR, really I am sorry I didn't mean that, and I didn't know this edit also violated 3RR. I really wish we could accommodate this problem. And thank you for reading this comments, although I'm not fluent in English. Thanks. --Garam (talk) 07:26, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- I revert to my edit like Special:PermanentLink/756396030 in 2016. See special:diff/825765920. Thanks. --Garam (talk) 08:12, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- As Garam has voluntarily reverted himself, I consider this issue resolved and would like to withdraw my complaint. -Zanhe (talk) 20:37, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Garam is a notorious disputer. [2] [3] [4] It will repeat again soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.62.216.170 (talk) 17:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the links. I wasn't aware of Garam's extensive block history outside English wiki. He did change his behaviour this time so I don't want to be vindictive. If he resumes edit warring and/or POV pushing again I'll bring him directly to WP:ANI, but I hope that won't be necessary. -Zanhe (talk) 21:01, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Zanhe: This IP (with special:diff/826113481 and special:diff/826107181 etc) is one of notorious puppet in Korean Wikipedia. And this IP is blocked IP in Korean Wikipedia because of vandalism and swear words. Please don't mind it. Thanks. --Garam (talk) 10:15, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- That might be true, but it does not change the fact that you've been blocked on Korean wiki three times, for a total duration of more than a year. And I just saw that you've also been making tendentious arguments against multiple users on Talk:Chloe Kim and Talk:Korean fried chicken, the same way you did on Talk:Paektu Mountain. Are you trying to make trouble on English wiki after being kicked out of Korean wiki? -Zanhe (talk) 23:45, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
User:Pam-javelin reported by User:Thewolfchild (Result: Blocked 24 hours)
Page: HMS Ocean (L12) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Pam-javelin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [5]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 4.2 edit summary:
When an announcement by either the Royal Navy, British M.O.D or the British Government then it can not be confirmed and therefore the sale is "proposed" and not "confirmed".
- 4.1
- 3 edit summary:
Response to Wolfchild's constant maritime corrections without fact
(and with second minor edit)There has been no official announcement from the British Government who own the ship over the proposed sale
- 2 edit summary:
Unless you have official statement from the British Government then STOP REvERTING THE FACTS!
- 1 edit summary:
There has been NO official announcement of the sale by the Royal Navy The British Ministry of Defence or even the British Government - yet.
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [6]
This is their response to the 3RR warning: [7]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [8] After Pam-javelin was reverted, they were requested to discuss this on the article talk page, per WP:BRD, multiple times, (twice in edit summaries and again on their talk page) but they refused. I had to initiate the discussion. This is their response on the article talk page: [9] (same combative type response as on their talk page. This was posted after their 3rd revert. I replied, but instead of continuing the discussion, they instead reverted again, for a 4th time in 24 hours. )
Diff of 3RRNB notice on user's talk page: [10]
Comments:
The bulk of the content regarding the sale of HMS Ocean to Brazil and the supporting refs was not added by me, but cumulatively by several regular editors. Pam-javelin seems to insist that only an announcement from the UK gov’t will confirm the sale. After the second revert, I added an additional source confirming the sale, from the Brazilian, gov’t & military and another source confirming the sale by the UK Defense Journal. This is in addition to the sources already in place. I have encouraged Pam-javelin to read up on Primary vs. Secondary vs. Tertiary sourcing, but they continually revert and/or change the content regarding the sale with POV-ish and WP:HOWEVER type additions putting the sale into doubt, and making the article look clunky.
They have been continually difficult to deal with. A couple weeks ago I tried to discuss an issue with on their talk page, but my comments were deleted with the edit summary: Narrow minded Sceptic's rubbish removed
. This attitude makes it both difficult to try and have a civil dialogue with this user and, basically impossible to resolve issues. Thank you - theWOLFchild 19:35, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Still awaiting a response, and in the meantime, the disruption to this page by this editor continues - theWOLFchild 21:20, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- FYI - I have just edited the disputed content. While this editor continually edit-warred, removing sourced content, changing the status of this ship, making more than half-dozen or so edits in the past 24 hrs, insisting that it could only be reported as sold if and when the UK gov't confirmed it as such, it turns our that s simple Google search shows they already have. Numerous sources confirming the announcement of the sale by the UK gov't & MoD. I have updated the page, including four new refs. So, in short, all this disruption was for nothing. This editor was edit-warring and arguing, just for the sake of arguing as they clearly didn't bother to confirm their position. I know several admins are reading this, I just thought you all should know. - theWOLFchild 01:47, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Continued edit-warring
While this report sits here, this editor has continued to disrupt this article with more edit-warring. A long-tern issue with this editor is they insist on going to various ship articles, and removing any feminine pronouns in reference to the ship. They have been advised to stop this before, as per WP:SHE4SHIPS. While they used to put "too much 'she'" in their edit summaries, they now use deceptive edit summaries. I asked them to stop these changes and especially to stop abusing edit summaries on their talk page here. There are diffs of their behavior included in that edit. (By the way, that is the edit they removed as "narrow minded skeptics rubbish")
Now on this article, they're at it again;
- changes "she" to "Ocean" edit summary:
Repetition changed
- reverted by me edit summary:
i will again refer you to WP:SHE4SHIPS and again ask you to stop abusing the edit summary feature with deceptive summaries of your edits
- reverted by me edit summary:
- again changes "she" to "Ocean", and also a "her" to "the" edit summary:
Fixed grammar, The usual person that loves to add the word "she" to almost every sentence is back again - stop using repetitive wording. You know who you are!!!
- reverted by user Nick Thorne edit summary:
RV - misleading edit summary, no grammar error in referring to ships as "she".
- reverted by user Nick Thorne edit summary:
- again changes "she" to "Ocean", and also a "her" to "the" edit summary:
Reached" is better than "Managed" as Ocean was a brand new ship at that point so she should not a been "Managing" anything
- reverted by me edit summary:
stop edit-warring - again - why is it you cant take issues to the talk page?)
- reverted by me edit summary:
They had previously changed this very same content before;
- changes "she" to "Ocean", and also a "her" to "the" edit summary:
Keep article neutral and factual
- reverted by me edit summary:
per MOS:SHIPS & WP:SHE4SHIP
- reverted by me edit summary:
And on other parts of the same article;
- changes "she" to "the ship" edit summary:
Too much "she"
- changes "she" to "the ship" edit summary:
Too much use of the word "she".
It's clear they intend to continue edit-warring, using false and deceptive edit-summaries, refusing to discuss on any talk page, whether it be article or user, and will continue to disrupt this article, articles like it and the project with their WP:IDHT, WP:IDLI and WP:BATTLE behaviour. As long as this report sits here unaddressed. - theWOLFchild 16:37, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
2nd 4RR vio in 2 days, same article
- again changes "she" to "Ocean", and also a "her" to "the" edit summary:
Again, this ship was brand new on trials and the wording should at least be "achieved" instead of "managed" as that describes a ship struggling to reach her top speed
This is the 4th revert of the same content in about 8 hours. This is while there is an open 3RRNB report open, and after administrator NeilN warned them on their talk page to stop. They then continued with yet another change;
- changing "she" to "Ocean" edit summary:
Ocean would not have been moored at Greenwich - the correct terminology would have been "positioned" as she was on active military service during the 2012 Games.
...with yet another totally deceptive edit summary. How long will this be allowed to continue?
And, should I file a new report for the separate 4RR violation? - theWOLFchild 20:04, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours NeilN talk to me 20:25, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
User:Perky28 reported by User:Jytdog (Result: Being worked out on talk page)
Page: Near-death experience (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Perky28 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: diff
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: diff
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Near-death_experience#Computers
Comments:
User has an WP:APPARENTCOI and is aggressively editing to promote the publications/work of SL Thaler. Has not engaged on their talk page, and their comments at the article talk page are just abusive/personalized, which is typical of editors with advocacy/COI issues. (diff, diff, diff). The intention to keep trying to drive this into the article is very clear and I don't see them stopping to authentically work through the issues without a short block. Jytdog (talk) 20:04, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Defense:
Reversion 3 was simply the addition of relevant Wikipedia-compliant references and not an attempt to reinsert what Jytdog had rejected. To me, it seemed like a diplomatic compromise, but evidently not. I maintain that Jytdog is obliterating information extremely relevant to this article. His edits coincidentally follow after another editor's use of profanity against my contribution. With regard to COI, I know of Thaler's work and do object to Jytdog's obliteration of Wikipedia-compliant secondary sources quoting it.Perky28 (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Further, Jytdog is attacking credible references, for instance Scientific American and peer-reviewed papers published by Elsevier. Therefore comments such as, "not the kind of reference we look for" is very glib and indicates editorial bias.Perky28 (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- This filing has apparently been sufficient to stop the edit warring; we will see if we can work things out on the talk page. Jytdog (talk) 18:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Being worked out on talk page NeilN talk to me 00:16, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
User:Glucide reported by User:General Ization (Result:Blocked)
- Page
- Dominican Republic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Glucide (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 23:46, 16 February 2018 (UTC) "Undid revision 826061252 by General Ization (talk)"
- 23:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC) ""
- 23:33, 16 February 2018 (UTC) "Undid revision 826059921 by General Ization (talk)"
- 23:32, 16 February 2018 (UTC) "Restoring reference and referenced info"
- Consecutive edits made from 23:24, 16 February 2018 (UTC) to 23:29, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- 23:22, 16 February 2018 (UTC) ""
- 23:18, 16 February 2018 (UTC) ""
- 15:53, 16 February 2018 (UTC) ""
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 23:23, 16 February 2018 (UTC) "Caution: Removal of content, blanking on Dominican Republic. (TW)"
- 23:24, 16 February 2018 (UTC) "Caution: Addition of unsourced or improperly cited material on Dominican Republic. (TW)"
- 23:30, 16 February 2018 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Dominican Republic. (TW)"
- 23:31, 16 February 2018 (UTC) "Final warning: Addition of unsourced or improperly cited material on Domin. (TW)"
- 23:31, 16 February 2018 (UTC) "/* February 2018 */"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
- Pinging @C.Fred: and @BillCat: for any comment as they were among editors who reverted and were reverted during the EW. General Ization Talk 23:38, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Er, make that @BilCat. General Ization Talk 23:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- The user's edit history suggests an intent to edit this article. An edit-warring block might be the least of the sanctions that are justified here. —C.Fred (talk) 23:41, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
User:TheTruthiness reported by User:Newimpartial (Result: Page protected)
Page: Faith Goldy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: TheTruthiness (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: 01:06, 3 February 2018
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [11]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: All edits by TheTruthiness were to remove content from an established consensus version. Invitation to discuss on Talk here: [12] New source added to meet TheTruthiness' concerns here: [13]
Comments:
The Truthiness is engaged in an edit war, using supposed BLP concerns as the basis for singlehandedly fighting consensus, ignoring the talk page, and repeatedly removing sources, all with the aim of "white washing" Faith Goldy, best known for her sympathetic coverage of the white supremacists at Charlottesville. Newimpartial (talk) 13:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Page protected At the time the BLP problems were valid. See my talk page for more. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:23, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
User:ZH8000 reported by User:86.153.130.41 (Result: Declined No recent edits made to article)
Page: Lauterbrunnen–Mürren Mountain Railway (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: ZH8000 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- [14] (Original edit - the 'B' in WP:BRD
- [15] First revert
- [16] Second revert
- [17] Third Revert
- [18] Fourth revert introducing a reference that does not support the edit but supports the edit replaced.
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:: No link but user is clearly aware of edit warring rules because he posted a report linking myself and a French IP claiming violation of 3RR when none had actually taken place.
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [19]
Not a violation of 3RR (in 24 hours), but a slow motion edit war with four reverts from ZH8000. For the avoidance of doubt, the French IP has made two reverts, and I have made two reverts (but not from the same IP - dynamic IP addressing). A straight resumption of edit warring to introduce his preferred measurement once the page protection expired.
ZH8000 has posted no discussion on the talk page other than a claim that some non English railway authorities use an obscure measurement of gradient. Whilst that may be true, the measurement is both obsolete and obscure in the English speaking world as was pointed out. The measure is easily mistaken (as I initially did, and apparently the French IP - his edit summary of "(50% max gradient??)" strongly suggests this) to indicate a railway with a 50% gradient (i.e 60 degrees incline!). Also posted a claim that it is not the editor who was bold (B) that made the edit who had to obtain consensus having been reverted, but the editor who reverted the bold claim (the 'R').
The page was protected following the above erroneous 3RR report declaring a content dispute with a declaration to resolve t.he dispute. ZH8000 has just returned to the edit war without any attempt to satisfy the 'D' part of WP:BRD (i.e. will not communicate).
The reality is that a 'per thousand' measure of gradient is both obscure and obsolete in the English speaking world (and this is the en: Wikipedia). Percent gradient is used for roads, but railways are actually measure using the old 'one in ...' system, but % is understood. It should be noted that 'per thousand' is so obscure that virtually no English character set supports the symbol, and it cannot be found on any keyboard. A search on Google suggests that the symbol ('‰' - copied it) is deprecated because of its potential for confusion with '%' (it is very similar). 86.153.130.41 (talk) 17:03, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Comments:
The admins may consider the following:
- The first "original edit" (18 May 2017) is almost one year old! Since then, nobody objected the way to express the data, until now.
- There is an established and a so far non-objected concensus among many railway articles, at least each Swiss railways articles are used to use the per mill sign for gradients of cohersion driven railway lines and tunnels. E.g. List of spiral tunnels and tunnels on a curved alignment (generally applied, not only to Swiss lines), Gotthard line, Gotthard Base Tunnel, Gotthard Tunnel, Simplon Tunnel, Lötschberg Base Tunnel, Lötschberg Tunnel, etc ... just to name a very few.
- There are strong indications, that all undos by any IP was always done by the very same person, despite different IPs by "SRF France" (Special:Contributions/109.26.169.68) and "Vodafone UK"/"BT UK":
- The French IP did not contribute any comments anymore, since the English IP(s) stepped in (– until the English IP will have another business trip to France, probably).
- Both, the SRF France IP as well as the Vodafone UK IP already violated the three-revert-rule by themselves.
- Special:Contributions/85.255.235.164 got already blocked (85.255.235.0/24) by @Oshwah: Please check the obove mentioned IPs as well.
- Finally, let's go back to use our time for real work, please.
Thank you for your precious time! -- ZH8000 (talk) 21:12, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Declined No recent edits made to article ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:18, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: Is the 16th and 17th of February 2018 not recent then? 86.174.153.3 (talk) 12:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict)I have no comments to make concerning the relative merits of this case but would make the following observations.
The articles concerned are very specialist articles and likely to have a very low footfall, so it is not that surprising that an edit goes unchallenged for several months.
The concept of the '‰' symbol is more correctly referred to as the 'promille' (olde English) or the 'permille' (later usage, from the same derivation as 'percent' for the '%' symbol). Both the symbol and the word used to describe it are considered archaic in English usage and I have certainly never seen any paper use it other than one on the discussion of the symbol itself. The terms are so archaic that no (paper) English dictionary published in the last 70 years or so even includes either word (or any variation of spelling). Some on-line dictionaries do include it but they do not appear to agree on the spelling, and is some cases the meaning. I note that the Wikipedia article on the subject notes this as well.
I do not understand the obsession with using an archaic method of expressing gradient when the universally understood '%' gradient precisely expresses the point attempting to be conveyed.
I apologise if this is not the correct venue for this post (I am a relative newcomer), but this is where I found the discussion. Please feel free to move it to a more appropriate page if this is deemed appropriate. TheVicarsCat (talk) 12:58, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: Relevant part of above post copied to article talk page. 86.174.153.3 (talk) 15:35, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- It is useful that a discussion has been started on the article talk, at Talk:Lauterbrunnen–Mürren Mountain Railway#Gradient. In my opinion, anyone who makes a further edit to the article which either *adds* or *removes* the per mill notation for the grade is risking a block, until such time as a consensus is found on its use. EdJohnston (talk) 17:21, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps. Let us hope that your faith is not misplaced. It would remiss not to point out that the article was protected with a note that protection would be removed if due consensus was achieved on the talk page. The central plank of this complaint was that ZH8000 had resumed the edit war without making a single contribution to the actual discussion of the edit after the protection was applied. 86.174.153.3 (talk) 18:46, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- It is useful that a discussion has been started on the article talk, at Talk:Lauterbrunnen–Mürren Mountain Railway#Gradient. In my opinion, anyone who makes a further edit to the article which either *adds* or *removes* the per mill notation for the grade is risking a block, until such time as a consensus is found on its use. EdJohnston (talk) 17:21, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
User:91.148.90.138 reported by User:Surtsicna (Result: Both editors blocked for a period of 36 hours)
Page: Aleksa Šantić (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 91.148.90.138 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [20]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [30]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [31]
Comments:
The user is refusing to reply on both his/her talk page and on the article talk page. He/she is obviously aware of how Wikipedia works (being able to cite sources using proper templates) but does not care to cooperate or acknowledge guidelines when presented with them. He/she also refuses to acknowledge the talk page consensus, for the most bizarre of all reasons, and refuses to use any talk page for any purpose. For what it's worth, this is a classic example of disruptive editing motivated by ethnic nationalism. Surtsicna (talk) 17:23, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
My kind requests that the IP user use the talk page[32][33][34][35] and respond to my comments there[36] have been duly noted but blankly refused[37]. The audacity is astonishing. Surtsicna (talk) 18:09, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Both editors blocked – for a period of 36 hours Vanjagenije (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- (univolved user) Vanjagenije, could you please explain why Surtsicna was blocked in this case? --Marbe166 (talk) 19:00, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Marbe166: Becaouse of making 10 identical reverts at Aleksa Šantić in the time span of ~40 minutes. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:02, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
User:Alhanathalas reported by User:General Ization (Result: blocked)
- Page
- Orhan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Alhanathalas (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 21:26, 17 February 2018 (UTC) "you can read the books from Halil İnalcık, there aren't as many resources in english when it comes to early ottoman empire."
- 21:16, 17 February 2018 (UTC) "Educate yourself. Sufi islam and Anatolian Alevism are not the same and Alevism is regarded a Sect."
- Consecutive edits made from 18:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC) to 18:20, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- 18:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC) "Undid revision 801133382 by باسم (talk)"
- 18:20, 17 February 2018 (UTC) "ottoman sultans up until Selim I were alevis."
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 21:27, 17 February 2018 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Orhan. (TW)"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
funny how this guy changes history and i'm the guy who is being under the radar. as told before, there are not many resources on this subject in English, just ask any trained turkish historian and he'll tell you the facts, oh and this guy who is spreading lies is from lebanon, so chances are he does not know turkish. cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alhanathalas (talk • contribs) 21:33, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
This is only an example of the simultaneous edit wars being conducted by this editor. See the following articles:
General Ization Talk 21:38, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 31 hours —C.Fred (talk) 21:36, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
User:Cherkash reported by User:Joseph2302 (Result: No violation)
- Page
- 2018 FIA Formula One World Championship (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Cherkash (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 13:07, 18 February 2018 (UTC) "restored an unexplained removal of a passage supported by cited reference"
- 13:00, 18 February 2018 (UTC) "Undid revision 826319155 by Joseph2302 (talk) if it's the date formatting you care about it, then only change that!"
- 12:19, 18 February 2018 (UTC) "undid the last 2 edits: if you feel it's vague, then please read the reference and feel free to clarify further based on the information there"
- 09:43, 18 February 2018 (UTC) "/* Calendar changes */ added the reason for moving Russian GP"
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 13:03, 18 February 2018 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on 2018 FIA Formula One World Championship. (TW)"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- 13:06, 18 February 2018 (UTC) "/* Russia move */ reply"
- Comments:
Editor adding and reverting back in changes against current talkpage consensus, and violation of MOS:DATE. This user needs to stop reverting and continue talking on talkpage. Instead they're using a questionable reference to insert rubbish text to the article Joseph2302 (talk) 13:11, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds like a nonsensical reporting by Joseph2302: in my original edit, I've added a clearly sourced statement. I've then reverted unexplained deletions of the same: the editors deleting the passage, "Prisonermonkeys" and "Joseph2302", didn't bother to state their reasons in their respective edit summaries – so it clearly looked to me like either vandalism or promoting of their own viewpoints in contradiction of the cited reliable source. In addition, neither of the two had bothered to even mention an ongoing discussion on the subject on the article's talk page (of which I was unaware until I saw the link above). So I would say this nomination is totally bogus, aimed at mostly promoting a specific viewpoint, and suppressing any dissent. cherkash (talk) 15:40, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- 4 reverts in a short period, and deliberately ignoring a talkpage discussion. Source isn't necessarily reliable, which is exactly what we're trying to gain a consensus on. Which is why your mindless reverting is disruptive. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:52, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- You should provide the reason why the source isn't necessarily reliable and provide a more reliable source that refute the statement made by TASS. Other way it is just WP:DONTLIKEIT. Corvus tristis (talk) 17:03, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Reason is explained in talkpage discussion. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:28, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- What is truly disruptive, Joseph2302 – is your mindless harassing me here: as I stated above, all my edits were done in good faith, and with cited reliable reference; so it was you along with Prisonermonkeys who initiated the "edit warring" and continued to engage in it without any reasonable explanation. It's your aggressive actions that are in bad faith here, not mine. You could simply leave a reasonable edit summary at least once (which you didn't ever do) – there was no mention of your reasons for your own reverts, nor of the allegedly ongoing discussion on the Talk page. All you did was "revert & report" – whereas you were the one aggressively reverting, not me. cherkash (talk) 20:36, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Reason is explained in talkpage discussion. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:28, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- You should provide the reason why the source isn't necessarily reliable and provide a more reliable source that refute the statement made by TASS. Other way it is just WP:DONTLIKEIT. Corvus tristis (talk) 17:03, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Result: All parties warned. Nobody broke 3RR yet, but if there are any more reverts some blocks are likely. EdJohnston (talk) 03:22, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
User:Dsteakley reported by User:Favonian (Result: )
Page: Nazi Party (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Dsteakley (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: Special:PermaLink/826304597
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Special:Diff/826377106
- Special:Diff/826380829
- Special:Diff/826381463
- Special:Diff/826382166
- Special:Diff/826384822
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Special:Diff/826382126
Comments:
- They have been reverted by many different people. They have been told to read the FAQ. Nothing seems to be getting through. I feel sorry for anybody who has been duped into pushing the line they are pushing, as they are often only unwitting stooges of the real propagandists seeking to change history. Nonetheless, this is highly disruptive to a very high importance article, and potentially damaging to the reputation of Wikipedia, so I would suggest a short block. Nothing too drastic at first. Maybe just long enough for them to go to a library, check out a reputable history book, and see what it actually says about the Nazis. --DanielRigal (talk) 20:46, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Editor has started using the talk page and I've asked them to stop reverting. [38] Holding a bit to see how they respond. --NeilN talk to me 20:56, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
User:Wkretz86 reported by User:Calton (Result: Blocked 48 hours)
Page: Hate group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Wkretz86 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and probable logged-out 108.193.192.159 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
Previous version reverted to: [39]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Initial edit-warring
- [40] 03:49, February 6, 2018 Initial attempt to add ADL as a hate group.
- [41] 04:13, February 6, 2018 (Attemping to make page factual, citing sources 1. (https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/29/anti-defamation-league-cited-for-backing-genocide/) and 2. (http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article197386094.html
- [42] 04:45, February 11, 2018 (Added content)
- Most recent edit-warring
- [43] 01:37, February 19, 2018 (Fixed misleading information about a hate group pretending to fight against them.
- [44] 01:44, February 19, 2018 (Fixed bias)
- [45] 01:51, February 19, 2018 (Fixed bias)
- [46] 01:57, February 19, 2018, by 108.193.192.159 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (Unbiased information)
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
- Blocked – for a period of 48 hours NeilN talk to me 06:22, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
User:EtienneDolet reported by User:Seraphim System (Result: )
Page: Turkish military operation in Afrin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: EtienneDolet (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [49]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [52]
Comments:
This article is under a 1RR restriction WP:GS/SCW. Etienne's first revert is part of a contintious series of edits that begins at 20:06. There are two intervening edits (20:46 and 21:27). Etienne resumes editing at 21:54 and replaces a Turkish news source Hurriyet with Reuters. The edit summary is Hurriyet is still not reliable due to strict “patriotic” media regulations in Turkey today
- there is an open discussion about this linked above - there is currently no consensus for Etienne's position, with a majority of editors currently opposed. It was reverted here by Wickfox [53]. Seraphim System (talk) 06:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- The link to the talk discussion is here Talk:Turkish_military_operation_in_Afrin#Reliability. Due to the nature of the 1RR violation - a blatant disregard of an open consensus discussion - and the nature of the dispute supported by comments from numerous editors, I am only reporting because I think further disruptive editing is a practical certainty without some kind of intervention. Seraphim System (talk) 06:53, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- How is this a revert? You'll have to elaborate with evidence how such a simple copy-edit is a restoration to which previous version of the article. It's a simple edit that merely replaces one source with one that is more reliable. I also want to add that this report appears highly reminiscent of WP:BATTLEGROUND by a user who is currently under a month long 1RR restriction ([54]) as a result of a report I filed a couple of weeks ago. Étienne Dolet (talk) 07:27, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- And just to be clear, the majority of users are not opposed to the fact that Turkish news outlets, under heavy regulations by Erdogan's government, are partial when it comes to sensitive matters like war crimes. On my count, there are several veteran third-party users ([55][56]) that have called that into question. There's no doubt in my mind that any user would rather have a neutral RS like Reuters instead of pro-Turkish/pro-Kurdish sources. But this matter shouldn't be discussed at WP:3RRN. Étienne Dolet (talk) 07:27, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Etienne's continuing to insist that his edits aren't reverts or are supported by consensus when they aren't is another reason I think the disruption on the article is likely to escalate without intervention. A revert is anything that undoes another editor's work in whole or part (just as Wickfox's restoration of the original source would count as a revert and not a "simple edit".) This is a dispute involving multiple editors who have objected and Etienne continues to say he
merely
replaced one source with another.- Regarding the discussion, I largely agree with Calthinus
I suppose, more in line with GGT's point: self-censorship does not automatically imply that what they do report is unreliable.
this is very different from Etienne's position, and the content dispute shouldn't be an issue here, only the violaton of 1RR in the course of that content dispute. The fact that it was promptly reverted should be enough evidence that this was not only a revert, but a revert that was likely to escalate the dispute.Seraphim System (talk) 07:42, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Again, it was not a revert: neither in full, nor in part. In order for it to be considered a (semi-)revert, you need to show what previous version of the article it has been reverted to. However, no such version exists because all I did was replace a source with one that is more reliable. Étienne Dolet (talk) 07:51, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Regarding the discussion, I largely agree with Calthinus
- Etienne's continuing to insist that his edits aren't reverts or are supported by consensus when they aren't is another reason I think the disruption on the article is likely to escalate without intervention. A revert is anything that undoes another editor's work in whole or part (just as Wickfox's restoration of the original source would count as a revert and not a "simple edit".) This is a dispute involving multiple editors who have objected and Etienne continues to say he
User:TonyBallioni reported by User:張泰銘
Page: Gun control (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: TonyBallioni (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Evidence is in the page history of the pointed to page. Content on this page is not supposed to be removed without discussion. Thanks.