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New Panax article

An article for the genus Panax needs to be created, at least a stub. Panax redirects to Ginseng so some of the information in this article is superfluous to ginseng. I have no idea what this takes to do.User-duck (talk) 01:20, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Panax article created

I moved content to create the Panax article. Primarily, I moved the list of species which I had added previously to this article. I also moved information about the ginseng (the plant) to focus this article on ginseng (the product).User-duck (talk) 18:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removing content because of reference.

I do not intend to start a "talk" war. A statement along with its reference was removed from this article giving "commercial site; not a WP:RS source" as the reason.

Yes, the referenced article was from a commercial site. But that is not disallowed.

I consider the existence of the article ("The piece of work itself") as "proof" of the statement. I chose the particular article because it is in English and primarily explained the cultivation of Korean ginseng. And not about the vendor's products.

I did not implement an "external link". Wikipedia's external-link guidelines do not apply to citations to reliable sources within the body of the article.

If the supporting reference was unsuitable, the reference should have been removed (probably replaced with ^{[citation needed]}), not the statement.

I was not able to find a "non-commercial reliable source". I would appreciate another editor replacing my reference with one.

For these reasons, I am undoing the undo.

From Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources:

Definition of a source

The word "source" when citing sources on Wikipedia has three related meanings:

The piece of work itself (the article, book)
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Vendor and e-commerce sources

Although the content guidelines for external links prohibits linking to "Individual web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services," inline citations may be allowed to e-commerce pages such as that of a book on a bookseller's page or an album on its streaming-music page, in order to verify such things as titles and running times. Journalistic and academic sources are preferable, however, and e-commerce links should be replaced with non-commercial reliable sources if available. User-duck (talk) 22:22, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move whole article to "Panax ginseng"

All other languages have a single article on Ginseng under the heading "Panax ginseng". English should go there, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antepali (talk • contribs) 10:50, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support I agree. Ginseng by default is Panax ginseng and the American ginseng has its own article. --Guculen (talk) 12:32, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support I agree; but, and this is a big but, this article needs to be rigorously tidied up before any move. If it cannot be tidied up, it should simply be removed.Everlong Day (talk) 17:31, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]