Talk:Raymond T. Odierno

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Invite comments on minor formatting edit

In reviewing the article for pov, I made some minor edits - formatting dates and section headings per MOS and combining, via "name" in ref, a reused footnote. If there are any objections, I will revert myself and await a discussion and consensus. Normally a minor item, but as the article is under full protection, edits are to receive consensus. — ERcheck (talk) 00:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Made an addition to the command chard. Gen O took over JFCOM on 25 October. Ceremony will talk place 29 October. All sources are internal, I work at Joint Forces Command. Media will be in attendance at the AOC (assumption of command), however he has been the commander since 25 October.--137.246.207.200 (talk) 19:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

how old is he

when was he born —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.77.53 (talk • contribs) 17:15, November 11, 2008

one small problem

I respectfully disagree with the conclusion made in the paragraph titled "The results of the Surge", starting with "...A more qualified assessment is advanced, however, by Michael Busch of CUNY in this review of 'The Gamble' by Tom Ricks..."

1. It has nothing to do with the subject of the paragraph and is only very loosely connected to the article as a whole.

2. The statement is not an assessment based on evidence, but an assertion based on a POV.

3. I am afraid that the qualifications of the quoted author to make such an "assessment" are open to a respectful debate.

I have therefore attempted to make a small correction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeliasko (talk • contribs) 09:25, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Army Chief of Staff

Odierno will be the 38th Army Chief of Staff. Dempsey will move up to Chairman of JCS when Mullen retires. Jigen III (talk) 13:08, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

article in CFR journal

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137423/raymond-t-odierno/the-us-army-in-a-time-of-transition

Can someone confirm this quotation, please?

" Where appropriate we will also dedicate active-duty forces, especially those with niche skills and equipment, to provide civilian officials with a robust set of reliable and rapid response options. "

The troubling quotation is cited at http://worldobserveronline.com/2012/06/08/cfr-u-s-army-chief-of-staff-use-army-for-domestic-enforcement/

Here is a quote from today's BBC on a bus incident on a highway:

"The Ministry of Defence confirmed military personnel were assisting police, at their request, under routine procedure." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-18719962

Such a report simply would not occur in the USA as a matter of law as no such "routine" is legal.

G. Robert Shiplett 02:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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Awards

I know the general was awarded at least one award not listed at his retirement ceremony (I watched his retirement ceremony). I can't find a source however that mentions the awards (other than the CSPAN video of his retirement ceremony). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:48F8:3024:92E:313E:7DE0:D739:9ABD (talk) 18:22, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Raymond T. Odierno/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

There is something weird about this article. I am not allowed to edit the article to add that Ray Odierno is responsible for 80 strong US troops to raid a Turkish military unit of 11 men, in a most disgraceful way, approaching the Turks pretending to be their allies, then capturing them.

This story and that the Americans had to apologize afterwards is recorded in another Wikipedia article as the "hood event".

Why is this comedy?

78.169.153.91 (talk) 21:54, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 21:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 03:59, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

BLP

This article has maintenance tags dating as early as 2015 and several sections that have no references at all. The fact that they have remained contested for so long is not a good sign. If not addressed soon, I'm going to do a pass on the article and remove any contested material in accordance with WP:BLP. Mkdw ^talk 05:21, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]