Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tri-Valley Community Television

Tri-Valley Community Television

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Wasn't sure to bring this to AfD or not. The argument to keep is that the tv channel serves several large towns. However, I can't seem to find much independent coverage in reliable sources to pass WP:GNG. Most of the coverage I'm finding is routine stuff in the local newspaper like "you can watch tonight's high school basketball game on TV30", nothing indepth. The article right now is completely unsourced, so that doesn't help either. Rusf10 (talk) 01:51, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 04:56, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 04:56, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 04:56, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. WP:BCAST says that "Because of the public interest served, most television stations that produce original content should be presumed notable for Wikipedia purposes." This station definitely produces original coverage, even after the cuts discussed in the press articles. There's a decent amount of local press coverage of the station (see, for instance, [1]) but as Rusf10 points out, it's very local and much of it is run-of-the-mill. Fiachra10003 (talk) 17:45, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - May not meet WP:GNG but WP:BCAST is more forgiving and subject appears to meet requirements of first and/or second-to-last WP:BCAST bullet points due to original content produced and large population served. ~Kvng (talk) 18:44, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The thing with WP:BCAST is its not actually a guideline. However, the first bullet point deal with over-the-air broadcast stations, so that is inapplicable here. Depending on how you read the second to last bullet point it may meet it, but like I said its not actually a guideline, so it really should have to meet WP:GNG--Rusf10 (talk) 19:15, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So sorry, but WP:BCAST actually is a guideline - it's not an essay. The long-form link is Wikipedia:Notability_(media)#Broadcast_media. Fiachra10003 (talk) 19:34, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Fiachra10003:From the top of that page "This is an explanatory supplement to the Wikipedia:Notability guideline. It is intended to make up for a deficiency considered overly detailed for inclusion in the page(s) it supplements. This page is not one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community."

WP:OUTCOMES is also not a policy or guideline. These things are nevertheless useful for recording consensus to help avoid repeating the same deletion arguments too frequently. ~Kvng (talk) 22:05, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying to completely ignore WP:BCAST, I'm just trying to put it in context.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:04, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]