Talk:William J. Seymour

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Numerous William Seymours

It appears there are a number of Wikipedia articles about guys named William Seymour. There's this one (about the African American minister, as of 28 April 2006), plus:

William H. Seymour

William K. Seymour

William Seymour, 2nd Duke of Somerset

William Seymour, 3rd Duke of Somerset, and even a

William Seymour Tyler

So it seems to me that the William Seymour page should be a disambiguation page, which would entail renaming (moving) this article about the African American minister. Assuming that were to happen, is there an article name that would be preferred by the editors who have been creating the present article? William Joseph Seymour? William J. Seymour? William Seymour (minister)? -- Muffuletta 23:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 07:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

William Seymour → William J. Seymour … Rationale: to allow William Seymour to become a disambig page -- Muffuletta 17:50, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Support per above post -- Muffuletta 19:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above post -- David L Rattigan 19:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support since some of these sources do show this man as William J. Also the last external link should be moved to the dab page; that looks like somebody elze. Septentrionalis 22:18, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Note that William Kean Seymour is spelled out now; apparently following his own usage. Septentrionalis 22:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So noted; I changed the link in my tentative dab list. Also, good catch on that last external link. I even reformatted the link without checking it out. -- Muffuletta 13:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Seymour's Ministry

The existing article on WJ Seymour seems too heavy on racism and too light on his ministry. Seymour overcame racism to start a world-changing revival. There are quite a few good books on his life. I'm ordering some of the most respected, and hope to get started on the article soon. Misterniceguy (talk) 00:50, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I finished the rewrite of his early life and career. It'll probably need some proofing and editing, which I'll do over the next few days. Any help is appreciated. I ordered a few more books, and will be going over the Azusa Street section next. Misterniceguy (talk) 01:01, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reference and notes

It might be a little cleaner if the {{reflist}} section was called Notes. The References section would only have full citations those that use the author and page citation style such as Borlase, AF, Robeck 2006, Espinosa, Robins 2010, and Synan. Regular cites would remain in article and appear under notes along with the the author and page citations. As it is, one has to scan the section to find Espinosa as they are out of order. It would be a challenge to make sure the full reference is the first mention. By the way, column sizes are automatic so (em=250) is no longer needed.

I haven't had time to carefully read the article fully but I am a little confused by the following reference:

Bartleman, Azusa Street, 47, 54. Is this the same as AF?

Regards, Fettlemap (talk) 17:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I left that in from the previous editor, but I check it out this weekend. Thanks for the help! DEvans (talk) 11:00, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what I found concerning the Bartleman reference: There are a number of books with the title Azusa Street by Frank Bartleman. They are compilations of the same thing, but the pages are different. I have three of those books and none of them match the reference. Since it would be a primary source anyway, I used the secondary source, Robeck. He makes the same point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misterniceguy (talk • contribs) 14:19, 6 April 2018 (UTC) Misterniceguy (talk) 14:27, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]